***** Official Houston Astros 2019 Season Thread *****

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Why trade for a near 5.0 ERA pitcher??
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AggiEE said:

Why trade for a near 5.0 ERA pitcher??


Verlander, Morton and Cole were having rough years before we traded for them too
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tjholley16 said:

AggiEE said:

Why trade for a near 5.0 ERA pitcher??


Verlander, Morton and Cole were having rough years before we traded for them too


That bad though?
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AggiEE said:

tjholley16 said:

AggiEE said:

Why trade for a near 5.0 ERA pitcher??


Verlander, Morton and Cole were having rough years before we traded for them too


That bad though?


Cole and Morton were both over 4.00 the year before. Morton was at 4.82 and Cole was at 4.26

If Lunhow gets them ... then I trust him given his track record on pitchers
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tjholley16 said:

AggiEE said:

tjholley16 said:

AggiEE said:

Why trade for a near 5.0 ERA pitcher??


Verlander, Morton and Cole were having rough years before we traded for them too


That bad though?


Cole and Morton were both over 4.00 the year before. Morton was at 4.82 and Cole was at 4.26

If Lunhow gets them ... then I trust him given his track record on pitchers


Yeah it's just a huge risk for such a late season acquisition to count on for the playoffs. Perhaps it's better than our current alternatives.

Zack Wheeler has been all over the place.
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Ray has 2 years of control. His ERA is 3.91. His FIP is 4.26 (not good) but his xFIP is 3.68 (much better). His K/9 is 12.07 (really good) but his BB/9 is 4.05 (really not good). He's not predominantly a fly ball or ground ball pitcher but his HR/FB% is 20%.

He walks a lot of guys and when its in the air it tends to go a long way. Thats why his FIP is up and his xFIP is down. Stop the walks and you go a long way to fixing him.
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mathguy86 said:

Ray has 2 years of control. His ERA is 3.91. His FIP is 4.26 (not good) but his xFIP is 3.68 (much better). His K/9 is 12.07 (really good) but his BB/9 is 4.05 (really not good). He's not predominantly a fly ball or ground ball pitcher but his HR/FB% is 20%.

He walks a lot of guys and when its in the air it tends to go a long way. Thats why his FIP is up and his xFIP is down. Stop the walks and you go a long way to fixing him.


Ray looks a lot better than Wheeler to me
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Disagree. Wheeer should be cheaper and I think has much more upside.
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Sounds like Brad Peacock better come back healthy and better than ever
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Wheeler is a rental. ERA 4.71, FIP 3.65, xFIP 3.84. K/9 9.94, BB/9 2.46. Slightly more of a GB pitcher His HR/FB% is 13.6% so he's not giving up the HR nearly as much. Both he and Ray have WHIP in the 1.30 range.

Rental off the IL and given what the Mets did yesterday who knows what insane price they will want.
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Jason Vargas is close to being dealt.
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bearkatag15 said:

Jason Vargas is close to being dealt.
Isn't he the nutcase who tried to fight a reporter earlier this season?
Edit: Yep https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/06/new-york-mets-jason-vargas-mickey-callaway-fight-reporter
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bearkatag15 said:

Jason Vargas is close to being dealt.


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bearkatag15 said:

Jason Vargas is close to being dealt.
He's been traded to Philadelphia about 2 minutes ago.
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Live look at the Mets front office:


mathguy86
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That's a bold strategy, Cotton.
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EastCoastAgNc said:



Live look at the Mets front office:





More like this...

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Luhnow - "Get Ed Wade on the phone"
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A few thoughts on how to quickly improve Wheeler.

Throw the curve more. It's his best pitcher statically and he only throws it 10-11% of the time.

Throw the sinker less. He's thrown it more this year than ever before and it's not a great pitch based on how it's hit.

Locate the four seamer up in the zone. It seems like Storm immediately gets his guys to throw the high heater. Based on the map he leaves it over the heat of the plate too often.

Based on velocity & movement baseball vacant compares him to 18 & 19 Gerrit Cole & 18 DeGrom. If that doesn't wow you then idk what will.
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Welp, I can stop reading this thread for the day.
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In Denver for work and scored a 2nd row club level ticket for Rockies vs Dodgers tonight. Maybe I'll get a Tyler White appearance
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Ready for some Astros movement
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suburban cowboy said:

Ready for some Astros movement


I get that after every win
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Farmer1906 said:

A few thoughts on how to quickly improve Wheeler.

Throw the curve more. It's his best pitcher statically and he only throws it 10-11% of the time.

Throw the sinker less. He's thrown it more this year than ever before and it's not a great pitch based on how it's hit.

Locate the four seamer up in the zone. It seems like Storm immediately gets his guys to throw the high heater. Based on the map he leaves it over the heat of the plate too often.

Based on velocity & movement baseball vacant compares him to 18 & 19 Gerrit Cole & 18 DeGrom. If that doesn't wow you then idk what will.


The Astros have had several pitchers in the past ditch their sinker with great results (McHugh and Cole come to mind immediately)
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Maybe Wheeler could be for us what Eovaldi was to the Red Sox last year
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At Great Divide Brewery taproom near Coors field wearing my Astros WS Championship hat and a bunch of Dodger fans walked in... I feel like the least popular person in the room and I love it
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bearkatag15 said:

At Great Divide Brewery taproom near Coors field wearing my Astros WS Championship hat and a bunch of Dodger fans walked in... I feel like the least popular person in the room and I love it
You should tell them that Tubbie was your favorite player and that they absolutely stole him. Encourage them to chant his name and root for him to play 1B more.

We need them to lose more for home field advantage.
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I asked one how that Josh Fields for Yordan trade was going for them... I just got a blank stare
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Braves game on here at the gym and just caught my first glimpse of Keuchel in their uniform and it weirded me out.
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Is home field in WS based on record, now? No more All Star game winner?
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redline248 said:

Is home field in WS based on record, now? No more All Star game winner?


Correct