Summer 2026 Off-Season Moves Thread

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Everyone misrepresents the Desmond Bane Grizzlies-Magic trade as 4 first round picks (+a swap) for Desmond Bane. Maybe two of those were for Bane, but unloading KCP and Cole Anthony's contracts were worth a couple of first rounders. Grizzlies have now bought out both guys. Anthony was $12.9 mm. KCP was $21.6 mm.

Bucks picked up Anthony last summer after being waived. He played a little, but they dealt him to the Suns who waived him.

KCP will be 34 this upcoming season. Maybe hit a few 3 pointers, but he's washed.

They have 19 or 20 guys on main roster and their two-ways are currently filled.

Soon to be available, I'm guessing D'Angelo Russell and probably AJ Johnson.
Taj Gibson, Kris Murray or Taylor Hendricks.

Just guys that could be a 15th man on the roster, but make no difference to a team.
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I would actually love to get Taylor Hendricks and see what he can do. Maybe I am too attached to a guy I liked in the draft process but I have felt like he is one of those guys that has just been in awful places for development and needs a change of scenery.

I feel the same way about Jarace Walker, who again, I liked a lot in the draft process.
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What is Denver trying to pull off here
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Deluxe said:



What is Denver trying to pull off here


No one offered him a contact and now no one really can offer him a contact.

A few teams have good exceptions, but would require an agreement with Denver and Denver can't S&T him out when they are above the 2nd apron.

Teams with Trade Exception over $18M:

Boston, Milwaukee, Memphis, Charlotte.

Milwaukee doesn't want to burn assets in a trade, Boston is 1.7M from tax and are trying to reset repeater, Charlotte has plenty of space, but likely doesn't want to burn the 40M exception on Watson in a gap year for the team and Memphis is rebuilding and has Coward and Wells.

For the MLE, Detroit makes sense, but it depends what happens with Duren. They have 54M in 1st apron space, but 15M is less than Watson wants. If they could do Duren for high 30s and watson for the MLE, it's a pretty good off-season, but Watson wants more and I think Denver just matches.

I think that Duren, Kuminga, and Watson all overplayed their hand and we are on the River and none of them got their draw.
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The way the NBA is trending, it seems like it's going to be increasingly common for solid/good role players to overplay their hands in free agency. At least until the next CBA goes into effect.
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Main change I want to see in the next CBA is home grown players (someone that played all or some of their rookie season with the team that signed them to count as less against the aprons and luxury tax.

So sign a 30% max deal and it counts 25% against the aprons. 25% deal counts 21-22%. 20% counts maybe 17.

Player still gets paid, doesn't add luxury tax or apron restrictions. Incentive for players to get their money. Incentives for players to stay home and teams to stay together. Incentive for teams to invest in their own player development. Big win for the players, kind of a loss for the owners because more money will be spent on players and they aren't saved from themselves.
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Agree with all that
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Wild. He's a losing player
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At least Denver kept that Spencer guy
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No chance they match that right?
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Deluxe said:

No chance they match that right?


I don't think so. They would be above half a billion in salary+tax
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I bet they match and then try to work a trade. I'd be really surprised if they couldn't at least bring back one first for him as long as there are at least a couple of suitors trying to acquire him.

Hell, as a Spurs fan I'd send them Champ and Keldon and some 2nds for Cam Johnson and Peyton Watson. Saves them 15 million and then they can further maneuver and try to shed more salary while picking up assets.

I bet pretty much any team would kick the tires on picking up a guy with 20/5/5 potential on a 4/100 contract. That's really good value for that kind of production.
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Even fewer options at center
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AggieEP said:

I bet they match and then try to work a trade. I'd be really surprised if they couldn't at least bring back one first for him as long as there are at least a couple of suitors trying to acquire him.

Hell, as a Spurs fan I'd send them Champ and Keldon and some 2nds for Cam Johnson and Peyton Watson. Saves them 15 million and then they can further maneuver and try to shed more salary while picking up assets.

I bet pretty much any team would kick the tires on picking up a guy with 20/5/5 potential on a 4/100 contract. That's really good value for that kind of production.

Us trading with Denver would be ridiculously hard. We have 10.4M below the hard cap at the 1st apron. So we can't absorb more than 10.4M.

Also, Julian is Poison Pilled, making any trade with him this season really difficult.

We could do Keldon for Cam and that saves them 5M and puts us into the luxury tax. That gives them some more space, but they are about 2M over the 2nd apron with just 11 players so they have to cut a ton of salary to fill up the roster and stay under the 2nd apron.

They cannot trade PWat for a player if they are over the 2nd apron.
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Guitarsoup said:



At least Denver kept that Spencer guy


Reminds me of when Jerami Grant signed with the atrocious Detroit Pistons a few years ago.

More money and more scoring and minutes. Also, he left Denver.
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Guitarsoup said:



At least Denver kept that Spencer guy


By the way, interesting spelling on Shams last name.
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Iowaggie said:

Guitarsoup said:



At least Denver kept that Spencer guy


By the way, interesting spelling on Shams last name.

