***** Official 2022 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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I'd also sit Yordan, and Bregman today.

No need to risk any injury.
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I'm not sure I would. Treat it like spring training. Get them a few ABs and them get off their feet. They're about to have a bunch of days off. They're going to need some simulated games just to stay sharp. No reason to make their extended break longer.
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jkag89 said:




I appreciate the pics. The flexing of the bat at impact as it absorbs the force of the ball is more understandable, but I had not ever seen/noticed the degree of forward flex the bat achieves following impact. It never caught my eye. It is impressive a MLB bats do not break more often!
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So who got the easier path, Yanks or Stros?
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Just an Ag said:

Holy Bat Flex: there could be many good reasons and this may be perfectly normal. But I've never seen a wooden bat show this flex in this way in stills or slo-mo. Maybe it happens every time and I've just never noticed or paid attention....


I guarantee his bat has a small hollow section where the wires run for the buzzer that Manfred uses to let him know that he is getting a good pitch to swing for the fences.
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It was also a good day for the jankees because they lost to the rangers
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jkag89 said:




https://ts.la/eric59704
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Teddy Perkins said:

So who got the easier path, Yanks or Stros?

Yankees. Guardians played a schedule softer than Charmin.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


i mean, i'll write it down, but i'd rather use it as a bookmark or put it in a picture frame
https://ts.la/eric59704
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Just an Ag said:

Holy Bat Flex: there could be many good reasons and this may be perfectly normal. But I've never seen a wooden bat show this flex in this way in stills or slo-mo. Maybe it happens every time and I've just never noticed or paid attention....


I've been digging through pictures trying to find a similar post impact bat flex and haven't found one. The other pictures posted on here are at impact (not post impact) and ball off the end of the bat, which should create more flex relative to squaring one up (as Judge presumably did here).

If he's been manipulating his bat in some way, it would surprise me zero. The Yankees obviously have a long history of enabling cheaters and the Spaeder tweets earlier this year calling this make me a little suspicious.

But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.

I'm open to the possibility that he just "found something" this year (ie the JD Martinez argument). We'll see in the coming years whether or not that's the case. If he goes back to his .900 OPS, 30 HR norms next year, hmmm.

If someone can find a similar post impact bat flex picture like that, I'm happy to take that evidence under consideration.
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he's a dickless wonder
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The magic he found was a contract year and possibly some juiced balls thanks to MLB once 62 was in reach.

I wouldn't fret over it too much.
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Ag_07 said:

The magic he found was a contract year and possibly some juiced balls thanks to MLB once 62 was in reach.

I wouldn't fret over it too much.
Too late!
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Teddy Perkins said:

So who got the easier path, Yanks or Stros?

Yankees. Guardians played a schedule softer than Charmin.
I think we see the Rays in the ALCS
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Well gents, on the morning of 162, we can officially say we made it. From April 7th to October 5th:

There was lots of winning....



There was a lot of bit****g....



There was plenty of TOFA / AOFA....



We overcame a lot of obstacles....



A couple of goats put on show after show....




But it does not end here. Time to buckle up and chase another trophy....



For the regulars. For those who put the kids to bed and stayed up to cheer on the good guys. For those who fought back the yawning and dreary eyes on those late west coast night games. For those who went out to MMP and cheered their a** off. This salute is for you.






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But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.
Roger Maris hit 39 HRs the year before he hit 61 and 33 the season after. He never had another season in which he hit 30+ home runs.
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I need to mentally prepare myself for the stress of following a playoff game on the MLB app while in meetings. That kind of multi-tasking takes a toll.
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CFTXAG10 said:


Interesting how a normal wooden bat recoils after squaring one up
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jkag89 said:

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But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.
Roger Maris hit 39 HRs the year before he hit 61 and 33 the season after. He never had another season in which he hit 30+ home runs.
Please get your fact-based logic out of here. We're not interested in it!
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Good stuff
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jkag89 said:

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But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.
Roger Maris hit 39 HRs the year before he hit 61 and 33 the season after. He never had another season in which he hit 30+ home runs.
Tired argument. Brady Anderson hit 50 in 1996 and never hit more than 24 otherwise. Luis Gonzalez hit 57 in 2001 and never hit more than 31 otherwise. Were they cheating?

