I wonder if JV would consider doing what John Smoltz did and that's come back and work in relief? One inning is a lot less wear and tear than 9. And a reliever with 3 quality ++ pitches is like a unicorn.

But it's also a whole lot of new pressure on the arm. No normal routine. Won't know when his # will be called. Have to pitch back to back days. Not saying it can't be done but I'm not sure it's less stress in the arm.

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Now, they "want to talk about an extension" with Correa. Don't see much evidence, but I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

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What does this mean?

Click said now that they are in camp, they will start talks with him. Do you think he is lying and they really don't want to talk to him about an extension?

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My point is this is all talk we've heard before, and it means nothing until we see the Astros actually give someone a big multi-year (more than 2) extension in the last year of their contract. We haven't seen it happen under Lunhow, and the way Click/Crane handled Springer (not even trying) leaves a bad taste in my mouth. In the words of Jerry Maguire, "show me the money".

Like I said, I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but the track record says there won't be an extension.

So you don't think they are going to try to sign him? Click blowing smoke up our butts? Simple question.

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So you don't think they are going to try to sign him? Click blowing smoke up our butts? Simple question.

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I hope they do try to sign him. Cynical me thinks they'll make a lowball offer just so they can claim they tried, when in reality their hearts weren't in it.

This is the big misconception with fans.

Their hearts have nothing to do with it. If they don't try then it's because it didn't make sense and were priced out of the market.

Hearts are for us fans. Front offices don't (or at least shouldn't) make decisions with their hearts.

"their hearts weren't in it" was probably the wrong way to phrase it. What I meant was are they actually intending to keep him around, or are they just going through the motions to put on a show for the fans? I don't know the answer to that.

I get it's a business. I certainly have seen plenty of people in my line of work get replaced with younger, cheaper, and less experienced versions of themselves. It sucks to see it happen, but like I said, I hope they can work something out.

I know talk is just talk, but at least Correa is saying he wants to be in Houston long term. The Astros need to make it happen.

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I know talk is just talk, but at least Correa is saying he wants to be in Houston long term. The Astros need to make it happen.

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I wonder if the Astros gave him a really high annual average on a shorter contract if he'd take it

Not too much shorter, but not some 8+ year contract. Maybe 6/180 or something.

I know, not in his best interest, but I feel like that's the only thing we'd be able to extend

Why would that be all we'd be able to offer?

Without a doubt. It was a soul crushing moment. I've never heard Minute Maid that quiet before and it was a sell out crowd. The stadium went from deafeningly loud to deafeningly silent in a heart beat.

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Without a doubt. It was a soul crushing moment. I've never heard Minute Maid that quiet before and it was a sell out crowd. The stadium went from deafeningly loud to deafeningly silent in a heart beat.

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I was about 12 at the time, so I don't remember it as much. I remember game 6 a lot more than that one.

My memories from that postseason are pretty much the crazy 18 inning game in the NLDS and then game 6 in STL.

Yordan hit one oppo taco on the track out wide of the pump. Maybe the most impressive thing I have seen.

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Without a doubt. It was a soul crushing moment. I've never heard Minute Maid that quiet before and it was a sell out crowd. The stadium went from deafeningly loud to deafeningly silent in a heart beat.

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I witnessed the Juan Soto homerun during game 6 of the 2019 WS in person. That was pretty devastating as well.

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Howie Kendrick game 7. I was down the foul line where he hit it. Brutal
I was looking down at Cole in the dugout and it was just 3 innings of suck after that.

Dang now I'm mad all over again

Pretty sure he put one deep in the party deck same game.

I just want Astros baseball back.

I'm tires of sitting on the couch staring at the tv wondering WTF I'm gonna watch every night.

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Why would that be all we'd be able to offer?

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When is the last time the Astros offered a player 200 million dollars or more?

The reality is that we aren't a team in the east or west coast, and we aren't dumb with our money.

As much as I like Correa, he does have a history of injury issues and is a fairy big risk if you sign him to a long deal

The most memorable:

Walkoff against Tampa.
11th inning walkoff against NYY
And Game 5 of WS in 2017.

That Oakland 3 run bomb mid chest height was a thing of beauty too

That was a fun explosive inning

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Why would that be all we'd be able to offer?

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When is the last time the Astros offered a player 200 million dollars or more?

The reality is that we aren't a team in the east or west coast, and we aren't dumb with our money.

As much as I like Correa, he does have a history of injury issues and is a fairy big risk if you sign him to a long deal

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To be fair there has only ever been 21 contracts in MLB history that have topped 200 M.

I think Jim Crane shown shown he's absolutely willing to spend money to win. Over the last 4 years our payroll has ranked 9th, 8th, 5th, & 5th. Right now we only have about 75M on the books for 2022. That puts us 11th with only ~7 roster spots to fill.

100% agree with you on the risk elevated with the injury history. That's why this year could be very important. Correa shows he can play at a high level for 150+ games, then his price skyrockets.

10 of those have been in the last two years. That's just what it costs now for top tier young talent.

A lot of them have been extensions before they hit the market too. Don't act like Crane wouldnt pay Trout 300 M.

I believe we'll have a long term Correa deal done at some point . Would be better to do it before the regular season begins and I think they will.

I was excited to hear about Tucker and Bregman muscling up in the offseason. Hope that turns into more power at the plate from those guys.

My biggest concern remains centerfield and will be until proven otherwise.

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That's a lot of playoff home runs

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Brings back a lot of memories. I forgot that I was in the camera shot for the first 2 Correa home runs against KC; I was just sitting in the wrong section of the Crawford Boxes.