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Contreras has an .844 OPS --- a mark that is only surpassed on the Astros by Yordan and Altuve.
he would become the primary catcher.
not leaving his stick on the bench
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Will it continue?
Farmer1906 said:
How sexy would this be?
Altuve
Tucker
Bregman
Alvarez
Contreras
Bell
Pena
Brantley
Meyers
Bench
Diaz
Gurriel
McCormick
Maldonado
Tell me that lineup wouldn't give up a ridiculous edge. Go all in. It wouldn't even cost THAT much to make it happen.
ttha_aggie_09 said:
Machete isn't going to be the backup, even if we get Contreras.
Yep.AgDoc03 said:
With the uncertainty of Brantley and Alvarez, why couldn't Contreras be our primary DH and spot starter at C when Maldy needs a break?
Ags #1 said:
Lol no **** but really seems like jv and framber would still want maldy as their personal catcher. But like you said they may have 0 say in who their catcher is.
AgDoc03 said:
With the uncertainty of Brantley and Alvarez, why couldn't Contreras be our primary DH and spot starter at C when Maldy needs a break?
Farmer1906 said:ttha_aggie_09 said:
Machete isn't going to be the backup, even if we get Contreras.
A top 20ish hitter in baseball wouldn't start over someone who's 37% worse than the avg big leaguer after a red hot 2-3 week streak?
Cmon man.
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BadAggie said:
Contreras has started 50 games at C and 29 at DH this season.
Check out the games started on that stat page. He hasn't started a game at something other than C or DH since 2019 and even then it was just 3 games that year. He started just 2 games in the OF that year.EastCoastAgNc said:BadAggie said:
Contreras has started 50 games at C and 29 at DH this season.
I pointed this out earlier. Look at the standard fielding section on his baseball reference here: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/contrwi01.shtml#standard_fielding . He has played a lot of other positions. If he can still do that, he said a lot more value and there's potential to combine him and maldy in the field and lineup.
It's got nothing to do with hitting and everything to do with handling the pitchers. They have to have so much rapport and the pitcher has to trust the catcher enormously to be really great out there. It's like trading for the 15 point a night 7 footer who sits on the perimeter shooting threes and benching your guy who averages 12 boards and 3 blocks a game.Farmer1906 said:ttha_aggie_09 said:
Machete isn't going to be the backup, even if we get Contreras.
A top 20ish hitter in baseball wouldn't start over someone who's 37% worse than the avg big leaguer after a red hot 2-3 week streak?
Cmon man.
Farmer1906 said:ttha_aggie_09 said:
Machete isn't going to be the backup, even if we get Contreras.
A top 20ish hitter in baseball wouldn't start over someone who's 37% worse than the avg big leaguer after a red hot 2-3 week streak?
Cmon man.
That's all fine and well in the regular season. In the playoffs, when you get 2 guys on base in a 1-1 tie in the 7th inning, I don't care how well your catcher handles the pitchers if he's walking up to the dish batting .180. The other guy can read the scouting report just as well.helloimustbegoing said:It's got nothing to do with hitting and everything to do with handling the pitchers. They have to have so much rapport and the pitcher has to trust the catcher enormously to be really great out there. It's like trading for the 15 point a night 7 footer who sits on the perimeter shooting threes and benching your guy who averages 12 boards and 3 blocks a game.Farmer1906 said:ttha_aggie_09 said:
Machete isn't going to be the backup, even if we get Contreras.
A top 20ish hitter in baseball wouldn't start over someone who's 37% worse than the avg big leaguer after a red hot 2-3 week streak?
Cmon man.
If you went in the Astros club house and said who is the Team MVP, Martin wouldn't win, but I guarantee you he'd be top 5.
Beat40 said:Farmer1906 said:ttha_aggie_09 said:
Machete isn't going to be the backup, even if we get Contreras.
A top 20ish hitter in baseball wouldn't start over someone who's 37% worse than the avg big leaguer after a red hot 2-3 week streak?
Cmon man.
Let's say the trade does happen, but it's an 8/31 trade. Does he still start over Maldy at that point where Maldy has caught 80% of the season?
In my opinion, I don't think so. I think the only way he starts, as catcher, is if the trade happens before the beginning of August.
If this hand issue with Yordan continues and Brantley doesn't return, I am not sure now much Contreras would start at all as catcher. I personally feel the Astros are essentially targeting him to DH and catch maybe 2 games a week.
Mathguy64 said:
Machete is slashing .240/.309/.580 in 17 games in July with 7 R, 11RBI and 5 HR. Yes it's a smaller sample size of 17 games but it's also 50 ABs. It's not super small.
Will it continue? Who knows. The eye test says he is making better contact and he looks to have changed his stance a bit.
I wonder if this trend would cause Click to re-evaluate looking for a backup this season. I guess the question is how much are you willing to expend for what would be a backup catcher? I'm with Bearkat. The staff and players have openly supported Machete's work and prep before games.
I know he's getting up there in age, but I'd still like to see Bench in the starting lineup.Farmer1906 said:
How sexy would this be?
Altuve
Tucker
Bregman
Alvarez
Contreras
Bell
Pena
Brantley
Meyers
Bench
Diaz
Gurriel
McCormick
Maldonado
Tell me that lineup wouldn't give up a ridiculous edge. Go all in. It wouldn't even cost THAT much to make it happen.
