redline248 said:

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For the record, I feel bad for Hinch. I don't feel bad for the players that threw him under the bus.

I'm not sure I feel bad for Lunhow either.


But Mike Fiers can eat all the dicks

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Harry Stone said:

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Im sure Jim Crane was 100% ethical on his climb to becoming a billionaire

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Crane must think Luhnow and Hinch are really expendable.

because in the world of sports...you don't clean house in the middle of a championship window.

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this is why I compared him to Jerry Jones - who thought he could fire JJ and the championships would continue to flow because everyone in the front office was so damn smart.

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I'm not sure I'd agree with that. The commissioner's report notes that Crane is very hands off when it comes to baseball operations (basically the opposite of Jerry). I suspect whoever replaces Luhnow will be given the same freedoms that Luhnow had, with the exception of maybe a few extra controls to ensure rule compliance. Crane knows to delegate what he doesn't understand to people that do. Jerry doesn't.

I also think there's a different way of looking at the championship window argument. We're in the middle of ours right now and don't want to burn a year of it with interim guys. If there's an opportunity to bring in qualified candidates now, perhaps it's the right call.

Not sure if sarcastic, but I'll just leave this here....

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/sports/baseball/company-led-by-potential-astros-buyer-ran-afoul-of-law.html

n_touch said:

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W said:

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Harry Stone said:

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Im sure Jim Crane was 100% ethical on his climb to becoming a billionaire

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Crane must think Luhnow and Hinch are really expendable.

because in the world of sports...you don't clean house in the middle of a championship window.

just let the furor blow over...and then pick up where you left off

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Wait so you do it like the Patriots? What madness that is.....

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Luhnow and Hinch should serve their respective suspensions. That is fair.

but they are very good at their jobs (i.e. winning baseball games). Hold off on the quick hook

We are thinking the hook is very quick, but I am sure they had a couple days warning on this.

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Deluxe said:

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My dream manager scenario would be to give Kevin Cash a blank check and try to lure him away from Tampa. I think he's the best manager in baseball.

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The ink isn't even dry on the punishment for stealing signs, can you imagine what they will do if we steal a manager?

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Haha. I highly doubt it happens though. Supposedly Cash and Hinch are good friends.

Wonder who coaches the AL team in the ASG?

I'm guessing it's be our current manager.

Lot of players on opposing teams playing holier than thou like their ball clubs haven't done or at least tried something similar

Ag_07 said:

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Wonder who coaches the AL team in the ASG?

I'm guessing it's be our current manager.

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I'd assume Boone

Deluxe said:

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Ag_07 said:

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Wonder who coaches the AL team in the ASG?

I'm guessing it's be our current manager.

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That's the burning question on everyone's mind right now

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Since one player has to be represented form each team, do you think they are going to select an injured player as ours this year?

wangus12 said:

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Lot of players on opposing teams playing holier than thou like their ball clubs haven't done or at least tried something similar

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Eh, F'em. They're cool with all kinds of cheating.

1996 said:

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Not sure if sarcastic, but I'll just leave this here....

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/sports/baseball/company-led-by-potential-astros-buyer-ran-afoul-of-law.html

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yes, i was being sarcastic

Who are the manager candidates?

I would assume Espada in the interim but hopefully we can start a search soon, before the Red Sox do. I imagine it will be a slow-moving search.

Biggie/Bagwell co-managers has a nice ring

Was not impressed with biggio at sth

Cen-Tex said:

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Biggie/Bagwell co-managers has a nice ring

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I think they're both too intense and take the game too seriously to manage today's players.

How about Dierker for one year?

Can someone clarify: was this activity only taking place for home games?

If it's already been made clear that Cora was essentially the brains behind this, why wasn't a penalty already handed out to him? Why does it matter what comes of the red sox investigation?

What worries me is this setting up for a mild slap on the wrist or nothing if they are able to hide the cheating since Cora arrived in Boston. But he should still be held accountable for what he did in Houston. Without him it sounds like none of this happens, and we are just looking forward to another season of Astros baseball right now.

My understanding is yes.

3B Paul 97 said:

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Can someone clarify: was this activity only taking place for home games?

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Yes.

And they hit just as well on the road.

And they didn't stop because they got caught, they stopped because the players decided it didn't work.

Trying to cheat is still wrong, even if it doesn't help.