***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 10:10a, 1/30/23
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Farmer1906 said:
Diaz and Hensley could do it. Diaz and Hensley have played first base 48 & 71 games in the minors. Diaz played it for often in 2022 tho. I do find it unlikely that Diaz is the primary back up at C. I could see Lee, but I don't think the org believes in Diaz behind the dish.
I'll be surprised if Diaz or Lee is our everyday catcher in 2024.

Agree that Lee is probably more likely to ultimately evolve into an "everyday" catcher than Diaz, simply because I think we envision Diaz playing multiple positions. And with Diaz, the more he mashes, the less time he'll spend catching IMO. Like if Diaz breaks through this year, I could see us not retaining Brantley next year and Yordan/Abreu/Diaz is our LF/DH/1B in some order.

The problem is that the 2024 free agent catcher market is very stinky. Grandal seems like our "type" but he was awful last year. D'Arnaud, Zunino, Gomes and a few more unexciting ideas. I don't think it's out of the question Maldy could be back in 24. Could see us making a trade too.
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In reply to Deluxe • 10:54a, 1/30/23
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Maldy will be 37 in Aug this year. In the last two seasons he's been in the bottom few % of the league in key offensive categories. He's beloved in the clubhouse, by the pitching staff, and is a leader on this team. I don't want him playing for us in 2024 and I don't want him to be the primary catcher int he 2nd half of 2023. Retire and join the coaching staff.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:04a, 1/30/23
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Barring injury, I don't think there's any question he'll be catching our key games down the stretch and almost every playoff game.

I'm with you in that I wouldn't put my money on him being back in 2024. I just wouldn't rule it out.
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In reply to Deluxe • 11:41a, 1/30/23
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I was going to say, there is a line where he's just too bad that he cannot be put in the lineup every day. But then I remembered how bad he started last year. .142 / .211 / .261 / .472 (OPS) thru his first 149 PA in mid-June. We just need Lee to step up and show he can play at an average level on O and D.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:46a, 1/30/23
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Maldy will be 37 in Aug this year. In the last two seasons he's been in the bottom few % of the league in key offensive categories. He's beloved in the clubhouse, by the pitching staff, and is a leader on this team. I don't want him playing for us in 2024 and I don't want him to be the primary catcher int he 2nd half of 2023. Retire and join the coaching staff.
how about espada for manager, maldy for bench coach?
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In reply to 07ag • 11:47a, 1/30/23
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Farmer1906 said:
Maldy will be 37 in Aug this year. In the last two seasons he's been in the bottom few % of the league in key offensive categories. He's beloved in the clubhouse, by the pitching staff, and is a leader on this team. I don't want him playing for us in 2024 and I don't want him to be the primary catcher int he 2nd half of 2023. Retire and join the coaching staff.
how about espada for manager, maldy for bench coach?


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12:29p, 1/30/23
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In reply to 07ag • 12:38p, 1/30/23
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Farmer1906 said:
Maldy will be 37 in Aug this year. In the last two seasons he's been in the bottom few % of the league in key offensive categories. He's beloved in the clubhouse, by the pitching staff, and is a leader on this team. I don't want him playing for us in 2024 and I don't want him to be the primary catcher int he 2nd half of 2023. Retire and join the coaching staff.
how about espada for manager, maldy for bench coach?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:41p, 1/30/23
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No thanks on Pinder. He can play many positions, but he's not particularly good at any of them. He hits lefties at an okay level, but still below Dubon. Give me the rookies and let's see what we have. Hensley is 27 now. He looked great in an entire season of AAA, his short stint in the bigs, or even in major moments in the postseason. I would wager he plays a better 3B, SS, 2B, & 1B than Pinder too. Lee & Diaz are the only catchers on the 40-man not named Maldonado so one or both need to be up.

We're only carrying 13 positions players, right?
C - Maldy
1B - Abreu
2B - Altuve
3B - Bregman
SS - Pena
LF - Brantley
CF - McCormick
RF - Tucker
DH - Alvarez
Bench: Back Up Catcher (Lee, Diaz, or new addition), Dubon, & just 1 more (Meyers, Hensley, Diaz, or Matijevic)


Agree, and that bottom of the 9th at bat Hensley put together vs the mariners in the playoffs was a thing of beauty. I would roll with him and see what he can do.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:48p, 1/30/23
"Retire and join the coaching staff."

I like this idea regarding maldy
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1:42p, 1/30/23
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In looking more closely at the 2024 catcher free agent class, I'm intrigued with Zunino and Grandal. Both have the veteran staff management chops to take the reins from Maldy.

If the Indians or White Sox are struggling around the deadline, I'm guessing one (or both) will be inexpensively available given that their contracts are expiring. It would be nice to snag one, start the Maldy transition process for the remainder of this year, and then re-sign in the offseason. Doubt we'd need to make more than a 1-2 year commitment to re-sign.