You're right that statistical anomalies don't definitively prove funny business. I'm not saying Judge's anomaly season definitively proves funny business. But it's perfectly reasonable to be suspicious.
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The Porkchop Express said:

jkag89 said:

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But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.
Roger Maris hit 39 HRs the year before he hit 61 and 33 the season after. He never had another season in which he hit 30+ home runs.
Please get your fact-based logic out of here. We're not interested in it!
Yes sir.
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Bregxit said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


And probably pinch hit him to make sure he drops to .299.
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Deluxe said:

But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.
Based on historical precedent and common sense, I assume anyone who does something like this is cheating, so I'm with you there...but calling 52 HR and a 1.049 OPS over 155 games his rookie season a "hot stretch"?

Don't forget that his injury history has been very Correa-like. This is the first time in his career he has has played in more than 110ish games in back to back seasons...and he has averaged nearly 50 HR per 162 games, so it's not that much of a stretch to think that having a career year over a full season would result in 62.
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Deluxe said:

jkag89 said:

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But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.
Roger Maris hit 39 HRs the year before he hit 61 and 33 the season after. He never had another season in which he hit 30+ home runs.
Tired argument. Brady Anderson hit 50 in 1996 and never hit more than 24 otherwise. Luis Gonzalez hit 57 in 2001 and never hit more than 31 otherwise. Were they cheating?

You're right that statistical anomalies don't definitively prove funny business. I'm not saying Judge's anomaly season definitively proves funny business. But it's perfectly reasonable to be suspicious.
Yes. Yes he was.
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Harry Dunne said:

Deluxe said:

But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.
Based on historical precedent and common sense, I assume anyone who does something like this is cheating, so I'm with you there...but calling 52 HR and a 1.049 OPS over 155 games his rookie season a "hot stretch"?

He also hasn't had a full healthy season since his rookie year, and he has averaged nearly 50 HR per 162 games, so it's not that much of a stretch to think that having a career year over a full season would result in 62.

The hot stretch I'm referring to is 1.139 OPS and 30 HR in the first half of 2017. The second half was much more in line with his career numbers (.939 / 22 HR... with quite a bit of that damage done late in Sept against teams that were out of contention).

Also worth reiterating that the Yankees were caught cheating that year.
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Buck Compton said:

Deluxe said:

jkag89 said:

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But the main reason I'm suspicious is because he's just not this good. Nothing about his track record shows that he's capable of this (other than a hot stretch as a rookie in 2017... when the Yankees were literally caught cheating). He's good, but he's not this good.
Roger Maris hit 39 HRs the year before he hit 61 and 33 the season after. He never had another season in which he hit 30+ home runs.
Tired argument. Brady Anderson hit 50 in 1996 and never hit more than 24 otherwise. Luis Gonzalez hit 57 in 2001 and never hit more than 31 otherwise. Were they cheating?

You're right that statistical anomalies don't definitively prove funny business. I'm not saying Judge's anomaly season definitively proves funny business. But it's perfectly reasonable to be suspicious.
Yes. Yes he was.
Agreed! That's my point.
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Yes of course he was juiced to the gills. Were our stars cheating in that era? 100%

That's the thing about pointing fingers at Judge. We know most of the successful franchises were doing some form of the sign-stealing and it sucked being the scapegoat, but flip that around and whatever Judge is doing (whether that's juicing, or magic bat or whatever), I'm sure that we (and the Dodgers and Braves and so on) are attempting to do the same.
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I think we are on the same page. See post above.
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Harry Dunne said:

Yes of course he was juiced to the gills. Were our stars cheating in that era? 100%

That's the thing about pointing fingers at Judge. We know most of the successful franchises were doing some form of the sign-stealing and it sucked being the scapegoat, but flip that around and whatever Judge is doing (whether that's juicing, or magic bat or whatever), I'm sure that we (and the Dodgers and Braves and so on) are attempting to do the same.

Agree. I don't have any doubt the Yankees, Astros and any other team in baseball that's worth a damn is up to shenanigans.

Baseball and cheating are synonymous. Always has been and always will be.

The reason I don't like Judge and want him to be outed as the cheater that he was in 2017 and possibly still is today is cuz of stuff like this…

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so Altuve finishes the season with 1.935 career hits.

this sets him up to reach 2,100 by the end of next season.

wonder if there could be a small extension coming for Altuve in the offseason
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Dodgers have a really tough path. Potentially back-to-back series with teams with 100+ wins.

Really want to see Seattle come out of the wild card series against Toronto. I always like reminding them where they stand, and I don't to have to root against Springer
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Pena with an OPS+ up to 101, now.

Overall solid year for our rookie SS.
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