.iBrad said:
Astros have hit the ball better than the Angels this game. Just not timely with them or lucky with where they're going.
Thinking like that is how you close your window of opportunity quickly.Ag_07 said:Farmer1906 said:A damn good one.the last of the bohemians said:
So again, what kind of pitcher can the astros get for tucker? Let's not pretend that is not the bait.
Who do you plan on starting in the OF in 2021 and after?
That's 3 years away. We have time to figure that out.
We have 2 weeks to find pitching.
Farmer1906 said:Thinking like that is how you close your window of opportunity quickly.Ag_07 said:Farmer1906 said:A damn good one.the last of the bohemians said:
So again, what kind of pitcher can the astros get for tucker? Let's not pretend that is not the bait.
Who do you plan on starting in the OF in 2021 and after?
That's 3 years away. We have time to figure that out.
We have 2 weeks to find pitching.
The payroll is going to stay up just to keep most (not all) of our core. We need to continue to backfill with homegrown players.
I am not saying Tucker is untradable, especially with Yordan now, but fans seem to have knee jerk reactions when things aren't going perfectly.
agproducer said:
What a disaster. My plane just landed and I turned in the game. What the hell happened?
Does pitching win championships?Beat40 said:Farmer1906 said:Thinking like that is how you close your window of opportunity quickly.Ag_07 said:Farmer1906 said:A damn good one.the last of the bohemians said:
So again, what kind of pitcher can the astros get for tucker? Let's not pretend that is not the bait.
Who do you plan on starting in the OF in 2021 and after?
That's 3 years away. We have time to figure that out.
We have 2 weeks to find pitching.
The payroll is going to stay up just to keep most (not all) of our core. We need to continue to backfill with homegrown players.
I am not saying Tucker is untradable, especially with Yordan now, but fans seem to have knee jerk reactions when things aren't going perfectly.
But I also don't disagree with them in regards to this season. Pitching wins championships. I think the post season rotation is pretty good with JV, Cole, Miley, and #4, but if you could solidify that by including Tucker for a guy with control, I'd do it in a heartbeat given the pitching situation next year.
You do have to evaluate it fairly year to year.
Kashchei said:Silent For Too Long said:Kashchei said:Aggie8587 said:
That's ballgame. Of course it's Pujols too.
Wake the **** up Luhnow and do something
Don't question Lunhow. He's infallible around here...
This has been explained to yall a hundred times by now. Nothing is going to happen till the deadline. Period.
We are just going to have to roll with a difficult situation at the 4 and 5 till then. It sucks, but that's the situation, and JL cant just magically make it not reality.
At this rate we'll be looking up at the A's and maybe even the Rangers by then
Ultimately, yes, I think it does. The Red Sox also beat us last year because their starting pitching was really good in that series. The pitching has to be able to keep you in the game until you can get the timely hits.Farmer1906 said:Does pitching win championships?Beat40 said:Farmer1906 said:Thinking like that is how you close your window of opportunity quickly.Ag_07 said:Farmer1906 said:A damn good one.the last of the bohemians said:
So again, what kind of pitcher can the astros get for tucker? Let's not pretend that is not the bait.
Who do you plan on starting in the OF in 2021 and after?
That's 3 years away. We have time to figure that out.
We have 2 weeks to find pitching.
The payroll is going to stay up just to keep most (not all) of our core. We need to continue to backfill with homegrown players.
I am not saying Tucker is untradable, especially with Yordan now, but fans seem to have knee jerk reactions when things aren't going perfectly.
But I also don't disagree with them in regards to this season. Pitching wins championships. I think the post season rotation is pretty good with JV, Cole, Miley, and #4, but if you could solidify that by including Tucker for a guy with control, I'd do it in a heartbeat given the pitching situation next year.
You do have to evaluate it fairly year to year.
We had better pitching than the Red Sox last year and the Indians, Red Sox, & Yankees had better pitching than us in 2017.
With as high scoring as the WS has been, I'd say offense is more important.
Farmer1906 said:
It absolutely is worrisome. We've negated some of the wear issues by bringing up a bunch of AAA types to burn innings, but I feel like tired arms showed up in 17 and 18 in the postseason.
I've been saying all along we need to get a 2/3 type and I would be willing to send Tucker away for it, but its going to need to be a big return with a lot of control.
We have (had?) the 3rd best ERA in the AL before tonight. How many contenders have 2 Cy Young candidates and 2 top 10 relievers in baseball? Sure they may have the edge in 4/5, but that doesn't decide many October series.Wabs said:
We need a SP and probably 2 bullpen guys if we expect to be in the hunt for a WS. Pitching does win championships. Do you have to have the absolute #1 pitching? No, but no way the Astros get to the WS without significantly upgrading the staff.
Farmer1906 said:We have (had?) the 3rd best ERA in the AL before tonight. How many contenders have 2 Cy Young candidates and 2 top 10 relievers in baseball? Sure they may have the edge in 4/5, but that doesn't decide many October series.Wabs said:
We need a SP and probably 2 bullpen guys if we expect to be in the hunt for a WS. Pitching does win championships. Do you have to have the absolute #1 pitching? No, but no way the Astros get to the WS without significantly upgrading the staff.
We could go all-in on deGrom, Thor, Hand, Stroman, and Madbum and it wouldn't guarantee a WS.Wabs said:Farmer1906 said:
It absolutely is worrisome. We've negated some of the wear issues by bringing up a bunch of AAA types to burn innings, but I feel like tired arms showed up in 17 and 18 in the postseason.
I've been saying all along we need to get a 2/3 type and I would be willing to send Tucker away for it, but its going to need to be a big return with a lot of control.
Why is control needed? Let's try to win a WS this year.
How many postseason games do you expect Rondon to start? Framer to get in?Wabs said:Farmer1906 said:We have (had?) the 3rd best ERA in the AL before tonight. How many contenders have 2 Cy Young candidates and 2 top 10 relievers in baseball? Sure they may have the edge in 4/5, but that doesn't decide many October series.Wabs said:
We need a SP and probably 2 bullpen guys if we expect to be in the hunt for a WS. Pitching does win championships. Do you have to have the absolute #1 pitching? No, but no way the Astros get to the WS without significantly upgrading the staff.
I don't know. I'm just telling you this pitching will get us nowhere. Unless they decide to play best of 3 series,
Feels a lot like August 2017. Injuries, lack of energy, bad pitching and no timely inning.W said:
also of concern...the Astros have been playing average baseball for quite a while now.
barring a rally tonight...the club will be 11-14 in the last 30 days.
and the malaise really started in the home series vs. the awful Orioles (June 7-8-9) where the team slept walk thru that series
and of course the bandbox that is Yankee Stadium will negate some of the Astros' starting pitching advantageWabs said:
I don't know. I'm just telling you this pitching will get us nowhere. Unless they decide to play best of 3 series,
AggiEE said:bearkatag15 said:
Of coarse
Why the **** did we send him down after he bailed out Framber last week?
What the **** was Hinch thinking?
I do not get his logic, he's done a poor job managing as of late with a lot of boneheaded decisions