***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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That was only used for like the first 2-3 season and then discontinued as an alternate. I believe that's when they replaced the alternate as the red jersey.
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All of the brick red jerseys are trash.

The star doesn't match the cursive font. The cursive font and scheme has nothing to do with the Astros space theme. And worst of all the color red is so incredibly random.

I'm not sure WTF the point was with these uniforms but they're so incredibly bad no media material the Astros put out should show these uniforms. Any images or references to these unis should be removed from MMP. They should be removed from any team store and discontinued immediately. Anyone entering into MMP with merch from this scheme should be denied entry until they hand over the merch so it can be incinerated.

Just erase this entire uniform scheme from the history of this franchise.
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Frok said:

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If they're gonna put Bregman in a "brick era" jersey, I wish they would have used the black jersey. In my opinion it's the only jersey from that color set that actually looked pretty sharp. The all gray, no pinstripes might be my least favorite Astros uniform ever.



This is my least favorite

I love Bags but every time I see a picture of his goatee I just want to
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Apparently Cashman had a Bill Byrne moment and little Verlander roasts them.

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Farmer1906 said:

Apparently Cashman had a Bill Byrne moment and little Verlander roasts them.



Quote:

"I'm like, 'Well, you know, to be quite honest, Omar, the truth was in the end, we were four games short of a World Series appearance, but it felt like the way our fanbase reacted and the press that we got knocked out in the first round. So you can't really remember sometimes reality versus the perception, and the perception was we didn't do well. The reality was we had a hell of another run at it but, but fell short. But that's just the New York market."

4 games short of a world series ... LMFAO
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The rockets late 90s and early 2000s jerseys make the red brick and pinstripes look classic
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Kind of like saying Germany finished 2nd in WW2
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When I look back fondly at the 2022 ALCS, my favorite thing to remember is that Martin Maldonado's batting average was 223 points higher than Aaron Judge's over the four games.
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Cashman knows that he's stuck with the Judge-Cole-Stanton trio for several more years.

and that combo is just not good enough to get past the Astros in the postseason
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If I recall correctly we switched to those colors in the early 2000s because it was the same colors of Drayton McClane's trucking company
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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didn't they also try to pass off the brick red as a nod to the original color of Union Station or something like that?
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spadilly said:

didn't they also try to pass off the brick red as a nod to the original color of Union Station or something like that?
Yeah. All part of the train station/junction jack/train motif. I mean the train is neat and all, but imagine if we had kept the space theme instead. And we got Elon Musk involved. We could launch a Falcon Heavy or better yet a Starship when Yordan hits a WS game 6 bomb.

That's what I'm talkinbout.
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EastCoastAgNc said:




1,3,6,2,6,6
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If Lance is wearing the gold brim hat then we'd have a 1a and 1b

The blue with gold star and gold brim is my favorite Astro hat by a wide margin. It's a combo of the space motif and that it seems so quintessential 90s that make it awesome.
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The script inconsistencies on those 2000s jerseys always chapped me. "Q: Hey, guys, do we want cursive or noncursive? A: Yes." And Drayton totally picked the colors because he liked them. Especially the red jerseys. I did like the star logo back then, though. That's about it.
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ZIPS Standings Projections

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-2023-start-of-spring-zips-projected-standings-american-league/



They're sleeping on us... again.
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Yeah but they also have NYY at 89 wins. And Oakland at 72 wins. It's like the sim normalizes to the middle.

And the difference between 90 and 96 wins is random. Flip 3 losses.

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Bad Poster said:

EastCoastAgNc said:




1,3,6,2,6,6



How dare you sir. The navy and gold were gorgeous
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Farmer1906 said:

ZIPS Standings Projections

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-2023-start-of-spring-zips-projected-standings-american-league/


It may seem like ZiPS gives the Astros the same projection every year, but a big part of that is that the computer sees some combination of the Mariners, Angels, and Rangers inching closer each year.

Mariners - 5 games back in 2021, 16 games back in 2022
Angels - 18 games back in 2021, 33 games back in 2022
A's - 9 games back in 2021, 46 games back in 2022
Rangers - 35 games back in 2021, 38 games back in 2022

Inching closer!
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Germans....Moon
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Germans....Moon
Watch the video...
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Ag_07 said:

This was covered in the Netflix doc Fastball which is a great watch for any one who hasn't watched.

But because the ball stays on plane and doesn't succumb to gravity and drop it gives the illusion of rising.
Oh gosh! If any of you haven't watched this do it now or you're cheating yourself. It's not on Netflix now but I found it on Prime for free. I found it impossible to listen to Joe Morgan and Hank Aaron talking and laughing and not be laughing with them.

So many treasures. The story behind Bob Gibson's Clint Eastman squint. The heartbreak of the Steve Dalkowski story. Verlander talking about the myth of the rising fastball.

The one thing that bugged me is at the first of the show they showed how Walter Johnson's fastball was measured at 83 mph but didn't point out the obvious flaw in the method they used which would have resulted in a false low bias. But then at the end they had maybe the best part where the physicist explained that and made adjustments to get the old readings comparable to today's. Although in the Big Train's case he didn't acknowledge that to start the timer the ball had to break thin wires which definitely impacted the ball's velocity.

And they showed Billy Wagner throwing a pretty good visball himself. Really entertaining.

Watch it.
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Farmer1906 said:

ZIPS Standings Projections

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-2023-start-of-spring-zips-projected-standings-american-league/



They're sleeping on us... again.
THey have us with the best record in the AL>
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And winning 16 fewer games than 2022.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:

Apparently Cashman had a Bill Byrne moment and little Verlander roasts them.



Quote:

"I'm like, 'Well, you know, to be quite honest, Omar, the truth was in the end, we were four games short of a World Series appearance, but it felt like the way our fanbase reacted and the press that we got knocked out in the first round. So you can't really remember sometimes reality versus the perception, and the perception was we didn't do well. The reality was we had a hell of another run at it but, but fell short. But that's just the New York market."

4 games short of a world series ... LMFAO
Rangers should immediately update their marketing material:

We were 13 games short of a World Series title baby!!!!
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Is this saying only 8 spring training games will be televised...that seems really low
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Don Kessinger's grandson got #81!

Love it - and appropriate!
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NM
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Is this saying only 8 spring training games will be televised...that seems really low

Only that many will be televised on attsw. That's about how many they did last year. Usually you can find more via the away broadcast
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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Is this saying only 8 spring training games will be televised...that seems really low

Fine by me and honestly that's about 6 too many. IMO ST baseball is awful to watch.

It holds my attention for all of about 2-3 innings then enter all the guys I've never heard of or never will see again and the commentary goes off the rails. Throw in the fact that you can't really take away much from the results it just becomes brutal.
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Counterpoint: It's great background noise during the work day
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