*****Official 2019/2020 Houston Astros offseason thread*****

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So nobody left to go after now right? So MLB will give the red sox a slap on the wrist and then sweep this under the rug just like the steroid era. Dodgers and yankess are loving this.
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What's amazing is you hear all these stories from these other players claiming the Dodgers Yankees Etc are doing the exact same thing and not a blip from the media
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Ags #1 said:

So nobody left to go after now right? So MLB will give the red sox a slap on the wrist and then sweep this under the rug just like the steroid era. Dodgers and yankess are loving this.

Depends on if any of them feel the need to fan the flames and go scorched earth. If Cora gets a lifetime ban, he may decide to spill it all.
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But does Cora want to be viewed in that light? Kind of like how Canseco spilled all the beans on the steriod era and seemed like baseball ostracized him that. Would the same happen to Cora even though he would be under a lifetime ban?
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Think what you want of Jessica Mendoza's commentary in the booth on ESPN, but just look how the Bay Area media tries to spin her comments.

She makes good points, basically calling Fiers a ***** for ratting out the Astros.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/athletics/jessica-mendoza-blames-mike-fiers-making-astros-scandal-public?fbclid=IwAR16AaN9NMcm-tMh8y-hCpx2cDnUJQup1Iu5Aaxpta70TvtRuTv8cPXvRYM

And for those not wanting to see what she said without giving clicks:

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Blaming the whistleblower is far too popular these days. On Thursday morning, Jessica Mendoza became the latest to join the wrong side of history.

Mendoza, a former gold medalist softball player, blamed A's pitcher Mike Fiers for the Houston Astros' sign-stealing scandal becoming public information and the way it has "hurt the game."

"Going public, yeah," Mendoza said Thursday morning on ESPN's "Golic and Wingo" when asked if she had a problem with Fiers speaking out on the Astros cheating, while with a new team. "I mean, I get it. If you're on the Oakland A's and you're with a different team, I mean, heck yeah. You better be telling your teammates, 'Look, hey, heads up when you're pitching and you hear some noises, this is what's going on.' For sure. But to go public, yeah, it didn't sit well with me.

"And honestly, it made me sad for the sport that that's how this all got found out. I mean, this wasn't something that MLB naturally investigated or that even other teams complained about because they naturally heard about and then investigations happened. It came from within. It was a player that was a part of it, that benefitted from it in the regular season when he when a part of the team.

"And when I first heard about it, it just hits you like any teammate would. It's something that you don't do. I totally get telling your future teammates, helping them win, letting people know. But to go public with it and call them out and start all of this, it's hard to swallow."
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Mike Fiers like...

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE BODIES HIT THE...FLOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRR
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At that point, what does it matter? His name is already tarnished.
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I agree but maybe he still had friendships and other relationships he isnt willing to burn because that is all he has left
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So Springer signing for 1 year mean we will spend entire year trying to get him a long term deal?

Also Tells me the clubhouse isn't looking to bail - they know they were targeted and not doing anything everyone else was doing. They are gonna play with the biggest chip on their shoulder. Time to rake!
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Springer will need to stay healthy to get long-term deal from Astros
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Beltran Mets domino falls. Now we just need a reporter to start asking some questions about his Special Adviser role with the Yankees last year.
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This was always going to be the case. We folded and basically gave him what he wanted to avoid going to arbitration. I'm not sure who would lead it without a GM anyway.
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I'm sure the next domino to fall will be Judge for his blatant use of illegal technology in the dugout during the 2019 ALCS.

Any day now.
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MAROON said:

Ideally he needs to hire the new GM and then let the GM hire the Manager. But due to the time crunch what he should do is hire Espada as an interim. Then hire the GM, who then can evaluate Espada over the season and then decide if he wants to go in a different direction or take the interim tag off.

Buck, Bruce, and Dusty will still be available next year if that is really who the new GM would want.

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A couple interesting notes from the latest Section 10 (Red Sox) podcast earlier:

-Red Sox fans are about as pissed at Fiers as we are. A's go to Fenway August 14-16.

-Passan was on with them for about 10 minutes. He said he's expecting the Red Sox to receive punishment similar to the Astros (max fine and two years of lost draft picks). Just thinks the real crime is disobeying the commissioner. He also doesn't think the MLB will conduct any further investigations unless there's media reports that can't be ignored. Sad.

Passan has been pretty plugged in with the commish office over the past few months so it's likely he's got some inside info. Just thought I'd post.
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So from MLB's perspective, "We know other teams were doing it and have been told as much by the Astros and players around the league, but unless the media makes a big deal out of it, our heads are in the sand. This isn't about fairness. It's about public perception. We've crucified our scapegoat and will be moving on unless the need to respond to additional accusations, that we are already aware of internally, arise."
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Deluxe said:

A couple interesting notes from the latest Section 10 (Red Sox) podcast earlier:

-Red Sox fans are about as pissed at Fiers as we are. A's go to Fenway August 14-16.

-Passan was on with them for about 10 minutes. He said he's expecting the Red Sox to receive punishment similar to the Astros (max fine and two years of lost draft picks). Just thinks the real crime is disobeying the commissioner. He also doesn't think the MLB will conduct any further investigations unless there's media reports that can't be ignored. Sad.

Passan has been pretty plugged in with the commish office over the past few months so it's likely he's got some inside info. Just thought I'd post.


The report says as much.
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And the media is located in both NY and LA.
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Hoping when the stuff is handed down that Barstool goes hard after the MLB. That could be a fun **** show to watch.
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iBrad said:

So from MLB's perspective, "We know other teams were doing it and have been told as much by the Astros and players around the league, but unless the media makes a big deal out of it, our heads are in the sand. This isn't about fairness. It's about public perception. We've crucified our scapegoat and will be moving on unless the need to respond to additional accusations, that we are already aware of internally, arise."
It just seems like such an inept long term strategy to me. MLB has an opportunity right now to clean it up once and for all. Instead they're just going to ride along and be reactive as more reports eventually trickle out. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but the further we get away from this, the more guys will become disgruntled with former teams, or have conscience clearing moments, or whatever the case may be, and decide to call Evan Drellich and open the lid on more allegations. This strategy just seems to unnecessarily keep the problem lingering into perpetuity.
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Beltran's niece wants to air it all out there now...
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I call bull****. No way in hell Jose Altuve of all people was cheating with a buzzer in his jersey. FOH.
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Lemme guess, she's a yankees fan?
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CFTXAG10 said:

I call bull****. No way in hell Jose Altuve of all people was cheating with a buzzer in his jersey. FOH.


I wouldn't be too sure.
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cc10106 said:

Lemme guess, she's a yankees fan?
Worse... she is a Longhorn alum that still lives in Austin
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The more I see the more I think Manfred and MLB handled this all wrong. Instead of the hardcore stance which is the polar opposite of the steroid period they could have cleaned it up by simply stating no live technology can be used and no live electronic sign information can be captured or used. Beyond that all sports use delayed stuff so just let it go. Lay out penalties going forward so that it's clear.
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I've been afraid that the Commissioner's report omitted our 2019 violations in exchange for full cooperation from Crane. Hope the buzzer stuff isn't true...
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