Summer 2026 Off-Season Moves Thread

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LOL

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On the next episode of Pablo Torre burns it all to the ****ing ground
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I hope so. And I want to see the NBA's report of the inaccuracies.

I'd also be interested in knowing how the other owners feel about this. Are they excited that the league office is putting their head in the sand on these types of deals, or are they ticked off that not only has the league turned their head, and they will feel the expectation to facilitate these types of deals.
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Shams reporting the Buss family trust (owning 17.8% of the Lakers) is selling to Iger/Kush too. They must really hate Jeannie.
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Grab your popcorn...

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Jeanie Buss has been getting more and more embarrassing.

Look, they sold the franchise in an embarrassing way, and and now her ego still can't let go and she wants to buck everyone else in her camp over what has to be a power trip issue - as she wants to stay "Governor" (controlling owner).

The Buss family just needs to exit the Lakers. It's beyond time.... that ball started rolling when they sold out their massive majority to Mark Walter, who's embroiled in his own financial scam accusations.

The sad part about all of this, is his spoiled children will never 'be whole' ('family') largely because they're so spoiled/entitled and power tripping over the assets he left behind.
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I remember watching that PTFO episode in June, and I guess I did post about it that summarized it (via AI). It was a really good discussion about fraud and conspiracy.

One of the points in that video is that they discuss how criminal law and the legal system do not require direct proof (like a signed confession or explicit written agreement) to establish fraud or conspiracy, but instead routinely rely on circumstantial evidence.

These two quotes were important to me.

"In criminal law, when I was a federal prosecutor, you're always looking for that one email that says, 'Hey, here's the conspiracy.' Conspiracy is usually not written out by words, it's circumstantial... Very rarely do you have an email that says, 'I agree to do X with you,' and that's illegal." - Former fed prosecutor Lou Manzo, Pablo's guest.


Also, in the CBA it mentions that violations of the salary cap "may be proven by direct or circumstantial evidence, including but not limited to evidence that a player contract or any item or provision thereof cannot rationally be explained."

So I go back to the ESPN quote, and the direct evidence statement might not mean anything, which is possibly why the NBA was quick to correct their media partner.


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satexas said:

Jeanie Buss has been getting more and more embarrassing.

Look, they sold the franchise in an embarrassing way, and and now her ego still can't let go and she wants to buck everyone else in her camp over what has to be a power trip issue - as she wants to stay "Governor" (controlling owner).

The Buss family just needs to exit the Lakers. It's beyond time.... that ball started rolling when they sold out their massive majority to Mark Walter, who's embroiled in his own financial scam accusations.

The sad part about all of this, is his spoiled children will never 'be whole' ('family') largely because they're so spoiled/entitled and power tripping over the assets he left behind.


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LawHall88 said:



It's about 90th in average contract value average in the league, between PJ Washington and Toumani Camara. He's 24 and put up 15/5 with good defense while shooting 49/41 last year. I think it is probably a good bet. Strus is a solid player, but he is 30 and played 62 games over the last two years.
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The cost is Struss and the opportunity cost of using those draft picks anywhere else.

Cavs are in a tough spot. Watson probably doesn't move the Cavs into the ECF, much less winning an NBA championship, but staying put just means they win a lot of regular season games and then pull a Harden in the playoffs, so I understand the move. But it seems like the type of move that teams make when they've probably peaked, but desperately want to take one last run, and don't have options. Like the moves the Bucks made the last few years...or I'm sure there are plenty of other examples.
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Lesson for this off season is how letting a guy get to restricted free agency is a good thing. (Re: Watson and Kessler)

Worst case scenario is matching a max deal from another team with a lower total value than your own max offer.

There is a decent chance that only like 3-4 teams can even tender offer sheets.

You get the chance to match if you really like the player, or let them go in exchange for 1st round picks and other players.

The only clear negative is that contentious negotiations could lead to blowback from other players on the team of the perception becomes that the team doesn't want to pay guys what they are worth.
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AggieEP said:

Lesson for this off season is how letting a guy get to restricted free agency is a good thing. (Re: Watson and Kessler)

Worst case scenario is matching a max deal from another team with a lower total value than your own max offer.

There is a decent chance that only like 3-4 teams can even tender offer sheets.

You get the chance to match if you really like the player, or let them go in exchange for 1st round picks and other players.

The only clear negative is that contentious negotiations could lead to blowback from other players on the team of the perception becomes that the team doesn't want to pay guys what they are worth.


Bigger lesson to me as why you should wait is because then you don't pay Christian Braun 5y125M after a good playoff run and that contract causes you to lose Peyton Watson at 4y/88M.
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Yeah that's mostly what I mean. You find out what a player's real market value is instead of making it up on your own.
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LawHall88 said:



Wemby broke him in the WCF.
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Surely those aren't complete randoms....right?? If so...yikes
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https://instagr.am/p/Dcm7qEjAmWF

God hates superteams.
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For those who don't voyage into the Spurs thread.

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HAHAHA the Clippers lose the Pacers Pick in 2029.

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NBA made the report publicly available.

https://www.wlrk.com/docs/Report_of_Independent_Investigators_Concerning_the_LA_Clippers_and_Kawhi_Leonard.pdf
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2 immediate thoughts -

1. Leonard getting just a 700k fine is BS. A contract void on "fruit of the poisoned tree" was expected.

2. Ballmer will fight for sure and if not pressured hard enough from league peers - likely win.
Reading this forum sometimes is like people that can't speak English well trying to differentiate between a "booty call" and a "butt dial".
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satexas said:

2 immediate thoughts -

1. Leonard getting just a 700k fine is BS. A contract void on "fruit of the poisoned tree" was expected.

2. Ballmer will fight for sure and if not pressured hard enough from league peers - likely win.

I think Kawhi not getting punished more had more to do with

1. the NBPA negotiated the punishment
2. Kawhi probably had plausible deniability
3. Kawhi fired his agent/uncle and hired a new agent
4. A deal was already done for him to go to Toronto and the NBA doesn't want to penalize Toronto, who did nothing wrong
 
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