***** Official Houston Astros 2019 Season Thread *****

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Are they using an Incrediball in AAA?! Thing might bounce to the moon.
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Marvin said:

Are they using an Incrediball in AAA?! Thing might bounce to the moon.
No, just using the MLB now...but MLB will still deny the ball is juiced.
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mathguy86 said:

Yeah, he didn't do it to screw us over. He just overvalued himself. Teams calculated his contract value plus the value of the comp pick and came up with a combined value. His contract part was less than the AO he had already turned down. Plain and simple he overvalued himself. Him and Boras together.


This. He was forced to swallow a huge serving of humble pie. The only thing he has going for him is that he's getting 13 M for the rest of the year so that would average out to about 20 M for the year. If he pitches lights out, I would be he'll get a deal he wants worth about 20 M a year. A lot of risk.

Somehow Kimbrel didn't have to swallow that some humble pie. He got 45 M at 31 with back to back years of poor postseasons and some signs of decline. That's a top 5 contract.
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RR scored 26 and Alvarez didn't get a single RBI.

And who missed the XP?
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Kyle Tucker

May 3rd -> Jun 6th
.189 -> .265
.252 -> .338
.463 -> .618
.715 -> .956

That is quite the month he had.
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mathguy86 said:

RR scored 26 and Alvarez didn't get a single RBI.

And who missed the XP?


Alvarez was also walked twice last night... in the same inning

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7th inning in Las Vegas... Round Rock has sent 11 men to the plate, scored 8 runs..currently has the bases loaded and theres nobody out.

Double
Walk
Double
Walk
(Pitching change)
Single
Single
Walk
Double
Single
Single
Walk
(Pitching change)


ETA: The inning just ended after Josh Rojas' 3rd AB of the inning. The final tally for the 7th inning.... 13 runs 11 hits 4 walks 1 error
mathguy86
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And that's without Fisher, Straw, Stubbs and SuperJack. So 4/9 of their lineup. Crazy.
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astros4545 said:

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This sounds like Textbook diarrhea
he has admitted he eats taco bell the night before he pitches
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Farmer1906 said:

mathguy86 said:

Yeah, he didn't do it to screw us over. He just overvalued himself. Teams calculated his contract value plus the value of the comp pick and came up with a combined value. His contract part was less than the AO he had already turned down. Plain and simple he overvalued himself. Him and Boras together.


This. He was forced to swallow a huge serving of humble pie. The only thing he has going for him is that he's getting 13 M for the rest of the year so that would average out to about 20 M for the year. If he pitches lights out, I would be he'll get a deal he wants worth about 20 M a year. A lot of risk.

Somehow Kimbrel didn't have to swallow that some humble pie. He got 45 M at 31 with back to back years of poor postseasons and some signs of decline. That's a top 5 contract.


Cubbies are desperate for some back of the bullpen help. Their save numbers are atrocious this season.
mathguy86
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So possibilities for JV's "issues":
1. Kate broke him.
2. He had to pitch in adult Depends yesterday due to Yo Quiero Taco Bell
3. Kate broke him
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Farmer1906 said:

Kyle Tucker

May 3rd -> Jun 6th
.189 -> .265
.252 -> .338
.463 -> .618
.715 -> .956

That is quite the month he had.
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mathguy86 said:

RR scored 26 and Alvarez didn't get a single RBI.

And who missed the XP?

Username does not check out.
mathguy86
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expresswrittenconsent said:

mathguy86 said:

RR scored 26 and Alvarez didn't get a single RBI.

And who missed the XP?

Username does not check out.


3 TDs and 2 FG is 27 pts. Someone shanked an XP.
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Thats ok. We both know. I wont press it.
mathguy86
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I know. You can get 26 with 2 TDs and 4 FGs.

Either way 26 runs when half your team got promoted 10 days ago is a bunch.
Farmer1906
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Guess we promoted the wrong half.
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I'm really interested in Joshua Rojas. He was brought up to Round Rock with all of these moves. His number were great in Corpus and in limited work so far in Round Rock he has done better. Versatile infielder that can play LF as well.



EDIT: Luhnow had this to say about Rojas last week:

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A spot on the roster, or a spot on the trading block?
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...and by the way, are the ridiculous offensive numbers in the minors due to no quality pitching at that level? Or, at least not much of it?
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redline248 said:

A spot on the roster, or a spot on the trading block?
I'm assuming roster.
mathguy86
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Yes. BecAuse what this team needs is another player who can play everywhere. If only we didn't have Kemp, Diaz, now Straw and maybe even Mayfield on the team right now who are INF/OF combos and Yuli who plays literally all 4 INF spots.

