I know. I'm surprised he only used one voice in it.
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The league definitely "f-ed around and found out." That was amazing.
Sign Yuli to a one-year deal for 5-6M and got get Abreu or Bell.
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
All the feels! Best one yet, without question!EastCoastAgNc said:Good morning, Houston. Say it as many times as you’d like and tell a friend: your @astros are #WorldSeries champions. #LevelUp 🤘🏼🔥 pic.twitter.com/xlDumo0J3n
— Adam Clanton (@adamclanton) November 9, 2022
This is the best one yet
Only thing that would concern me is the extensive injury histories on Abreu and Haniger.texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
No news on Justin Verlander yet. He is not officially a free agent yet. He has a player option worth of $25M in 2023 that he can opt into, but the Astros also have exclusive negotiation rights to him till tomorrow for a new deal.
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) November 9, 2022
Tomorrow is the first day of free agency.
Interesting that he hasn't opted out yet...maybe a sign that they are negotiating on something before free agency opens up.
It's a mutual option. Maybe Trey said no.EastCoastAgNc said:Trey Mancini is now a free agent. His option was not picked up by the Astros
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) November 9, 2022
Not sure what you mean by extensive injury history for Abreu. Games played by year...EastCoastAgNc said:Only thing that would concern me is the extensive injury histories on Abreu and Haniger.texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
2015: 154
2016: 159
2017: 156
2018: 128
2019: 159
2020: 60 (this was a 60 game season)
2021: 152
2022: 157
He's a pretty durable guy.
texasaggie2015 said:Not sure what you mean by extensive injury history for Abreu. Games played by year...EastCoastAgNc said:Only thing that would concern me is the extensive injury histories on Abreu and Haniger.texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
2015: 154
2016: 159
2017: 156
2018: 128
2019: 159
2020: 60 (this was a 60 game season)
2021: 152
2022: 157
He's a pretty durable guy.
Thought he had knee issues in his past...I must be getting him mixed up with another white Sox player
I'm hoping Uncle Mike is back, and if so, there's no room for Mancini.EastCoastAgNc said:Trey Mancini is now a free agent. His option was not picked up by the Astros
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) November 9, 2022
Does Abreu have an injury history? He's played less than 145 games one season in his career (except the covid season and he was 60/60 that year).EastCoastAgNc said:Only thing that would concern me is the extensive injury histories on Abreu and Haniger.texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
His age would start to concern me a little, but I'm not seeing the injury concern unless it was offseason stuff.
edit: I see it was already addressed.
Can you imagine how dominant we'd have been if uncle Mike hadn't got hurt?
He's our most consistent bat, and our DH spot was ice cold. That's a huge differential in our favor.
He's our most consistent bat, and our DH spot was ice cold. That's a huge differential in our favor.
Yeah, that may very well be the case. Maybe they're restructuring his current contract. But, what does JV stand to gain by doing that? Unless he just knows already that he wants to stay in Houston and is assured of getting a fair market offer from Crane?
I want Abreu. He's a RH bat who could exploit the crawford boxes. He's shown the ability to put up good HR #'s in the past. Not to mention hit's for avg as well.
Conforto or Haniger would be very good names for LF. Abreu is the top 1B on the market. JV is MFin JV. This would easily exceed my expectations. We do this and we're favorites to repeat, easily.texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
Altuve - 160
Bregman - 133
Alvarez - 187
Abreu - 133
Tucker - 128
Conforto - 100 in 21, 154 in 20.
Pena - 101
McCormick - 110
Maldy - 69
texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
I'm calling him Cocaine Mitch if it happens.
Among Willson Contreras’ potential free-agent suitors — if he rejects the QO, as expected — the Tigers would give up a 3rd-round pick to sign him; the Cardinals or Astros would forfeit a 2nd-round pick and $500,000 in international bonus pool money. @MLBNetwork @MLB
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) November 9, 2022
UM does so much for our lineup. He's gonna be able to hit .285 and work counts and have productive ABs until he's 50. Like you said, in this lineup of extreme streak hitters, it's nice to have a steady hand. Mike has literally never had a bad postseason series. Look at his numbers. Even in small sample sizes, unbelievably consistent.FrioAg 00 said:
Can you imagine how dominant we'd have been if uncle Mike hadn't got hurt?
He's our most consistent bat, and our DH spot was ice cold. That's a huge differential in our favor.
He's also another LHB to break up the lineup so that a RHP can't get as locked in to just spinning sliders a foot outside.
Have the Astros ever signed a free agent with a QO attached to him? I don't think they have.Teddy Perkins said:Among Willson Contreras’ potential free-agent suitors — if he rejects the QO, as expected — the Tigers would give up a 3rd-round pick to sign him; the Cardinals or Astros would forfeit a 2nd-round pick and $500,000 in international bonus pool money. @MLBNetwork @MLB
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) November 9, 2022
I do not believe so and I doubt they start now.EastCoastAgNc said:Have the Astros ever signed a free agent with a QO attached to him? I don't think they have.Teddy Perkins said:Among Willson Contreras’ potential free-agent suitors — if he rejects the QO, as expected — the Tigers would give up a 3rd-round pick to sign him; the Cardinals or Astros would forfeit a 2nd-round pick and $500,000 in international bonus pool money. @MLBNetwork @MLB
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) November 9, 2022
FrioAg 00 said:
Can you imagine how dominant we'd have been if uncle Mike hadn't got hurt?
He's our most consistent bat, and our DH spot was ice cold. That's a huge differential in our favor.
Legitimately could have run the table with Uncle Mike at DH.
It's kind of ironic that we don't want an aging Cuban at 1B in Yuli but don't mind signing one in Abreu.
But now since Mancini's option wasn't picked up I think you go after Abreu and Yuli (as a bench/DH/platoon player at 1B).
