***** Official 2022 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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In reply to FrioAg 00 • 2:44p, 10/26/22
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FrioAg 00 said:
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
The astros just pitch their ace 1a for game one, their ace 2a for game two, and their ace 3a for game three. Surprised more dont do this.


The Astros literally have 3 pitchers who would be #1 on the majority of teams (JV, Fram, LMJ), and we have 4 guys who could be #2 or #3 guys on most teams right now (Urq, Javier, Garcia, Brown)

We also have 3 setup guys (Stanek, Abreu, Montero) who would be the best reliever on most teams, or possibly their closer. And we still have an ace closer too.

I'm not sure we've ever seen this much pitching depth on one team.
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2:56p, 10/26/22
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Oh BTW the last time JV faced the Phillies…

Verlander, making his 28th and final start, struck out 10 batters and walked one in five hitless innings, lowering his ERA to 1.75, in the Astros' 10-0 win over the Phillies. Houston is 105-56 heading into Wednesday's regular-season finale.
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In reply to Wabs • 2:57p, 10/26/22
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We have the best pitching staff, yet no Framber and they have two pitchers....makes zero sense.
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In reply to cone • 3:00p, 10/26/22
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it's probably just me

but I think whoever wins game 1 wins the series
If the Philly's win game 1, I may put a grand on the Astros to win it all depending how much the odds swing. I am very confident we win 3 and 4 because their starters are that atrocious. They will go to the pen early in 3 and 4 and we will smash their relievers. I actually think game 1 is the least important game this series.

We are so deep at pitching I think it is very easy to come back from an 0-2 start because they will just run out of pitching the longer the series goes. Game 7 would be an all hands on deck for them and we will just be sitting there with LMJ/Urquidy/Garcia/Brown all ready to throw whatever we need.

The only path I see for them is to beat Framber and JV twice each in games 1,2,5,6. I think they practically concede games 3,4, and 7 to us for lack of depth.
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In reply to Big Al 1992 • 3:00p, 10/26/22
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Big Al 1992 said:
Oh BTW the last time JV faced the Phillies…

Verlander, making his 28th and final start, struck out 10 batters and walked one in five hitless innings, lowering his ERA to 1.75, in the Astros' 10-0 win over the Phillies. Houston is 105-56 heading into Wednesday's regular-season finale.
tbf, the phils clinched the day before and were surely starting whomever was less hungover
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In reply to Eso si, Que es • 3:02p, 10/26/22
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Eso si, Que es said:
cone said:
it's probably just me

but I think whoever wins game 1 wins the series
If the Philly's win game 1, I may put a grand on the Astros to win it all depending how much the odds swing. I am very confident we win 3 and 4 because their starters are that atrocious. They will go to the pen early in 3 and 4 and we will smash their relievers. I actually think game 1 is the least important game this series.

We are so deep at pitching I think it is very easy to come back from an 0-2 start because they will just run out of pitching the longer the series goes. Game 7 would be an all hands on deck for them and we will just be sitting there with LMJ/Urquidy/Garcia/Brown all ready to throw whatever we need.

The only path I see for them is to beat Framber and JV twice each in games 1,2,5,6. I think they practically concede games 3,4, and 7 to us for lack of depth.


Another winner, beat Astros 4 games out of first 6 and then concede the 7th
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In reply to aggie813 • 3:03p, 10/26/22
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Wabs said:

We have the best pitching staff, yet no Framber and they have two pitchers....makes zero sense.

My thoughts exactly, what a dumb list.
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In reply to aggie813 • 3:05p, 10/26/22
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Wabs said:

We have the best pitching staff, yet no Framber and they have two pitchers....makes zero sense.
Yeah if they really think that is the top 10, then we sweep 11 - 20 positions with Framber, Pena, LMJ, Pressly, Javier, Yuli, Abreau, Neris, Dusty Baker JR.
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In reply to Premium • 3:07p, 10/26/22
Premium said:
Eso si, Que es said:
cone said:
it's probably just me

but I think whoever wins game 1 wins the series
If the Philly's win game 1, I may put a grand on the Astros to win it all depending how much the odds swing. I am very confident we win 3 and 4 because their starters are that atrocious. They will go to the pen early in 3 and 4 and we will smash their relievers. I actually think game 1 is the least important game this series.

