aTm2004 said:

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If so, he should give her a good spankin'.

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Oh, I bet he does that anyway.

Ag_07 said:

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Gibbons has been elected 52 times in his managerial career. Good for 13th all time.

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And I'm guessing a few of those were against Arlington.

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Deluxe said:

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When opposing teams inevitably throw at Altuve/Bregman, which manager option would be mostly likely to order our pitcher to retaliate? I'm thinking Bannister.

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Yeah I saw on Twitter we need to Hire Bannister and trade for Puig so we can win all the fights.

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It's very good thought. I like the idea of bringing in some enforcers. Puig would be good depth. Maybe we could bring in Farnsworth as a bench coach too.

Sign-Stealing Around the League -SB Nation
http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2020/1/20/21070757/sign-stealing-scandal-houston-astros-yankees-red-sox-brewers-cubs-phillies-mets-dodgers-rangers-mlb

Deluxe said:

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Ag_07 said:

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Gibbons has been elected 52 times in his managerial career. Good for 13th all time.

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And I'm guessing a few of those were against Arlington.

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FTAR

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I love how Yu Darvish is questioning things, didn't we light him up in his own stadium?

We also won 2 of the 4 games in Los Angeles, I think most doyer fans forget that as well...

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Most fans of other teams see their team as squeaky clean in all of this. Especially the self-righteous *******s in NY.

dshedd41 said:

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Sign-Stealing Around the League -SB Nation
http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2020/1/20/21070757/sign-stealing-scandal-houston-astros-yankees-red-sox-brewers-cubs-phillies-mets-dodgers-rangers-mlb

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That was a good read. Too bad baseball won't punish ALL cheaters.

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I love how Yu Darvish is questioning things, didn't we light him up in his own stadium?

We also won 2 of the 4 games in Los Angeles, I think most doyer fans forget that as well...

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I know. Hell, even MLB Network was showing how he was tipping his pitches after game 7.

This is going to be the cry of all pitchers the Astros light up for the next couple of years. I hope our pitchers say the same after every away loss.

Thanks, I didn't write it,, but still an interesting article

Somebody that's on Twitter needs to blast these guys when the Astros shell them next season. Basically say......"oh, I thought they were only hitting you because they cheated. Looks like you just suck".

As self-righteous as this comes off, the fact that some players are being so vocal about this leads me to believe that electronic sign stealing was likely not being done in every club house.

Lets have some positivity on the board... some highlights from our new backup catcher.

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Its just mind-blowing how much the players and media are blatantly ignoring the facts

-This wasn't done on the road (still a great road team the last three years)
-Sign stealing is legal, doing it with electronic methods is not. Most players thought it was more of a distraction than anything
-We didn't cheat AT ALL in 2018 and 2019 and still went to the ALCS (lost against a team that was cheating) and WS (lost against a team that is mentioned for alleged cheating)

GTFO with this self-righteous, "Oh now I know why you did so good against me" bull****, we have a great lineup that would have done the same to you with or without the cheating. There is a reason we are projected for the third highest win total in baseball this coming year. Get your head out of the sand.

/rant over

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This is my biggest gripe about this. I honestly think we'd have been just as good without all this. It's being made out to be much bigger and a bigger advantage than it ever was. People love a good pile-on though.

I can't honestly say I would be acting any different than all the haters are if it was the Yankees or Dodgers that this happened to.

CFTXAG10 said:

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Its just mind-blowing how much the players and media are blatantly ignoring the facts

-This wasn't done on the road (still a great road team the last three years)
-Sign stealing is legal, doing it with electronic methods is not. Most players thought it was more of a distraction than anything
-We didn't cheat AT ALL in 2018 and 2019 and still went to the ALCS (lost against a team that was cheating) and WS (lost against a team that is mentioned for alleged cheating)

GTFO with this self-righteous, "Oh now I know why you did so good against me" bull****, we have a great lineup that would have done the same to you with or without the cheating. There is a reason we are projected for the third highest win total in baseball this coming year. Get your head out of the sand.

/rant over

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Sure are a lot of "perfect" players coming out of the woodwork. Gotta think those league-wide 4.75 ERA records will be below 2.00 now that the Houston Astros have been stripped of all their talent and ability.

There is gonna be a lot of pressure on Astros hitters to perform this year. Imagine one of them doesn't hit as many home runs this year. What do you think everyone is going to say?

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Frok said:

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There is gonna be a lot of pressure on Astros hitters to perform this year. Imagine one of them doesn't hit as many home runs this year. What do you think everyone is going to say?

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These guys are going to face ridicule unlike anything sports have ever seen. Will be booed at every away game, especially the first month of the season. Will be heckled and asked about the scandal ad nauseam by reporters and fans all year.

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Regardless of what they say, it's going to be a major distraction -- especially on the road.

Absolutely, I live in MN and it's absurd how everyone is repeating every rumor as gospel

Of course the Astros did themselves no favors by cheating the way they did, and I for one think the punishment was just and needed. MLB initiated this investigation based on allegations by a former player, and then released the findings that set off a pitch-fork mob against the Astros. They could have fined/punished the Astros and kept alot of the details out of public view (like they often do with Boston, NY, etc.).

There are PLENTY of allegations against other teams, by current and former players, and even league officials. It would be a pretty ****ty deal and grossly unfair if MLB doesn't give each allegation the "Astros style" investigation. Go in, interview people, collect evidence, release the report with names, and hand out punishment. If they don't it's complete bull**** and a clear indication that they are willing to let the Astros take complete blame.

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Of course the Astros did themselves no favors by cheating the way they did, and I for one think the punishment was just and needed. MLB initiated this investigation based on allegations by a former player, and then released the findings that set off a pitch-fork mob against the Astros. They could have fined/punished the Astros and kept alot of the details out of public view (like they often do with Boston, NY, etc.).

There are PLENTY of allegations against other teams, by current and former players, and even league officials. It would be a pretty ****ty deal and grossly unfair if MLB doesn't give each allegation the "Astros style" investigation. Go in, interview people, collect evidence, release the report with names, and hand out punishment. If they don't it's complete bull**** and a clear indication that they are willing to let the Astros take complete blame.

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You think any player will ever talk again? Do you think any management organization will encourage players to be open and honest like the Astros allegedly told their players to be?

Hell no. Everyone has seen the pitchfork mob and ruined careers. No one is saying **** moving forward. Investigations are useless at this point. Red Sox aren't gonna talk, and no one else will.