That burner account is pretty fascinating
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Yup. Guys like Abreu, Contraras, Conforto, etc are going to only require 1-3 years and 15-25 M per. We could add two and go from good to elite offense real quick.
Contreras has a QO attached so it would need to be a heck of a team friendly deal. He may be better off taking the QO and hitting free agency again next year.
Looking at the playoff ABs (
Altuve 62
Pena 61
Alvarez 61
Bregman 58
Tucker 57
Gurriel 50
McCormick 46
Maldonado 33
Diaz 23
Mancini 24
Vazquez 19
Hensley 9
Meyers 2
Gone, wRC+
Gurriel, 85
Diaz, 96
Mancini, 77
Vazquez, 67
Replace with 2 of these, career wRC+
Contreras, 118
Abreu, 133
Canha, 118 ***EDIT, REMOVE CANHA***
Bell, 116
Pederson, 118
Yes, please.
Altuve 62
Pena 61
Alvarez 61
Bregman 58
Tucker 57
Gurriel 50
McCormick 46
Maldonado 33
Diaz 23
Mancini 24
Vazquez 19
Hensley 9
Meyers 2
Gone, wRC+
Gurriel, 85
Diaz, 96
Mancini, 77
Vazquez, 67
Replace with 2 of these, career wRC+
Contreras, 118
Abreu, 133
Canha, 118 ***EDIT, REMOVE CANHA***
Bell, 116
Pederson, 118
Yes, please.
Canha is under contract with the Mets.
Club option that I haven't seen news of being picked up yet.
Edit to say ***** You're right. I read the club option as being 2023, it's 2024.
Edit to say ***** You're right. I read the club option as being 2023, it's 2024.
Some interesting info from Schwab.
Regarding Contreras, it wasn't just the ask for Urquidy, there were worries about his personality in the clubhouse. I'm not sure we are in on him.
https://michaelschwab.substack.com/p/welcome-post?r=1imdf&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Regarding Contreras, it wasn't just the ask for Urquidy, there were worries about his personality in the clubhouse. I'm not sure we are in on him.
https://michaelschwab.substack.com/p/welcome-post?r=1imdf&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
I think that was fear of him coming and being a part time player and not accepting his role
If we signed him at this point, he is your everyday starter and that wouldn't be an issue
If we signed him at this point, he is your everyday starter and that wouldn't be an issue
Some of the recent written pieces plus the Montero signing feel like some Crane PR
Click good, not great. Crane thinks he can replace good with better.
Doesn't sound unreasonable outside of one in the hand vs two in the bush wisdom.
Doesn't sound unreasonable outside of one in the hand vs two in the bush wisdom.
speaking of Contreras and the 2016 Cubs...
it seems like a bunch of players from that championship team have gone on to steal money from their next team or next contract. The reputation gained from winning the title exceeded the actual production. Almost like a curse.
Heyward, Bryant, Baez, Fowler, Chapman, Arrieta, et al (with 1 or 2 exceptions)
it seems like a bunch of players from that championship team have gone on to steal money from their next team or next contract. The reputation gained from winning the title exceeded the actual production. Almost like a curse.
Heyward, Bryant, Baez, Fowler, Chapman, Arrieta, et al (with 1 or 2 exceptions)
Schwarber is a complete stud
cone said:
Schwarber is a complete stud
As a dh. He's brutal in the field.
Source says Astros 1B coach Omar Lopez has an agreement to return to the coaching staff next season. It will be his 25th year in the organization. Our @Feinsand reported earlier today bench coach Joe Espada is back, too for 2023 on Dusty Baker’s staff.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) November 13, 2022
he made my a-hole pucker for a week straight
Jim Crane asked James Click if he wanted to bet his career on Jake Meyers, per people familiar with the matter.
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) November 13, 2022
Click said yes. https://t.co/DywJhs0SOK
bearkatag15 said:Jim Crane asked James Click if he wanted to bet his career on Jake Meyers, per people familiar with the matter.
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) November 13, 2022
Click said yes. https://t.co/DywJhs0SOK
WTF, that's kind of random. lol.
bearkatag15 said:Jim Crane asked James Click if he wanted to bet his career on Jake Meyers, per people familiar with the matter.
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) November 13, 2022
Click said yes. https://t.co/DywJhs0SOK
If that's what Crane thinks Click did wrong or he's holding Straw and Siri against him, well that's a bad sign. That smacks of Dusty.
Interesting to see a bit of how crane operates. On the Click side, it has to be frustrating to be told to make big moves then have one nixed at the deadline. Hard to operate with those mixed messages.
That said, click definitely screwed some things up. As GM you can explain why certain moves aren't advisable. However, it's the owner's money and you're his agent.
It seems to be they could have found middle ground if Click tried hard enough. Basically let Crane make big free agent and contract extension decisions and you run the minors along with filling the roster. That probably happens at a lot of places but Click didn't see it because TB never had the budget to pursue any big free agents.
That said, click definitely screwed some things up. As GM you can explain why certain moves aren't advisable. However, it's the owner's money and you're his agent.