Yeah, looks like I got Centel'ed. I should have known because no team has enough money to offer 25M. Milwaukee only can as part of a S&T, which Denver and Milwaukee can't do right now.
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Not sure where to put this, but SAS admits that Kyrie was right!

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A 29 ACT as a freshmen in HS? He absolutely cheated
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That's the most bizarre story I've ever heard.

First he admits to cheating on his ACT, likely had someone take it for him when he was a freshman in HS. Rookie mistake to let the ringer score so high.

Then he's apparently so dumb that 4 years later he's not capable of getting a 26 on it so he's got a bunch of tutors working with him. Meanwhile the university enrolls him in blowoff classes.

Then, according to him the NCAA just drops the whole thing when they saw he was a star?

No wonder this kid is a losing basketball player, no one has ever made him be accountable to even the bare minimum standards and expected him to be anything more than a halfwit dumbass.
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Isn't a 26 still in the 80 - 85th percentile? After this contract his career earnings will be nearly half a billion, not including endorsements. Sounds like a pretty successful guy to me.
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There's a few items fishy in that story. The beginning sounds similar to the Derrick Rose story. In that case, the NCAA sent a notice to his house in regards to his ACT, arriving just before the start of the season. His mom kept it there, thinking the U of Memphis also received notice which they did not receive any notice from the NCAA until May, 2008, more than a month after Rose and Calipari lost in the NCAA tournament. At that point, the NCAA invalidated the test score, and Rose had nothing to gain by working with the NCAA, so the whole season vanished into the unknown.
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Westbrook calls it.

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Charlotte Hornets go local with their broadcast.


Which means this deal with DAZN did not get done.

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Apparently, NBA working to get the President's Day games a pretty meaningful date for games.

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Schedule dropped.

Knicks, Spurs, Sixers, and Lakers have 34 nationally televised games.




(from LevAkabas)
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It's really been misleading to say that, and every NBA team would have done the same. His contract is voided by death, especially since he was committing a crime.


However, the Grizzlies had a life insurance policy on him, and that pays the family $12.5 mm.

So they are getting that money, but it isn't counting against the salary cap.

He will have really earned $25 mm over the last two years of the deal. He played 2 games, was arrested for drug possession and after leading the police on a high speed chase, and then died OD'ing on cocaine and heroin.



When the twitter patrol comments that "this is why players don't want to come to Memphis", it's like, are you serious? They could have paid his family $50 mm and wouldn't get a free agent to go there unless it was OJ Mayo, Roy Tarpley, or Michael Ray Richardson.



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Iowaggie said:

It's really been misleading to say that, and every NBA team would have done the same. His contract is voided by death, especially since he was committing a crime.


However, the Grizzlies had a life insurance policy on him, and that pays the family $12.5 mm.

So they are getting that money, but it isn't counting against the salary cap.

He will have really earned $25 mm over the last two years of the deal. He played 2 games, was arrested for drug possession and after leading the police on a high speed chase, and then died OD'ing on cocaine and heroin.



When the twitter patrol comments that "this is why players don't want to come to Memphis", it's like, are you serious? They could have paid his family $50 mm and wouldn't get a free agent to go there unless it was OJ Mayo, Roy Tarpley, or Michael Ray Richardson.






That's interesting.

When Reggie Lewis died, the league made the Celtics count his salary against the cap for the following two years while they paid out the estate.

Glad they changed that
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So I'm checking Wikipedia on this topic (so we all know it has to be true). Since 2000, these are the players who died while on a roster.

3 in the year 2000.

Malik Sealy was killed by a drunk driver.

Bobby Phills (Hornets) - Also a car accident
Conrad McRae - heart failure (orlando magic camp, never an NBA player)

2005: Jason Collier (Hawks) - Heart failure


Then from 2016-18

Bryce Dejean-Jones (Pelicans) - Walked into the wrong apartment in Dallas and was shot.


Eddie Griffin (T'Wolves) - Car/Train accident



And most deaths fall in those 3-4 categories (Car accident, heart failure of some type and then drugs or gunshots, some of those suicidal), but there were a few that stood out.


Heino Veskila (Estonia and EuroBasket in the late 1930s) - Death by Execution by the Nazis
Slobodan Popovi - just says groin injury complication...tried to research it.
Nilay Aydoan (Turkey) - She died during an earthquake.

However in researching Slobodan Popovi, there was a basketball player named Slobodan Jankovic who moved from Serbia/Yoguslavia during the war to Greece for a safer life. While playing for Greece team, he picks up a 5th foul on an offensive foul in which he scored. He was so mad that he head butt the basketball support, and falls to ground, bloodied, but also having cracked a vertebrae in his back, never to walk again.

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El Cheapo got his deal (apparently, but not approved by both sides)

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I had no clue there was a page just on pro basketball player deaths.

How about Slobodan Popovi. "groin injury complication"

The OD sounds way better
 
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