***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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This is gonna be a painful pill to swallow...

...but I'd rather have Joey Gallo on the Astros than Trevor Bauer
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I'd be okay with getting Bauer. With all the **** he's dealt with last couple years I feel like he'd tone done his BS in the clubhouse knowing he's on his last chance basically in MLB. Hell, the league already hates us. Might as well sign him and he could be the teams Dennis Rodman. He could become the fall guy.

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Besides the chase for 92.5 wins (my Vegas bet) and back to back titles, more stuff to look forward to in 2023

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Except for SBs and barring an extended stay on the IR, all are easily achievable.
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redline248 said:

This is gonna be a painful pill to swallow...

...but I'd rather have Joey Gallo on the Astros than Trevor Bauer
Nope, I'd rather have a pitcher with high upside than a 3 true outcome dude (who seems like a d-bag). Yes, there is a ton of baggage with Bauer but who cares, everyone hates us anyone, EMBRACE IT!!!!
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Beating up multiple women is way more than "kinda seems like a dbag". It's all moot because Crane and the players would never sign off on it.
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Bauer is vile, but no more than Kobe Bryant.

People are funny with their sense of morality.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Beating up multiple women is way more than "kinda seems like a dbag". It's all moot because Crane and the players would never sign off on it.
The dbag comment was about Gallo.
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Harry Dunne said:

Bauer is vile, but no more than Kobe Bryant.

People are funny with their sense of morality.
The difference is Kobe was well thought of by everyone before this happened. Bauer was being a jerk on multiple different levels and this added a ton of fuel to the fire.

Whether right or wrong I wonder if many players don't want him on the team because of his actions are just like the cheating scandal in that it shines a light to what players are doing in private. I doubt that he is the only one doing crazy freaky stuff like this.
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I agree. Well thought of before and after. I think Bauer was considered to be a diamond level dewsh before (and after). Kobe also handled his situation professionally. Had a lawyer write up a well-worded and genuine-sounding apology. He of course continued to be the ultimate competitor and champion and who really knows but it seems like the event changed him. If not, having daughters certainly did.

But at the end of the day, Kobe raped a teenager. You can make a strong argument his stuff was worse than Bauer's.

And that did not stop him from continuing to play, recovering almost all of his endorsements, being almost universally beloved and most importantly having the chance to redeem himself.

For the record, I'd rather the Astros not sign Bauer. But I'd rather them not have signed him before all this, simply because he seems like a DB independent of all of this and would be hard to root for. But the dude can pitch and I'm rooting for him to learn and to change his life.
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Pretty much the day that The Show 23 comes out.
I don't know how you can trade away Peña and replace him with Carlos. Game or not.

I'm not sure how injuries work in The Show, but if you do this I hope Correa's ankle explodes on opening day.
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Harry Dunne said:

I agree. Well thought of before and after. I think Bauer was considered to be a diamond level dewsh before (and after). Kobe also handled his situation professionally. Had a lawyer write up a well-worded and genuine-sounding apology. He of course continued to be the ultimate competitor and champion and who really knows but it seems like the event changed him. If not, having daughters certainly did.

But at the end of the day, Kobe raped a teenager. You can make a strong argument his stuff was worse than Bauer's.

And that did not stop him from continuing to play, recovering almost all of his endorsements, being almost universally beloved and most importantly having the chance to redeem himself.

For the record, I'd rather the Astros not sign Bauer. But I'd rather them not have signed him before all this, simply because he seems like a DB independent of all of this and would be hard to root for. But the dude can pitch and I'm rooting for him to learn and to change his life.


IMO Bauer's inability to not go after the victims is what makes him toxic. WaPo had a decent article detailing the saga. He just comes out looking like a toxic, non-apologetic *******.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/12/22/trevor-bauer-appeal-decision-dodgers/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjQ2OTExNDQ5IiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY3Mjk0MzY2NywiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY3NDE1MzI2NywiaWF0IjoxNjcyOTQzNjY3LCJqdGkiOiI0Y2JmYjA2ZC01NzJiLTRjMzQtODA5OS04ZTBhMmZkMmE0NWIiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vc3BvcnRzLzIwMjIvMTIvMjIvdHJldm9yLWJhdWVyLWFwcGVhbC1kZWNpc2lvbi1kb2RnZXJzLyJ9.Ljy_gPWlzns_HhOuoRtpie5dR7e22B317RAJUhIcOc8
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I couldn't stand Tyler Bauer before all this. I don't know if it's true. If it is, he's despicable. If it's not, then I feel bad he was accused & punished (pocket book & playing time). But still can't stand him.
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This is obvious directed at NY, but it applies to most teams. Philly, Seattle, Arlington, LA, Boston, Cleveland, etc.

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He's a jackass, a hothead, a person with a really bad personal issue that is socially reprehensible and almost certainly was lying about using spider tack.

But if he can come back from a 1.5 year layoff with the same stuff he had he's going to make someone better. And depending on the team possibly change the playoff teams.

It's a tough place for a team to be in. Do you hold your nose and improve or hold the moral high stance and watch your competition improve?
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Vierling's last act as a Philly was seeing Yordan's moonshot first hand. Phillies get the Tigers closer.
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I wonder what Roger's conversations with his kids about roids sound like. Is it "don't do it its not worth it"…or, "its something you have to do to have a shot & here's how you do it without getting caught"?
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Harry Dunne said:

I wonder what Roger's conversations with his kids about roids sound like. Is it "don't do it its not worth it"…or, "its something you have to do to have a shot & here's how you do it without getting caught"?


"It's more effective to get the shot in big muscle groups. Remember to taper down well before the tests."
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"If you get caught, blame it on your mom"
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The Correa fiasco makes me smile. Dior ain't worth **** when it's damaged.
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Jet Black said:

The Correa fiasco makes me smile. Dior ain't worth **** when it's damaged.


If you're an Astro fan, I'll never understand this take.
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EastCoastAgNc said:




At least it's just a fan site and not the team this time.
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Ok I know this isn't Astros related but this is just too funny not to share
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Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:




At least it's just a fan site and not the team this time.


Went and read the comments on that IG post. Some funny **** there lol. Apparently nobody's pitching staff can come close to theirs. Our boys would even be in the rotation. We're doomed lol
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Weird that there is another "duo" ranking, but not much love for Framber/Javier.
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Bizarre to have Wheeler/Nola that high after we wrecked them. Not sure how you can say the Verlander/Scherzer combo isn't #1?.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


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EastCoastAgNc said:


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Farmer1906 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:




At least it's just a fan site and not the team this time.
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Farmer1906 said:

I couldn't stand Tyler Bauer before all this. I don't know if it's true. If it is, he's despicable. If it's not, then I feel bad he was accused & punished (pocket book & playing time). But still can't stand him.


On Bauer's best day he likes to consensually hit and choke women to get off.

There's going to be a not insignificant portion of the fan base that won't be OK with that, regardless of whether it's legal or how talented he is. Not worth it IMO.
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The dude who threw a beer at Ted Cruz during the world series parade was now charged, despite being initially arrested for ... squints... "Ass Assault"?
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Correa Wars Trilogy. Episode 3
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You might be joking but it's aggravated assault.
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