But now since Mancini's option wasn't picked up I think you go after Abreu and Yuli (as a bench/DH/platoon player at 1B).
Uncle Mike hitting 4 HRs by himself in game 3?Prosperdick said:FrioAg 00 said:
Can you imagine how dominant we'd have been if uncle Mike hadn't got hurt?
He's our most consistent bat, and our DH spot was ice cold. That's a huge differential in our favor.
Legitimately could have run the table with Uncle Mike at DH.
Let's guess the cost.texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
JV - 2/72 M with year 2 needing to vest
Abreu - 2/36 M
Conforto - 1/18 with a team option for year 2 at a similar AAV
That whole game mentality would have been different if we went to Phili up 2-0
Will Justin Verlander go into the Hall Of Fame as an Astro or a Tiger? pic.twitter.com/fOwVmorYQF
— Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014) November 8, 2022
Interesting discussion
104 home runs, 25-years old, and less than 3 full seasons in the big leagues. If he can stay healthy he's a lock yo hit more than 500 HR and could potentially threaten 600.EastCoastAgNc said:Yordan's 104 Home Runs in 30 seconds.
— Apollo Media (@ApolloHOU) November 8, 2022
Created by @adams_at pic.twitter.com/cIYpgNFMIF
Gimme.Farmer1906 said:Let's guess the cost.texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
JV - 2/72 M with year 2 needing to vest
Abreu - 2/36 M
Conforto - 1/18 with a team option for year 2 at a similar AAV
I should have seen the Conforto idea coming. We were pretty strongly connected to him around the postseason roster deadline. Lefty to take Brantley's place. I'll sign up for that. I think he'd be a plus LF.
Hope we're not a year late on Abreu but don't see much decline in his stats. I'd love to stick him between Yordan and Tucker.
This would also allow us to keep all seven starting pitchers and manage innings like crazy over the 162. Yes please.
If we snag those three, I'm totally cool rolling into 2023 with Maldy + Diaz/Lee behind the plate and then re-assessing at the deadline. I will shed a tear when Vazquez signs elsewhere though. Most people don't know this about me but I'm big into veteran/savvy catchers.
yuli 22' stats: -.3 WAR, .242 avg, .647 OPSAg_07 said:
It's kind of ironic that we don't want an aging Cuban at 1B in Yuli but don't mind signing one in Abreu.
But now since Mancini's option wasn't picked up I think you go after Abreu and Yuli (as a bench/DH/platoon player at 1B).
career: 13.4 WAR, .284 avg, .776 OPS
Abrue 22' stats: 4.2 WAR, .304 avg, .824 OPS
career: 31.9 WAR, .292 avg, .860 OPS
small sample why I'd sign Abreu over Yuli. Not to mention he's younger
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jose-abreu-547989?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/yuli-gurriel-493329?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb
No kink-shaming here.Deluxe said:
Most people don't know this about me but I'm big into veteran/savvy catchers.
Can we do the above signings and still sign Yuli and Brantley? Or at least Yuli on a 1 year/5M?Farmer1906 said:Let's guess the cost.texasaggie2015 said:
Anybody read ClutchFans? Nook is a well known poster over there and is well connected.
He's pretty confident we go after Jose Abreu. He also says he's heard Michael Conforto mentioned a lot and Mitch Haniger is another name that's been brought up. He says the team wants to extend the lineup.
He mentioned that his dream scenario is adding Conforto, Abreu and Verlander all on short term deals. Interesting. He knows his stuff and has insight.
JV - 2/72 M with year 2 needing to vest
Abreu - 2/36 M
Conforto - 1/18 with a team option for year 2 at a similar AAV
No doubt
Just an interesting sidebar.
And IIRC the Astros have been after Abreu for a while now both via trade and the last time he was slated for FA before he reupped with CWS.
Just an interesting sidebar.
And IIRC the Astros have been after Abreu for a while now both via trade and the last time he was slated for FA before he reupped with CWS.
after pulling up the link on baseball savant for yuli and really diving into his stats, I didn't realize just how bad he was this year. Damn. Pretty damn pitiful.
From ESPN... guesses on free agent salaries
Quote:
3. Carlos Correa, SS
2022 Opening Day age: 28
Projected contract: 8 years, $265 million ($33.1M AAV)
9. Justin Verlander, RHP
2022 Opening Day age: 40
Projected contract: 2 years, $72 million ($36M AAV)
13. Jose Abreu, 1B
2022 Opening Day age: 36
Projected contract: 2 years, $46 million ($23M AAV)
14. Willson Contreras, C
2022 Opening Day age: 30
Projected contract: 3 years, $45 million ($15M AAV)
15. Andrew Benintendi, OF
2022 Opening Day age: 28
Projected contract: 3 years, $42 million ($14M AAV)
18. Anthony Rizzo, 1B
2022 Opening Day age: 33
Projected contract: 2 years, $34 million ($17M AAV)
23. Michael Brantley, LF
2022 Opening Day age: 35
Projected contract: 2 years, $28 million ($14M AAV)
26. Rafael Montero, RHP
2022 Opening Day age: 32
Projected contract: 2 years, $25 million ($12.5M AAV)
27. Jurickson Profar, LF
2022 Opening Day age: 30
Projected contract: 2 years, $24 million ($12M AAV)
28. Joc Pederson, LF
2022 Opening Day age: 30
Projected contract: 2 years, $24 million ($12M AAV)
31. Josh Bell, 1B
2022 Opening Day age: 30
Projected contract: 2 years, $20 million ($10M AAV)
32. Michael Conforto, OF
2022 Opening Day age: 30
Projected contract: 1 year, $19 million
42. Christian Vazquez, C
2022 Opening Day age: 32
Projected contract: 2 years, $14 million ($7M AAV)
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