*****Official Houston Astros Offseason Thread*****

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Yah
CB Bucknor has always been my most hated personally

But he hasn't pissed me off in several years now
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Here at Specteum Field in Clearwater to watch the Astros play the Phillies. No Harper, Altuve or Bergman.

Hinch made it through the home plate meeting without getting ejected.

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Farmer1906 said:

Pahdz said:

Unpopular opinion here, but I'd put Adam Everett in at 20...only because the comments Roy Oswalt constantly made about his defense. His brilliance with the glove was overlooked in an era before advanced metrics really became a thing.


His glove wasn't overlooked. He made it and stuck around because of it. He's far from the top 20. Maybe top 50. Probably not.
Maybe the best fielding Astro SS ever, but I'm going with not definitely not top 50 - somewhere between 50-100.

SS is probably the 2nd weakest position in team history ahead of only C, but he's still far behind Correa & Thon and if he's ahead of Menke, Lugo & Tejada its only because of longevity. I'm probably forgetting some other old-school guys.

I also think if the front office hadn't jumped to conclusions and let the Lugo thing play out until he was vindicated, our playoff results might have looked a little different in the mid and late 2000s while Everett struggled to hit .200 in the postseason & hit .067 in the '05 WS & Lugo was the starting shortstop and hit .385 in the WS for the world champ 2007 Red Sox.
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Harry Dunne said:

Farmer1906 said:

Pahdz said:

Unpopular opinion here, but I'd put Adam Everett in at 20...only because the comments Roy Oswalt constantly made about his defense. His brilliance with the glove was overlooked in an era before advanced metrics really became a thing.


His glove wasn't overlooked. He made it and stuck around because of it. He's far from the top 20. Maybe top 50. Probably not.
Maybe the best fielding Astro SS ever, but I'm going with not definitely not top 50 - somewhere between 50-100.

SS is probably the 2nd weakest position in team history ahead of only C, but he's still far behind Correa & Thon and if he's ahead of Menke, Lugo & Tejada its only because of longevity. I'm probably forgetting some other old-school guys.
Bogar!
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CB generally just sucks and goes about his business. Angel sucks and runs his mouth.
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iBrad said:

CB generally just sucks and goes about his business. Angel sucks and runs his mouth.


CB is bad at his job, but generally seems otherwise likable.

Angel is bad at his job and a butt.
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

Harry Dunne said:

Farmer1906 said:

Pahdz said:

Unpopular opinion here, but I'd put Adam Everett in at 20...only because the comments Roy Oswalt constantly made about his defense. His brilliance with the glove was overlooked in an era before advanced metrics really became a thing.


His glove wasn't overlooked. He made it and stuck around because of it. He's far from the top 20. Maybe top 50. Probably not.
Maybe the best fielding Astro SS ever, but I'm going with not definitely not top 50 - somewhere between 50-100.

SS is probably the 2nd weakest position in team history ahead of only C, but he's still far behind Correa & Thon and if he's ahead of Menke, Lugo & Tejada its only because of longevity. I'm probably forgetting some other old-school guys.
Bogar!


Buddy "what's he doing here" Biancalana!
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Astros have had 10 guys come to bat on the 5th. 8 runs, 0 outs.
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Good lord this is a horrible called strike.
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bearkatag15 said:



Good lord this is a horrible called strike.
He would have had to hit the dirt on that pitch if that location is accurate. I never saw a replay of the pitch
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Sitting right behind the on-deck circle today. Conversation...

Wife: what's Tucker's first name?

Me: Preston

Wife: Come on, Preston. Good eye, Preston. Way to take that base, Preston! Wohoo, go Preston!

Me: Why are you calling Kyle by his brothers name?
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Roger Metzger.
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agsquirrel97 said:

bearkatag15 said:



Good lord this is a horrible called strike.
He would have had to hit the dirt on that pitch if that location is accurate. I never saw a replay of the pitch
Springer is right handed? That would have been the other batters box
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Pretty cool look at draft success since 2014
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So Hinch gets 1 game suspension. What about Angel? When you look at the strike called against Springer it is obvious the call was made to get at Hinch. That is just unacceptable as a professional and does not belong in the game. Any thoughts if MLB will do anything?
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Glad AJ is standing up and publicly calling this guy out at least. He needs to go. Completely toxic to MLB.
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texpdx said:

So Hinch gets 1 game suspension. What about Angel? When you look at the strike called against Springer it is obvious the call was made to get at Hinch. That is just unacceptable as a professional and does not belong in the game. Any thoughts if MLB will do anything?


They won't do anything bc they're too afraid of litigation
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third coast.. said:

Does anyone have video of the actual pitch?

Based on what AJ said, the real issue wasn't the pitch. It was the unprofessional behavior that followed.
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Good time at the Disney park today. Teheran was painting the inside corner early and gave the guys fits. Altuve had some good swings, and Valdez was effective.

Ballpark was so-so. This is the last week for the Braves as they move next year.
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bearkatag15 said:



Good lord this is a horrible called strike.
Clearly Angel is in favor of the electric strike machine......
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that's great stuff for the Astros.

makes it easier to let expensive free agents go
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and speaking of expensive free agents...

10 days until the start of the season and Keuchel remains unsigned. He will have to give his new team a discount for year 1. Since he may not be ready or effective in April
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Astros catch a small break with the Yankees coming to MMP so early (April 8-10)...and Severino and C.C. both expected to be out
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Is their still not a video of the so called strike?
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Could the next CBA have some additional language about the way umpires are rated or a specific level of competency? Maybe specific lanuage that says Angel Hernandez is not allowed to actually work a real game in MLB? Maybe they could allow a video review of the strike/ball call?

I mean come on, this guy is terrible and could be costing guys money due to the missed calls.
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Nobody likes Hernandez. If he is married, fairly certain his wife doesn't like him. He is the most universallly disliked person associated with baseball. Even brings Astros and Rangers fans together.
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Ooh, I like that.

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Hinch should do the same...
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bearkatag15 said:



Hinch should do the same...
Why does Hinch need to change the clubhouse dynamic? We won a World Series having a looser evironment.
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Yanks signing Gio Gonzales and reportedly is an incentive laden minor league deal

REALLY not good for Keuchel

Also not very good for Gio IMO. He's not a world beater but he's a quality starter who I would imagine would at least get a ML deal.
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Keuchel is really doing himself some harm. He's not the same pitcher he was in 2015. But he's damn good, and plenty of the offers he's received have been on that level.

Chalk it up to another Scott boras special.

I wonder how much more enjoyable baseball would be without both Angel Hernndez and Boras
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