***** Official 2022 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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In reply to HarryRocket • 12:54p, 10/26/22
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HarryRocket said:
Farmer1906 said:
We all agree the Phillies have horrendous defense, right?

Schwarber is real real bad.
Castellanos is one of the worst OFers.
Bohm ain't great.
Hoskins ain't either.
Stott ain't Pena. He's average, maybe.

On the flip side they don't have any elite guys to counter the poor play.

MLB leaders Errors (fewest)
1. Cards
2. Mets
3. PHILLIES


Hmmm….


Huh? This is saying the Phillies had the 3rd lowest amount of errors? But they suck defensively?


Do you think they suck defensively?
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12:55p, 10/26/22
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Look at defensive runs saved

HOU 67
PHI -34
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In reply to Ragnar Danneskjoldd • 1:05p, 10/26/22
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Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
The astros just pitch their ace 1a for game one, their ace 2a for game two, and their ace 3a for game three. Surprised more dont do this.
Not to be picky but if were saying they're Aces wouldn't it be 1A, 1B, 1C?
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 1:07p, 10/26/22
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
The astros just pitch their ace 1a for game one, their ace 2a for game two, and their ace 3a for game three. Surprised more dont do this.
Not to be picky but if were saying they're Aces wouldn't it be 1A, 1B, 1C?

It would actually be A1, A2, and A3
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1:09p, 10/26/22
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yeah Im dumb.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:10p, 10/26/22
Farmer1906 said:
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
The astros just pitch their ace 1a for game one, their ace 2a for game two, and their ace 3a for game three. Surprised more dont do this.
Don't forget Ace #4 as well.


Also, don't forget their closer is basically a starter because he has four pitches, and only starters have four pitches.
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1:11p, 10/26/22
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Pitching Ninja finally threw the Astros a bone if you are interested

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1:13p, 10/26/22
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"Red October". Sounds ****ing dumb.
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In reply to Wabs • 1:15p, 10/26/22
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Its a play on "The Hunt for Red October"
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:18p, 10/26/22
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Its a play on "The Hunt for Red October"
I realize that. Still dumb.
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In reply to KTAG05 • 1:18p, 10/26/22
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He's already released an Astros one. I have it. I'll be getting this one too
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:20p, 10/26/22
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Farmer1906 said:
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
The astros just pitch their ace 1a for game one, their ace 2a for game two, and their ace 3a for game three. Surprised more dont do this.
Don't forget Ace #4 as well.
Ace #5 gets to sit in the BP in come into the game in the 14th inning
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In reply to wangus12 • 1:34p, 10/26/22
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wangus12 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
The astros just pitch their ace 1a for game one, their ace 2a for game two, and their ace 3a for game three. Surprised more dont do this.
Don't forget Ace #4 as well.
Ace #5 gets to sit in the BP in come into the game in the 14th inning
Its too bad the World Series Ace likely isn't going to pitch in the World Series this year.
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In reply to Cromagnum • 1:44p, 10/26/22
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Cromagnum said:
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Why don't teams ever pitch their worst pitcher in game 1. For example, concede game 1 by putting up your worst pitcher against Verlander and then the next several games your pitchers should be one notch better than the opponent.

Kind of like sacrificing your pawn for a rook?


Because even your #1's can lay a steaming #2 on the mound from time to time. See Verlander in the ALDS and LMJ in the ALCS.

I get Lance wasn't super sharp, but I wouldn't say he laid a steaming pile in the ALCS either. He kept us in it.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:45p, 10/26/22
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Farmer1906 said:
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
The astros just pitch their ace 1a for game one, their ace 2a for game two, and their ace 3a for game three. Surprised more dont do this.
Don't forget Ace #4 as well.
Correct. We have four aces.
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1:47p, 10/26/22
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Would LuAce, Urquidy and H Brown all be the No. 3 starter on Philly?
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 1:49p, 10/26/22
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Saw that article earlier. Good stuff.
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In reply to agdaddy04 • 1:51p, 10/26/22
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agdaddy04 said:
Cromagnum said:
Premium said:
Why don't teams ever pitch their worst pitcher in game 1. For example, concede game 1 by putting up your worst pitcher against Verlander and then the next several games your pitchers should be one notch better than the opponent.

Kind of like sacrificing your pawn for a rook?


Because even your #1's can lay a steaming #2 on the mound from time to time. See Verlander in the ALDS and LMJ in the ALCS.

I get Lance wasn't super sharp, but I wouldn't say he laid a steaming pile in the ALCS either. He kept us in it.
He was only 1 inning away from the ever important quality start.
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1:52p, 10/26/22
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*Astros trade a crap reliever to the Dodgers for a generational hitter*

other fans: "THEY MUST BE CHEATING"
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 1:53p, 10/26/22
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He's going to see so many curve balls and sliders at his back foot.
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In reply to Deluxe • 1:55p, 10/26/22
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Would LuAce, Urquidy and H Brown all be the No. 3 starter on Philly?
Maybe. An argument can easily be made.

If we rank the top 15 pitchers in the WS and I set the over-under of Astros at 11.5.

