DVC2010 said:

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There are a few people here that really can't stand Arenado. I don't understand it.

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Yea, they act like somebody just gave Adam Everett $255 million.

My concern as a Rockies fan wouldn't be Arenado's deal, it would be the 24 other guys. The NL West is a tough division, and I haven't seen anything that inspires a lot of confidence in that front office.

I live in Denver, but am by no means a Rockies fanboy. Discounting what he does away from Coors is fine if you are any other team, but you can't ignore that he plays 81 games there a year. Sure - others would get an offensive bump too, but he's their franchise player. At a certain point, that carries a premium unless you are able to lock them up long term. Look at what Trout will command with the Angels when/if he hits FA.

His combination of offense and defense is pretty special. I'm not saying he's a HOF player, but he's the best chance currently on the Rox and without him, they are Chuck Nasty and that's it. If he walked next year, they wouldn't stand a chance at signing anyone even close to comparable.

We may face the same type of issues in a few years depending on the continued improvement of Correa and Bregman.

the Rockies are desperate for relevancy.

2019 will be year 27 for the franchise. The team has only reached the 90-win plateau 3 times in its history.

only won playoff series in 2007. Maybe something big can happen in the next 3 years with Arenado

of course where the Rockies really screwed up is with Blackmon.

going to pay him $21 MM each of the next 3 seasons...after he posted a robust 0.8 WAR last year.

that's why organizations like the Rockies are the Rockies. Most of their contracts backfire because they overpay after a guy has a big year

DVC2010 said:

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There are a few people here that really can't stand Arenado. I don't understand it.

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I actually like him a lot. He seems like a good dude and as a high school 3rd baseman I'm partial to the hot corner.

I just don't think he's as good as some rate him or worthy of the deal he got. The numbers back it up that he's a product of Coora somewhat and not really on the same level as the elite games anyway.

Getting back to the Astros, the offense went woof today. 0 runs, 3 hits, 1 walk, 12 K's.

The original Arenado discussion came up when that MlB Network list had him as the 3rd best player in baseball

Which is a joke

Marvin said:

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Getting back to the Astros, the offense went woof today. 0 runs, 3 hits, 1 walk, 12 K's.

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I'll be honest, I really don't care if we win all our games or lose them all. Spring Training has shown to be a poor way to judge in year performance from the best I can tell.

But if he plays 81 games at Coors then he is worth it.

Ag_07 said:

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But if he plays 81 games at Coors then he is worth it.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Marvin said:

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Getting back to the Astros, the offense went woof today. 0 runs, 3 hits, 1 walk, 12 K's.

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I'll be honest, I really don't care if we win all our games or lose them all. Spring Training has shown to be a poor way to judge in year performance from the best I can tell.

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Yeah, that's not where I was going. Just wanted to talk Astros instead of Rockies!

Maybe the team was doing their best RC offense impersonation, haha.

Marvin said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Marvin said:

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Getting back to the Astros, the offense went woof today. 0 runs, 3 hits, 1 walk, 12 K's.

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I'll be honest, I really don't care if we win all our games or lose them all. Spring Training has shown to be a poor way to judge in year performance from the best I can tell.

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Yeah, that's not where I was going. Just wanted to talk Astros instead of Rockies!

Maybe the team was doing their best RC offense impersonation, haha.

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I looked it up. We're like 215th in slugging as a team vs below avg competition.

Good post. I don't really agree with the conclusions you draw, but I'll stop boring the rest of the group with non-Astros talk.

W said:

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of course where the Rockies really screwed up is with Blackmon.

going to pay him $21 MM each of the next 3 seasons...after he posted a robust 0.8 WAR last year.

that's why organizations like the Rockies are the Rockies. Most of their contracts backfire because they overpay after a guy has a big year

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I'd pay Blackmon that

So I had completely forgotten that Tyler Ivey was in the Astros system until today. Do we know why he transferred? Was it a grades thing or maybe he had to be closer to home?

CorpsAg11 said:

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So I had completely forgotten that Tyler Ivey was in the Astros system until today. Do we know why he transferred? Was it a grades thing or maybe he had to be closer to home?

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It was a disagreement between him and they perceived treatment of the coaches towards him. I.E. playing time and one-on-one training time.

I was excited about Ivey after his fish year. He had a really good hook

Blackmon will be 32 years old for the 2019 season.

so the Rockies are paying him big bucks for his age 32, 33, and 34 campaigns. That is risky.

would feel better if his salary were in the $12-$15 MM per year range

Does anyone else miss the NL Astros or is that just me? I realize the AL brought us a World Series, AL Pennant, consecutive appearances in the LCS, 3 appearances in the playoffs, a Cy Young winner, among other things. I just miss the history and our opponents.

Also, Rockies extended Arenado 8 years with an option for 2021 for $260 million.

I absolutely miss the NL central. Selig straight up black balled Crane but it is what it is. 9 pm games are here to stay

I think we're a really good fit in the AL but not so much in the AL West.

I'd like a realignment that would put us and the Rangers with 3 other teams in this time zone

Ag_07 said:

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I think we're a really good fit in the AL but not so much in the AL West.

I'd like a realignment that would put us and the Rangers with 3 other teams in this time zone

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That just won't happen. There aren't enough teams in the west, and there are too many in the central that are close (Chicago, Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit, Kansas City). Who do you bump to the west? That would require more cross-league switches.

I want expansion. Add a team in San Antone & Nashville or New Orleans.

Create new divisions of 4.

Shuffle leagues for a few teams to make common sense divisions.

Change the playoffs to one wildcard. Make the WC winner play the worst division winner in a 3 games series for the final spot.

I don't blame anyone for not supporting the minor leagues. San Antonio supports the Spurs very well. But then again it shouldn't be hard to support them. I wouldn't mind if Canada got another team. It would be neat to put a team in Mexico too.

Yup. New Orleans just lost their triple A team due to lack of support