CFTXAG10 said:
Convenient timing to start rumors of playoff expansion the same day this guy files suit against the Astros
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Because of his age, experience and projection, there is a belief that Leon would be considered a top 5 pick if he were subject to the Draft. There is a case to be made that he would be the No. 1 overall selection because he is the age of a college junior.
Leon would be a valuable addition to the franchise if the deal comes to fruition. The Astros will not have a pick in the first or second round of the next two Drafts as part of the penalty for the sign-stealing investigation by Major League Baseball. They were not penalized on the international front.
As for Leon, he sported a .371 batting average with 15 home runs, a 1.220 OPS and seven stolen bases in 33 games for Mayabeque in Serie Nacional, Cuba's top professional league, in 2018. He was named to the 2018 Serie Nacional All-Star Game.
Werdspadilly said:
Can't say I ever thought I'd agree with him on anything, but here we are.
Yea, I'm guessing there's a pretty strict gag order on our players. It still seems possible to me that the commissioner agreed to leave a few things out of the report in exchange for full Astros cooperation (ie not calling out other teams) but who knows. Spring training starts next week so I guess we'll find out soon enough.iBrad said:
In a way, I wish we had a Bauer-like player on our team that would open up about the sign stealing scandal and call out other teams, particularly those that we knew were doing it because we signed guys from those teams. Of course, we don't know what the players were told. I'm guessing they face a heavy suspension/fine if they do anything but apologize.
iBrad said:
I wish we had Bauer
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"I was in my first year, man," former Astros pitcher Joe Musgrove, now with the Pirates, said in a Jan. 24 interview on MLB Network. "Along with (Alex) Bregman and a lot of those guys, and in your first year in the big leagues you're around guys like Beltrn and (Brian) McCann, some big names. And I'm not going to be the pitcher to walk up and tell 'em to knock it off."
Both McCann and Beltrn played for the Yankees during the 2014, '15 and '16 seasons before joining the Astros in '17. But it was Beltrn who, according to multiple sources, told the Astros that their sign-stealing methods were "behind the times."
During the season, small groups of Astros discussed their misgivings. McCann at one point approached Beltrn and asked him to stop, two members of the 2017 team said.
"He disregarded it and steamrolled everybody," one of the team members said. "Where do you go if you're a young, impressionable player with the Astros and this guy says, 'We're doing this'? What do you do?"
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"What happened was Cora and Beltrn decided that this video room stuff Koch-Weser was doing (with Codebreaker) was just not working, inefficient, too slow," a person with direct knowledge of the investigation said. "They just had some lower-level guy put up this monitor and did it themselves."
"But it was two different things," that person continued. "The real kind of crime here was they didn't stop (in September) and the banging on the trash can was over the top compared to what happened before."
The front-office clearly had a role in developing the Astros' rule-breaking methods, and the environment in which those flourished. But the trash-can banging the sign-stealing main event originated with uniformed personnel.
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Both McCann and Beltrn played for the Yankees during the 2014, '15 and '16 seasons before joining the Astros in '17. But it was Beltrn who, according to multiple sources, told the Astros that their sign-stealing methods were "behind the times."
CFTXAG10 said:
And in Beltran's mind he probably thought he was doing the right thing if the Astros really were "behind the times" in terms of sign stealing. He has a lot of friends in the league on other teams, played for the Cardinals and Yankees prior to arriving in Houston, and has been in MLB forever. He would know.
It's not like the Yankees hired him to some vague, publicly undefined consulting role in 2019bluefire579 said:And we're still not investigating the Yankees?Quote:
Both McCann and Beltrn played for the Yankees during the 2014, '15 and '16 seasons before joining the Astros in '17. But it was Beltrn who, according to multiple sources, told the Astros that their sign-stealing methods were "behind the times."
amercer said:
The reason the Astros still take the majority of the bad press will be that the info on the Yankees and other team will be from before the commissioner said to stop.
It's been illegal to use technology in the dugout since 2001. But only for realz illegal because of the memo in 2017? Any way MLB got serious about it when they saw the Yankees not making it to the WS?amercer said:
The reason the Astros still take the majority of the bad press will be that the info on the Yankees and other team will be from before the commissioner said to stop.