Agnzona said:

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You never have enough pitching in the playoffs. We got to stop letting good pitchers leave. Corea, Reddick, Brantley are the replacement parts not starting pitching.

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Dirty Mike and the Boys said:

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Nuke LaLoosh said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Look at all the people come out and make this claim after the fact.

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Can't make that claim about all of us.

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You're the type that would rather lose and be right. Gfy.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Look at all the people come out and make this claim after the fact.

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Ag13 said:

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gigemJTH12 said:

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How could anyone disagree with the move to go with JV???

You trust a guy with no experience more? And if he only goes 4-5 innings you're throwing 35 anyways. Because who else are you going to throw?? Also gives you Cole at home game 5 which is virtually an unstoppable force right now. Blows my mind anyone could have an issue with this.

We have 1 and 2 in the Cy young race. Make TB beat them back to back.

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My issues with it:
1) Pitching on short rest. JV is a workhorse but this is a total change of schedule. How long is he going to go? If it's just six innings, then you are relying on pitchers not named Justin Verlander for 1/3 of the game.
2) We are good enough to win the game tomorrow without JV pitching. And if we lose, then, we have him pitching at home in game 5 on full rest. Also a bit of an unstoppable force.
3) If this fails (whether because of JV, or because of the offense being non-existant, or because bullpen messes it up), then Cole is obviously pitching game 5. ALCS rotation then becomes funky. Would have to think ALCS rotation would become Greinke, Verlander, Cole. Would much prefer JV and Cole pitching the home games.
4) It's not an elimination game. Why pull out all the stops now? If this was a game 5/game 7 situation then throw the kitchen sink at the game.

Probably my BAS shining through, but, it just seems like the upside isn't there when JV (a more rested version) would be starting game 5 anyways.

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Mr.Bond said:

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Not asking a guy to start on short rest for the first time in his career. Urquidy was the clear option to me. Save Verlander for a possible game 5 if necessary at a place we dominate.


All a ****ing moot point now

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Kashchei said:

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Agnzona said:

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You never have enough pitching in the playoffs. We got to stop letting good pitchers leave. Corea, Reddick, Brantley are the replacement parts not starting pitching.

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CFM and Cole is next.
Who did we let walk besides Keuchel?

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Mr.Bond said:

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Not asking a guy to start on short rest for the first time in his career. Urquidy was the clear option to me. Save Verlander for a possible game 5 if necessary at a place we dominate.


All a ****ing moot point now

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Engine10 said:

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Current board mood. We're gonna feel real silly later when we pull this out

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txislandag86 said:

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Charlie Morton had a 25 pitch 1st inning yesterday

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Ag13 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Look at all the people come out and make this claim after the fact.

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My post from yesterday following announcement. I'm sad that this is happening. But it was a bad decision.

Ag13 said:

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gigemJTH12 said:

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How could anyone disagree with the move to go with JV???

You trust a guy with no experience more? And if he only goes 4-5 innings you're throwing 35 anyways. Because who else are you going to throw?? Also gives you Cole at home game 5 which is virtually an unstoppable force right now. Blows my mind anyone could have an issue with this.

We have 1 and 2 in the Cy young race. Make TB beat them back to back.

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My issues with it:
1) Pitching on short rest. JV is a workhorse but this is a total change of schedule. How long is he going to go? If it's just six innings, then you are relying on pitchers not named Justin Verlander for 1/3 of the game.
2) We are good enough to win the game tomorrow without JV pitching. And if we lose, then, we have him pitching at home in game 5 on full rest. Also a bit of an unstoppable force.
3) If this fails (whether because of JV, or because of the offense being non-existant, or because bullpen messes it up), then Cole is obviously pitching game 5. ALCS rotation then becomes funky. Would have to think ALCS rotation would become Greinke, Verlander, Cole. Would much prefer JV and Cole pitching the home games.
4) It's not an elimination game. Why pull out all the stops now? If this was a game 5/game 7 situation then throw the kitchen sink at the game.

Probably my BAS shining through, but, it just seems like the upside isn't there when JV (a more rested version) would be starting game 5 anyways.

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Bregxit said:

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Nuke LaLoosh said:

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Dirty Mike and the Boys said:

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Nuke LaLoosh said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Look at all the people come out and make this claim after the fact.

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Can't make that claim about all of us.

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You're the type that would rather lose and be right. Gfy.

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That's the absolute dumbest fkn thing I've ever heard.

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If that's the case you don't have much introspection do you?

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Mr.Bond said:

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Not asking a guy to start on short rest for the first time in his career. Urquidy was the clear option to me. Save Verlander for a possible game 5 if necessary at a place we dominate.


All a ****ing moot point now

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Burn-It said:

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Not panicking, but now that we know JV is not going to be effective... sit him now & bring out Uriquidez (sp?). Let JV get full rest for ALCS.

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Bregxit said:

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Nuke LaLoosh said:

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Dirty Mike and the Boys said:

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Nuke LaLoosh said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Look at all the people come out and make this claim after the fact.

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Can't make that claim about all of us.

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You're the type that would rather lose and be right. Gfy.

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That's the absolute dumbest fkn thing I've ever heard.

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If that's the case you don't have much introspection do you?

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