***** Official Houston Astros 2019 Season Thread *****

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Any idea what the ramifications are of calling up Tucker now instead of waiting until 9/1? Like is there a service time/arbitration issue? Or do we lose an option? Would be interesting to know all the decision factors.


The only one I know is if they wait until 9/1 then they can't have him on the playoff roster. Thus I would make sure to get him up earlier just in case he comes up and hits well.

However my guess is they go with Straw today since he can play the infield. If Diaz wasn't also out then I think Tucker would have had a better shot.

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Frok said:

Deluxe said:

Any idea what the ramifications are of calling up Tucker now instead of waiting until 9/1? Like is there a service time/arbitration issue? Or do we lose an option? Would be interesting to know all the decision factors.


The only one I know is if they wait until 9/1 then they can't have him on the playoff roster. Thus I would make sure to get him up earlier just in case he comes up and hits well.

However my guess is they go with Straw today since he can play the infield. If Diaz wasn't also out then I think Tucker would have had a better shot.


this is not inline with what Lunhow said on 790 this morning unless I misheard something while I was working. He basically said that Tucker will finish the minor league season and then possibly called up in September then he and Hinch would decide on the playoff roster when the series are set.
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Maybe my understanding is not correct. But that definitely sounds like it's not Tucker time yet.
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Frok said:

Deluxe said:

Any idea what the ramifications are of calling up Tucker now instead of waiting until 9/1? Like is there a service time/arbitration issue? Or do we lose an option? Would be interesting to know all the decision factors.


The only one I know is if they wait until 9/1 then they can't have him on the playoff roster. Thus I would make sure to get him up earlier just in case he comes up and hits well.

However my guess is they go with Straw today since he can play the infield. If Diaz wasn't also out then I think Tucker would have had a better shot.




Not true. If this was the case, you would essentially be setting your playoff roster on August 31.

The rule is the player just has to be in the organization as of September 1. In the old days of waiver trades, that's why you had to complete the Verlander deal by midnight to have him eligible for the playoffs. I believe you could have theoretically made that same trade the next day but then JV couldn't have pitched in the playoffs.

So, now the rule would just keep you from signing a free agent after September 1 if you wanted him to be eligible for the playoffs

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Sneed and Straw called up...
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I really am stumped at the whole Tucker situation. What good is he doing us finishing out the MiLB season?

They obviously like him because they've held on to him so get his ass up here and see what he can do.

He's finally got an opportunity with the recent injuries and Reddick struggles and they're still adamant at keeping in AAA. Is he in the doghouse or something?
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$$$$ and years of arbitration being worth more than 20 extra games this season when we will cruise to the division title
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Speculating here, it seems the organization has a good feeling that they know what they've got in Tucker and they would rather get at bats for Reddick and Marisnick to get them hot for the playoff run. In other words, they don't want to take at bats from Reddick and Marisnick for the Tucker experiment.
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Teddy Perkins said:

Speculating here, it seems the organization has a good feeling that they know what they've got in Tucker and they would rather get at bats for Reddick and Marisnick to get them hot for the playoff run. In other words, they don't want to take at bats from Reddick and Marisnick for the Tucker experiment.


Whatever reddick is doing sucks right now
Give him the month of sept off and go through a simulated training camp and bring back March/April reddick for the playoffs
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The Sneed yo-yo continues
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Reddick needs to open both of his eyes
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I could be mistaken but I thought those ramifications had already passed.

Like a long time ago. Thought that's why the waited so long until calling Yordan up.
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From Kaplan's Athletic article today on call-ups.

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Kyle Tucker, LF/RF/1B

After spending the entire season in Triple A, Tucker will finally return to the majors in September. He could get a decent amount of playing time, too, especially if Josh Reddick's post-June struggles persist.
Tucker entered Tuesday batting .269/.355/.568 in Triple A this season, a line that stands out from the Pacific Coast League average only because of his slugging. He has 32 home runs, three triples and 25 doubles. Presuming the Astros carry their usual 14 position players in the ALDS, Tucker will have a chance to win the last bench spot for the best-of-five postseason round.