Both guys struggled in 2022, but injuries/recovery were a big reason why.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:47p, 1/30/23
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Farmer1906 said:
Maldy will be 37 in Aug this year. In the last two seasons he's been in the bottom few % of the league in key offensive categories. He's beloved in the clubhouse, by the pitching staff, and is a leader on this team. I don't want him playing for us in 2024 and I don't want him to be the primary catcher int he 2nd half of 2023. Retire and join the coaching staff.
I'm just poking fun, but is a post I would love to see you say to Maldy's face.

"Hey Maldy! Congrats on the ring. You're beloved in the clubhouse, by the pitching staff, you're a leader. But hey, I don't want you on the team next year. And I don't really want you starting after the All-Star break. Be a pal and retire, OK?"
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In reply to Deluxe • 1:52p, 1/30/23
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His power completely vanished last year. He was a top 5 catcher for years and then fell off a cliff. He's always had a "noodle" arm tho.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:59p, 1/30/23
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His power completely vanished last year. He was a top 5 catcher for years and then fell off a cliff. He's always had a "noodle" arm tho.
I assume you're talking about Grandal? Apparently he had surgery last offseason and never fully recovered. We'll see if he bounces back this year.

I'm not that concerned about his offense though. Priority #1 is to find a savvy vet that our organization trusts to manage our staff of young horses. If he hits too, great.

FWIW, I like the Zunino fit better than Grandal.
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2:18p, 1/30/23
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 2:21p, 1/30/23
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Farmer1906 said:
Maldy will be 37 in Aug this year. In the last two seasons he's been in the bottom few % of the league in key offensive categories. He's beloved in the clubhouse, by the pitching staff, and is a leader on this team. I don't want him playing for us in 2024 and I don't want him to be the primary catcher int he 2nd half of 2023. Retire and join the coaching staff.
I'm just poking fun, but is a post I would love to see you say to Maldy's face.

"Hey Maldy! Congrats on the ring. You're beloved in the clubhouse, by the pitching staff, you're a leader. But hey, I don't want you on the team next year. And I don't really want you starting after the All-Star break. Be a pal and retire, OK?"


I'll be interested in what Dana Brown thinks about it all. We'll see if he makes a move at catcher before now and the deadline and again in the offseason when Maldy's contract is up. The new GM has no loyalty towards Maldonado, but if we judge him based on the moves from ATL, he definitely values more than offense from the catcher position based on moving on from Contreras.
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2:31p, 1/30/23
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Reading all the catcher scenarios I wish we had ponied up and given Vasquez the same deal he got with Twins - 3 years for $30M.
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2:34p, 1/30/23
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Wonder if Brown might poke around his old club and find out if D'Arnaud is available given that they just picked up Murphy. My guess is the Braves will keep both and DH Murphy when he's not catching, but I'd take D'Arnaud to split with Maldy in 2023. He's got a club option for 2024.
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2:37p, 1/30/23
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I say this as a fan of his… What an odd choice. He broke out a little this year… but is he even a top 50 player?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:54p, 1/30/23
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Yeah, that's a strange one.
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3:00p, 1/30/23
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We better watch out or we're going to get out of LIV for TED.

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 3:01p, 1/30/23
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Do you target a "top 50" player outside of Judge, Trout, Ohtani, etc....

Or someone that maybe resonates with kids who aren't big baseball fans? This is just me wondering, I have no idea of the appeal this guy (or others) has outside the direct MLB market.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 3:01p, 1/30/23
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He's wearing gloves
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 3:42p, 1/30/23
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4:42p, 1/30/23
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TED > Yordan
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:46p, 1/30/23
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This is pretty cool from the guy that did the photoshop for this
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 5:16p, 1/30/23
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TED > Yordan


Pinstripes are generally a great look but tequila sunrise, all day erry day.

And Tucker <<<<<<<<<Yordan
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 5:32p, 1/30/23
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It's like Peyton Hillis getting the Madden cover
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 5:57p, 1/30/23
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TED > Yordan
Tequila Sunrise. Burn that damn abomination Yordan is wearing. And I say that owning one of those things.
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In reply to Deluxe • 6:08p, 1/30/23
I do suspect catcher will be a priority for Dana.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 6:31p, 1/30/23
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Hahahahahahaha



any "current" player that has time to write a book is probably a loser and not contributing lol
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In reply to TarponChaser • 7:23p, 1/30/23
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Strange thing is that I couldn't stand those rainbow uniforms back when the Astros wore them all the time. They didn't look like real baseball uniforms to me. But over the years they've grown on me and I was kind of hoping they would break them out against Philly in game 6.

And +++ to all the comments on Joe Kelly. I might be embarrassed to admit how much I would pay to see him and CC get after it in a closed ring.
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7:26p, 1/30/23
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The Seattle Moral Victories
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7:45p, 1/30/23
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Tags has a bunch of videos up from the golf tourney.

Brantley sounds hungry and very happy with the squad.



TED sure doesn't sound like a guy wanting an extension.



Lance is about 100x more polished than Tucker when talking to the media.



Rook ain't a rook anymore.




Is Jeter worried we're going to take some shine away from his Yankee runs?



Co-GM B****

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7:58p, 1/30/23
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The Reds stocking up for the trade deadline.
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