I get versatility is nice. Sometimes very nice. But Lunhow is carrying it to an extreme.
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Rojas turns 25 in a few weeks. Likely he will be part of a trade at the deadline. He's seems like an easy sell to another team.
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Rojas looks a little like Kaepernick.
mathguy86
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Lunhow has a massive logjam to deal right now. He needs to figure away to flip some of these guys. The right package for Encarnacion, or maybe MadBum. Or even Greinke. I get they are good players in our system but they are jammed up in a bad way.
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I just don't see how that's a problem.

We're one of the best defensive teams in the league. As long as that holds up does it matter that everyone is playing in different spots?
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mathguy86 said:

Lunhow has a massive logjam to deal right now. He needs to figure away to flip some of these guys. The right package for Encarnacion, or maybe MadBum. Or even Greinke. I get they are good players in our system but they are jammed up in a bad way.
These guys are good, but not that good. None are really all that highly thought of as far as I can tell. We could package Mayfield, Fisher, Kemp, & Rojas and I think we'd get laughed at.
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mathguy86 said:

Lunhow has a massive logjam to deal right now. He needs to figure away to flip some of these guys. The right package for Encarnacion, or maybe MadBum. Or even Greinke. I get they are good players in our system but they are jammed up in a bad way.


Yep, we simply need to package some players to free up the numbers

When you not necessarily hit on every draft pick, but you seemingly fail to bust, it creates a log jam in the organization

Good problem to have, but need to piece some guys together
mathguy86
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Don't get me wrong. Flexibility is a good thing. Clearly Lunhow and Hinch value that. But like anything else taken to its extreme at the expense of other traits it's a little much. Is he valuing that flexibility over a pure hitter with no defensive position in Alvarez?
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redline248 said:

...and by the way, are the ridiculous offensive numbers in the minors due to no quality pitching at that level? Or, at least not much of it?


It is primarily due to the ball. Double A numbers are still in line with last year because still using minor league baseball. Triple A went to the MLB ball this year and numbers have exploded as compared to last year.
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mathguy86 said:

Don't get me wrong. Flexibility is a good thing. Clearly Lunhow and Hinch value that. But like anything else taken to its extreme at the expense of other traits it's a little much. Is he valuing that flexibility over a pure hitter with no defensive position in Alvarez?
The value for them is being able give people partial off days at DH while keeping the offensive production to keep them more fresh for stretch runs and postseason play. That's why they want the flexibility.

Bring up Alvarez and plug him solely into the DH spot and you take that way. It's against what the organization believes in, which is why I think Lunhow is serious when he says he's not bringing Yordon up until the organization thinks he can play LF or 1B decently. Whether it's the right call or not, we may not know.
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https://www.mlb.com/news/7-baseball-trades-that-make-sense

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5. Edwin Encarnacion to Astros
Encarnacion is on pace for 39 home runs and would fill one of the few holes for a team that's on its way to its third division title in a row. One of the few problem areas for Houston has been first base, where the Astros are 25th in OPS and 28th in home runs. Encarnacion would be a quick fix, and given the depth of the Houston farm system, this deal should be easy to do.

Potential trade pieces: Encarnacion is owed $20 million for this year and has a 2020 club option (with a $5 million buyout) for the same amount. As with Greinke, the prospect package would depend on how much of that salary Seattle is willing to pay. They just ate a lot of money to move Jay Bruce, and Seattle GM Jerry Dipoto is always creative, so all bets are off here once you take the Astros' top three prospects (Forrest Whitley, Kyle Tucker and Yordan Alvarez) off the table.
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rosco511 said:

redline248 said:

...and by the way, are the ridiculous offensive numbers in the minors due to no quality pitching at that level? Or, at least not much of it?


It is primarily due to the ball. Double A numbers are still in line with last year because still using minor league baseball. Triple A went to the MLB ball this year and numbers have exploded as compared to last year.


Yeah, but we don't see 26-10 games in the majors with the same ball
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mathguy86 said:

Don't get me wrong. Flexibility is a good thing. Clearly Lunhow and Hinch value that. But like anything else taken to its extreme at the expense of other traits it's a little much. Is he valuing that flexibility over a pure hitter with no defensive position in Alvarez?
As long as they continue to carry 13 pitchers, this roster will need guys that can play multiple positions.
rosco511
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Homeruns are up significantly in MLB over the last couple of seasons, and only trending significantly upward. An article was written earlier in the year showing the percentage jump in homeruns in Triple A versus the last several seasons and versus Double A. It was a significant increase, and the main variable that has changed is that Triple A started using MLB balls this season.
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