Didn't know this.

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This is the last season teams can carry as many as 40 players on their active rosters in September. Beginning next season, the limit will be 28 players on an active roster in September. Additionally, the active roster limit in every other month, including the postseason, will increase from 25 to 26.
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there's quite a few teams that get no where near the 40 man limit in September.
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Ag_07 said:

I could be mistaken but I thought those ramifications had already passed.

Like a long time ago. Thought that's why the waited so long until calling Yordan up.
That's what I thought too. Still not exactly sure what the difference is between calling up Tucker now vs 9/1 in terms of his service time, arb years, options, etc (assuming there is a difference).
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I like that new rule.

I always thought it was odd to play 5 months with 25 players then the last month (when teams are making their last push for playoff spots) you get 40.

Just didn't seem right to change the rules for one month of the season. 28 seems a little more reasonable though.
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checking in with Charlie (13-5, 2.77)...

Morton has regained the ERA lead in the American League. He's pitching tonight, so that sets up a potential JV vs. Morton matchup at MMP next Tuesday
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BMX Bandit said:




Yahoo sports app now shows -565

Crazy
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CoachRTM said:

BMX Bandit said:




Yahoo sports app now shows -565

Crazy


Last time all this betting line **** started we went on a five game skid. Just sayin'.
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Ag_07 said:

I like that new rule.

I always thought it was odd to play 5 months with 25 players then the last month (when teams are making their last push for playoff spots) you get 40.

Just didn't seem right to change the rules for one month of the season. 28 seems a little more reasonable though.

I couldn't remember whether that rule started this season or next. It's a good change. September games are brutal with pitching changes after every batter.
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It just never made any sense.

Hey lets play 132 games by these rules and the last 30 we'll change it up and play by these rules.
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Hoping Yordon gets to 20 tonight. Will be interesting to see if the Tiger's pitchers actually give him anything to hit.
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Beat40 said:

Hoping Yordon gets to 20 tonight. Will be interesting to see if the Tiger's pitchers actually give him anything to hit.

Your daily dose of Yordan hype:
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/8/21/20826069/houston-astros-yordan-alvarez

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Speaking of, just FYI you can buy the Air Yordan shirt from Breaking T in the Union Station team store at the game. Picked one up the other night. Great shirt!
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Sucks he's coming all the way from Atlanta to see Reddick ride the pine.
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W said:

checking in with Charlie (13-5, 2.77)...

Morton has regained the ERA lead in the American League. He's pitching tonight, so that sets up a potential JV vs. Morton matchup at MMP next Tuesday
Verlander is now the AL ERA leader after Morton had some issues with the White Sox today.
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

W said:

checking in with Charlie (13-5, 2.77)...

Morton has regained the ERA lead in the American League. He's pitching tonight, so that sets up a potential JV vs. Morton matchup at MMP next Tuesday
Verlander is now the AL ERA leader after Morton had some issues with the White Sox today.
He threw against the Mariners
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The Sept 1 thing for the playoff roster is not a rule
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expresswrittenconsent said:

Beat40 said:

Hoping Yordon gets to 20 tonight. Will be interesting to see if the Tiger's pitchers actually give him anything to hit.

Your daily dose of Yordan hype:
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/8/21/20826069/houston-astros-yordan-alvarez

Interesting article. He notes Yordan's plate discipline but also says that he has "pedestrian" bat control. I guess that is based on his relatively high strike outs but pedestrian doesn't pass the eye test in my opinion. Heck he's seeing big league pitching for the first time and is hitting .333


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From the Ringer article:

"lvarez recognizes breaking pitches well and has a good feel for the strike zone; the rookie has faced 17 3-0 counts in his career, in which he's drawn 15 walks and hit two home runs for a literally perfect 1.000/1.000/4.000 slash line. "
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6-9... yikes
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