RO519 said:
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bearkatag15 said:
Keuchel with some words about the upcoming series in Houston and some not so nice comments about Lunhow.
Coming from a place of having someone close to me who worked in the front office closely with Luhnow, it's really not shocking to see how people who actually interacted with the guy seem to feel about him.
There wasn't a lot of "poor Jeff" from rank-and-file Astros employees when he was dismissed...there also wasn't a lot of concern that the organization would fall apart; they were actually excited about the prospect of credit being given where it was due instead of glory hounded by him.
Credit always goes to the leader because they are the ones that ultimately make the decisions. These people sound like they have sour grapes.
I'd imagine the comments being made are more about credit within the organization. It should be expected the leader gets praise outside of the organization. A good leader internally recognizes those who've helped make them successful and lets upper management know as well.
No idea if Lunhow did this or not.
Yep...not sour grapes by those people.
It's hilarious to see people on this thread so defensive of Luhnow when the guy would basically think they were uneducated rubes.
Unless you got your degree from an Ivy League institution, the guy had absolutely no use for your opinions or ideas. He established a system where he rewarded opportunists with the right background and disregarded those without to the organization's detriment.
It's how you wind-up with assistant GMs who essentially lit the match to make your organization an easy target to burn down by baseball writers...simply b/c he (Brandon Taubman) went to Cornell.
THAT is the exact vibe that he apparently put off too...he was just a symptom of the bigger problem for the organization under Luhnow.
All of the guys behind the system that found/developed the core of this roster left Luhnow and almost none of them were on pleasant terms, nor are they even on speaking terms.
Luhnow may have been a net positive for the organization, but given enough time he would've burned the whole thing down through front office toxicity. The organization was already headed that direction with PR headache after PR headache leading up to the "scandal."
The guy will likely never work in baseball again and I don't know what to tell you if you think it's b/c he was the GM of a successful team that was stealing signs when the people who would otherwise hire him know damn well that they were doing the same.