Yall taking the over or under?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:05p, 10/26/22
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Farmer1906 said:
Deluxe said:
Would LuAce, Urquidy and H Brown all be the No. 3 starter on Philly?
Maybe. An argument can easily be made.

If we rank the top 15 pitchers in the WS and I set the over-under of Astros at 11.5.

Yall taking the over or under?
I think that's about right. Nola and Wheeler obviously. Might give Hand and Alvarado the benefit of the doubt.
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In reply to Deluxe • 2:08p, 10/26/22
Deluxe said:
Farmer1906 said:
Deluxe said:
Would LuAce, Urquidy and H Brown all be the No. 3 starter on Philly?
Maybe. An argument can easily be made.

If we rank the top 15 pitchers in the WS and I set the over-under of Astros at 11.5.

Yall taking the over or under?
I think that's about right. Nola and Wheeler obviously. Might give Hand and Alvarado the benefit of the doubt.


I'm not to worried about the Astros' offense an against their pitching. I think they'll handle it fine.

I am very, very curious how their offense handles the Astros' pitching. That's the series.
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In reply to Deluxe • 2:10p, 10/26/22
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Deluxe said:
Farmer1906 said:
Deluxe said:
Would LuAce, Urquidy and H Brown all be the No. 3 starter on Philly?
Maybe. An argument can easily be made.

If we rank the top 15 pitchers in the WS and I set the over-under of Astros at 11.5.

Yall taking the over or under?
I think that's about right. Nola and Wheeler obviously. Might give Hand and Alvarado the benefit of the doubt.
Hand is washed (pun intended). Their goto is Alvarado and Domnguez, and kinda Robertson. There is a reason they used Suarez to close out game 5.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:14p, 10/26/22
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I dig that pun
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:19p, 10/26/22
Farmer1906 said:
HarryRocket said:
Farmer1906 said:
We all agree the Phillies have horrendous defense, right?

Schwarber is real real bad.
Castellanos is one of the worst OFers.
Bohm ain't great.
Hoskins ain't either.
Stott ain't Pena. He's average, maybe.

On the flip side they don't have any elite guys to counter the poor play.

MLB leaders Errors (fewest)
1. Cards
2. Mets
3. PHILLIES


Hmmm….


Huh? This is saying the Phillies had the 3rd lowest amount of errors? But they suck defensively?


Do you think they suck defensively?


I don't know. I don't follow the Phillies, I expect the experts here to break it down for me.
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In reply to HarryRocket • 2:25p, 10/26/22
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HarryRocket said:
Farmer1906 said:
HarryRocket said:
Farmer1906 said:
We all agree the Phillies have horrendous defense, right?

Schwarber is real real bad.
Castellanos is one of the worst OFers.
Bohm ain't great.
Hoskins ain't either.
Stott ain't Pena. He's average, maybe.

On the flip side they don't have any elite guys to counter the poor play.

MLB leaders Errors (fewest)
1. Cards
2. Mets
3. PHILLIES


Hmmm….


Huh? This is saying the Phillies had the 3rd lowest amount of errors? But they suck defensively?


Do you think they suck defensively?


I don't know. I don't follow the Phillies, I expect the experts here to break it down for me.
phillies expert here. They bad at fielding.
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2:26p, 10/26/22
Phillies ranked 25th in the league in defensive runs saved at -34. That's a horrific number, even for really bad teams. They said to hell with defense and their plan is to beat you by mashing.
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In reply to HarryRocket • 2:28p, 10/26/22
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HarryRocket said:
Farmer1906 said:
HarryRocket said:
Farmer1906 said:
We all agree the Phillies have horrendous defense, right?

Schwarber is real real bad.
Castellanos is one of the worst OFers.
Bohm ain't great.
Hoskins ain't either.
Stott ain't Pena. He's average, maybe.

On the flip side they don't have any elite guys to counter the poor play.

MLB leaders Errors (fewest)
1. Cards
2. Mets
3. PHILLIES


Hmmm….


Huh? This is saying the Phillies had the 3rd lowest amount of errors? But they suck defensively?


Do you think they suck defensively?


I don't know. I don't follow the Phillies, I expect the experts here to break it down for me.
I am just continuing my personal war against errors.

Here is my post from a couple of days ago. They suck. We're the opposite of suck.


Quote:
You are correct. I did.

The longer this goes on, the more opportunities they have to **** things up.

Astros
OAA +30
Runs Prevented +25
DRS +67

Phillies
OAA -35
Runs Prevented -29
DRS -33
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In reply to Ragnar Danneskjoldd • 2:36p, 10/26/22
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Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
The astros just pitch their ace 1a for game one, their ace 2a for game two, and their ace 3a for game three. Surprised more dont do this.


The Astros literally have 3 pitchers who would be #1 on the majority of teams (JV, Fram, LMJ), and we have 4 guys who could be #2 or #3 guys on most teams right now (Urq, Javier, Garcia, Brown)

We also have 3 setup guys (Stanek, Abreu, Montero) who would be the best reliever on most teams, or possibly their closer. And we still have an ace closer too.

I'm not sure we've ever seen this much pitching depth on one team.
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