We are so deep at pitching I think it is very easy to come back from an 0-2 start because they will just run out of pitching the longer the series goes. Game 7 would be an all hands on deck for them and we will just be sitting there with LMJ/Urquidy/Garcia/Brown all ready to throw whatever we need.

The only path I see for them is to beat Framber and JV twice each in games 1,2,5,6. I think they practically concede games 3,4, and 7 to us for lack of depth.


Another winner, beat Astros 4 games out of first 6 and then concede the 7th
your reading comprehension is less than premium. I said the only path i see for them is to win 1,2,5,6 because they practically concede 3, 4, 7.

Not that difficult of a concept. Philly wins Nola and Wheelers 4 starts or don't win the series IMO.
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In reply to Eso si, Que es • 3:08p, 10/26/22
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Eso si, Que es said:
cone said:
it's probably just me

but I think whoever wins game 1 wins the series
If the Philly's win game 1, I may put a grand on the Astros to win it all depending how much the odds swing. I am very confident we win 3 and 4 because their starters are that atrocious. They will go to the pen early in 3 and 4 and we will smash their relievers. I actually think game 1 is the least important game this series.

We are so deep at pitching I think it is very easy to come back from an 0-2 start because they will just run out of pitching the longer the series goes. Game 7 would be an all hands on deck for them and we will just be sitting there with LMJ/Urquidy/Garcia/Brown all ready to throw whatever we need.

The only path I see for them is to beat Framber and JV twice each in games 1,2,5,6. I think they practically concede games 3,4, and 7 to us for lack of depth.
My biggest fear is tons of rain in Philly give them extra rest as MLB stupidly pushes games out and negates our strengths of having the best rotation and bullpen.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 3:19p, 10/26/22
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Cry about it
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Ryan Pressley has an ERA of 0.00 and 4 saves in 5 games, along with 8 strikeouts in 5.1 innings (14.1 K/9 IP). I can't take a list seriously if he's not at least #2.
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In reply to Premium • 3:20p, 10/26/22
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Why don't teams ever pitch their worst pitcher in game 1. For example, concede game 1 by putting up your worst pitcher against Verlander and then the next several games your pitchers should be one notch better than the opponent.

Kind of like sacrificing your pawn for a rook?
World Series Verlander is our worst pitcher tho...
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We have so much pitching depth we haven't even needed to use our depth much.

Luis only pitched in one ALDS game and Urquidy hasn't pitched at all.

We're so deep we can't even use our depth.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 3:27p, 10/26/22
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EastCoastAgNc said:
3B Paul 97 said:
texasaggie2015 said:
kegstand said:
Speaking of Rockets, it was cool seeing Clemens throw out the first pitch against the Yankees as an Astro/Yankee. Too bad we used Oswalt last series too. Who do we think we'll see this weekend?
Eric Bruntlett

Lidge and Wagner. Let's see if they can still bring it.

Lidge was on MLB network yesterday, said he's pulling for the Phillies.


….I can understand why.

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Ag_07 said:
We have so much pitching depth we haven't even needed to use our depth much.

Luis only pitched in one ALDS game and Urquidy hasn't pitched at all.

We're so deep we can't even use our depth.

And we've played an 18 inning game…..
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In reply to lil99chris • 3:32p, 10/26/22
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lil99chris said:
EastCoastAgNc said:
3B Paul 97 said:
texasaggie2015 said:
kegstand said:
Speaking of Rockets, it was cool seeing Clemens throw out the first pitch against the Yankees as an Astro/Yankee. Too bad we used Oswalt last series too. Who do we think we'll see this weekend?
Eric Bruntlett

Lidge and Wagner. Let's see if they can still bring it.

Lidge was on MLB network yesterday, said he's pulling for the Phillies.
I had his signed shirt framed in 2006, now he's dead to me. Time be like that.
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3:37p, 10/26/22
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Let's say we are up 3-1. Do we really go back to JV on short (as far as this season) or gamble with the plethora of other starters and make them beat JV and Framber at home?
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bigjag19 said:
Let's say we are up 3-1. Do we really go back to JV on short (as far as this season) or gamble with the plethora of other starters and make them beat JV and Framber at home?