It seems to be they could have found middle ground if Click tried hard enough. Basically let Crane make big free agent and contract extension decisions and you run the minors along with filling the roster. That probably happens at a lot of places but Click didn't see it because TB never had the budget to pursue any big free agents.
You have to read the article for context. Crane wanted Marte in CF. They basically had a deal and Click backed off against Crane's wishes. That's when crane asked if he wanted to bet his career on Meyers (whom Click loved and part of why he didn't want Marte).Mathguy64 said:bearkatag15 said:Jim Crane asked James Click if he wanted to bet his career on Jake Meyers, per people familiar with the matter.
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) November 13, 2022
Click said yes. https://t.co/DywJhs0SOK
If that's what Crane thinks Click did wrong or he's holding Straw and Siri against him, well that's a bad sign. That smacks of Dusty.
Imagine having Hendricks and Marte on this team. Have to believe we win it all last year
Marte would have been beautiful in our lineup
Haven't read the article but if Click was choosing Meyers over Marte then yeah maybe he's better off elsewhere.
Maybe I'm just a natural sceptic but something about all this that doesn't pass the smell test.
click kept going against what his boss/owner kept telling him to do? Especially marte. Had a deal lined up for someone that good, owner said pull the trigger and he just said no? Maybe some pieces of these stories are accurate but as a whole they have been fabricated some?
Guess it doesn't matter but I just find this all a little out there
click kept going against what his boss/owner kept telling him to do? Especially marte. Had a deal lined up for someone that good, owner said pull the trigger and he just said no? Maybe some pieces of these stories are accurate but as a whole they have been fabricated some?
Guess it doesn't matter but I just find this all a little out there
Ag_07 said:
Haven't read the article but if Click was choosing Meyers over Marte then yeah maybe he's better off elsewhere.
bullard21k said:
Maybe I'm just a natural sceptic but something about all this that doesn't pass the smell test.
click kept going against what his boss/owner kept telling him to do? Especially marte. Had a deal lined up for someone that good, owner said pull the trigger and he just said no? Maybe some pieces of these stories are accurate but as a whole they have been fabricated some?
Guess it doesn't matter but I just find this all a little out there
Agreed.
I wonder who we would have given up? That seems left out of this story.
Hahahaha!
Analyst to Alex Bregman: “As a Nationals fan, any chance you guys can stop winning?”@ABREG_1: “I don’t know, I think the window is wide open right now, and it is for a while.” pic.twitter.com/t3FU2eob6X
— Ben DuBose (@BenDuBose) November 13, 2022
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Click was proven right in both instances. Hendricks and Marte. Not correct on the Meyers bit… Chas is better. Click also made good moves with the bullpen and didn't cost the team a lot in terms of what we had to give up in trades.
But defying the owner is not the move for longevity with the team.
But defying the owner is not the move for longevity with the team.
If Crane really wanted to over spend on Hendricks and Marte then I'm quite concerned. Those aren't deals JL would've been onboard with either
Who cares? It's his money to spend.
What I'm taking away here is the Crane wanted to spend and Click didn't. Click's biggest flaw was his ability to land the big fish.
These deals that he didn't do along with Crane handling the JV and Yordan extensions tells me he's great at operating within a small budget (what they do in TB) but when it comes to playing with the big boys he doesn't have it.
While Chas has turned out to be nice Marte would have been so so awesome in this lineup and answered every question we have surrounding the CF position. It was a mess this year and it didn't have to be.
What I'm taking away here is the Crane wanted to spend and Click didn't. Click's biggest flaw was his ability to land the big fish.
These deals that he didn't do along with Crane handling the JV and Yordan extensions tells me he's great at operating within a small budget (what they do in TB) but when it comes to playing with the big boys he doesn't have it.
While Chas has turned out to be nice Marte would have been so so awesome in this lineup and answered every question we have surrounding the CF position. It was a mess this year and it didn't have to be.
Marte worked out for year 1, but how long does he keep playing like a 20 M CFer? Age 34, 35, & 36 remain.
If we weren't willing to pay George, we shouldn't pay another teams aging CFer. It sends a **** message to the team.
Hendricks is legit but why pay so much for duplication. We have Pressly and some elite arms.
I'm siding with Click on both.
If we weren't willing to pay George, we shouldn't pay another teams aging CFer. It sends a **** message to the team.
Hendricks is legit but why pay so much for duplication. We have Pressly and some elite arms.
I'm siding with Click on both.
As if the Nats are going to be a legitimate contender for a World Series Title any time soon.agproducer said:
Hahahaha!Analyst to Alex Bregman: “As a Nationals fan, any chance you guys can stop winning?”@ABREG_1: “I don’t know, I think the window is wide open right now, and it is for a while.” pic.twitter.com/t3FU2eob6X
— Ben DuBose (@BenDuBose) November 13, 2022
The longer this window remains open for the Astros, especially if they win a couple more titles, the better their 2019 Championship will look,
agdaddy04 said:
If Crane really wanted to over spend on Hendricks and Marte then I'm quite concerned. Those aren't deals JL would've been onboard with either
The marte one is dumb to me. There are so many better options
At the time in 2021, Hendricks was at the top of his game so that one makes sense
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