Earth Rider said:
Guitarsoup said:
Spurs specific board only, I think I'm at:
1. Coop
2. Harper
3. Ace
4. Edgecombe
5. Kon
6. Bryant
Tre Johnson looks like a scorer and shooter, but I think he's a low IQ guy with no instincts on defense. He's probably 7, but I could be convinced to take Fears over him, because I think he's going to be elite at rim pressureand he could be Fox's replacement in 4 years so you could move off Fox while he still has value. And I think it takes 3-4 years for most PGs to really come into their own so his timeline as a 6th man transitioning to replace Fox would be great.
That would be great if Fears could replace Fox in 4 or 5 years. I like Fox but I wonder how long he can keep his quickness.
Just going off of Tony Parker and Russell Westbrook, they both seemed to hit a wall around age 31-32. Fox turns 28 at Christmas. So about 4 years of prime Fox for us. He has his middie, and last year he was 37% from three, so ideally we can get him back around there and he can be effective even after his quickness fades. He already doesn't hit the rim as much as he did a few years ago.
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But why not castle to take over pg. Or do you see him mostly as a shooting guard. I could see a more natural sg at the 2 spot that can hit the 3 at a higher percentage and keep castle on the floor with his speed and defense.
I think he is going to be more of a Jimmy Butler player on offense. He creates rim pressure, he draws fouls at a high level. He just needs a mid range and some threat from three. Jimmy creates well for others, but he isn't really a PG. But Jimmy gets around 5apg. I think that is what Castle will be. He can run the offense, he can be the offense, but he isn't really a PG.
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Coop is the only 4 in your ranking, wish we could draft more size but this draft is deep at 6'5 and under.
I think Ace Bailey is a 4. I think Ace is going to be a lot like Michael Porter. Good shooter, decent rebounder, passable defender, ball stopper. But I think MPJ has more creation and a higher IQ.
I would have Fleming and Noa Essengue in the mix for the 14th pick, but probably not the 8th. I do like Collin Murray Boyles, but not if we keep Sochan.
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Interesting on Edgecombe, I haven't studied him as much as I thought he was too similar to castle. High ceiling and he could be great and I understand why he is at 4.
I think Edgecombe and Castle would be an amazing back court. Hyper athletic, both can be shut down defenders. I think Edgecombe will be a good shooter off ball. I am really close to putting him above Ace Bailey, because I question Ace's BBIQ.
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I am with you on Johnson, but I've seen him in mock drafts go 3rd. Personally I'd put Fleming, Newell or Essengue above him.
we will know more about our options by this time tomorrow.
I think Tre could be an elite "off the bench score 20 in 25 minutes" guy, but he might give up 30. It's tough because we do need that type of scoring and shooting, but I think he is going to be a 6'5 Rob Dillingham defensively. I have Carter over him for us, but if Kon and Carter are gone, I think you probably pick Tre there over Fleming or those other projects.
I don't like Newell at all. I don't think he is good at anything. He has nothing that screams to me "Oh he is going to feast on this in the NBA." He is just one of those guys that has the right body type, is kind of ok at lots of things, but isn't good at anything. That's a long term bench forward. I would rather have a guy like Kyle Anderson that can at least defend and pass at a high rate, even if he sucks at shooting or scoring.