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bigjag19 said:
Let's say we are up 3-1. Do we really go back to JV on short (as far as this season) or gamble with the plethora of other starters and make them beat JV and Framber at home?

If we get up 3-1 I think you throw Javier or Garcia in Game 5. Either of those pitchers are certainly quality enough. And that way you get JV and Framber on full rest if needed for Games 6 and 7
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In reply to bigjag19 • 3:44p, 10/26/22
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Let's say we are up 3-1. Do we really go back to JV on short (as far as this season) or gamble with the plethora of other starters and make them beat JV and Framber at home?
It's for the World Series. You go for the kill. Don't over think it. Start JV.
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In reply to KTAG05 • 3:44p, 10/26/22
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Pitching Ninja finally threw the Astros a bone if you are interested




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In reply to GigEmMortis • 3:45p, 10/26/22
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GigEmMortis said:
bigjag19 said:
Let's say we are up 3-1. Do we really go back to JV on short (as far as this season) or gamble with the plethora of other starters and make them beat JV and Framber at home?

If we get up 3-1 I think you throw Javier or Garcia in Game 5. Either of those pitchers are certainly quality enough. And that way you get JV and Framber on full rest if needed for Games 6 and 7

I know framber has worked a lot on his mentality, but I don't want to test it in game 7. That has potential for disaster
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In reply to Beau Holder • 3:46p, 10/26/22
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Cry about it
Well I mean...he is
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In reply to Beat40 • 3:49p, 10/26/22
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Beat40 said:
bigjag19 said:
Let's say we are up 3-1. Do we really go back to JV on short (as far as this season) or gamble with the plethora of other starters and make them beat JV and Framber at home?
It's for the World Series. You go for the kill. Don't over think it. Start JV.
Yea, that's not even a question. If you're up 3-1, you force them to beat JV, Framber and LMJ/Javier in a row if they want to win the series.
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3:53p, 10/26/22
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Postseason off days…


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In reply to Deluxe • 3:56p, 10/26/22
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Deluxe said:
Beat40 said:
bigjag19 said:
Let's say we are up 3-1. Do we really go back to JV on short (as far as this season) or gamble with the plethora of other starters and make them beat JV and Framber at home?
It's for the World Series. You go for the kill. Don't over think it. Start JV.
Yea, that's not even a question. If you're up 3-1, you force them to beat JV, Framber and LMJ/Javier in a row if they want to win the series.
Here is how it plays out.

Starter for game 1 starts game 5
Starter for game 2 starts game 6
Starter for game 3 starts game 7
Starter for game 4 only starts game 4, but can come out of the pen in game 7.

Those 4 should be a combination of Verlander, McCullers, Valdez, & Javier. Arguments can be made for any of the 4 getting any of the games.

Brown, Garcia, or Urquidy only get a start if there is an injury.
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In reply to spadilly • 4:07p, 10/26/22
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Postseason off days…


is he possessed?
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spadilly said:

Postseason off days…


Kind of looks like he's talking to the angel on one shoulder and the devil on the other.
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EastCoastAgNc said:



This guy is more responsible for your candy ass dodgers losing. Where's your cry baby tweet there?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:17p, 10/26/22
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Farmer1906 said:
Deluxe said:
Beat40 said:
bigjag19 said:
Let's say we are up 3-1. Do we really go back to JV on short (as far as this season) or gamble with the plethora of other starters and make them beat JV and Framber at home?
It's for the World Series. You go for the kill. Don't over think it. Start JV.
Yea, that's not even a question. If you're up 3-1, you force them to beat JV, Framber and LMJ/Javier in a row if they want to win the series.
Here is how it plays out.

Starter for game 1 starts game 5
Starter for game 2 starts game 6
Starter for game 3 starts game 7
Starter for game 4 only starts game 4, but can come out of the pen in game 7.

Those 4 should be a combination of Verlander, McCullers, Valdez, & Javier. Arguments can be made for any of the 4 getting any of the games.

Brown, Garcia, or Urquidy only get a start if there is an injury.


Yep
This isn't even short rest

Verlander starts Game 5
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