***********2023-2024 San Antonio Spurs Thread********************
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Ryen Russillo was saying that what will be interesting is that with Wemby's standing reach being about 10', he doesn't even need to really get clearly open like someone like Bryn Forbes. The guys guarding him on the perimeter will be closer to 6'6-6'8 so Wemby will have a clean look without separation on the perimeter.DTP02 said:
The real attention getter to me was how these otherwise freakishly tall men were overwhelmed/intimidated by his length. We're talking 6'10" guys who all of a sudden feel short for the first time. Eventually people will either drive into his body more or give it up more quickly to try to mitigate that somewhat, but until people get used to playing against him it's going to be a novelty even for NBA players.
Agreed re the fouls. It will be interesting to see how they call things with him early on, whether he gets the star treatment from the jump, but typically skinny guys like him are going to get some calls on contact that big hulking guys won't.
Guitarsoup said:Ryen Russillo was saying that what will be interesting is that with Wemby's standing reach being about 10', he doesn't even need to really get clearly open like someone like Bryn Forbes. The guys guarding him on the perimeter will be closer to 6'6-6'8 so Wemby will have a clean look without separation on the perimeter.DTP02 said:
The real attention getter to me was how these otherwise freakishly tall men were overwhelmed/intimidated by his length. We're talking 6'10" guys who all of a sudden feel short for the first time. Eventually people will either drive into his body more or give it up more quickly to try to mitigate that somewhat, but until people get used to playing against him it's going to be a novelty even for NBA players.
Agreed re the fouls. It will be interesting to see how they call things with him early on, whether he gets the star treatment from the jump, but typically skinny guys like him are going to get some calls on contact that big hulking guys won't.
He also has a habit of drawing a lot of fouls on jumpers for the same reason. Guys are so much shorter that they have to jump into his space to try and contest.
I think Pop needs a 2 year deal max. I can't imagine a 79 year old trying to coach a NBA team. He is going to die on the Rodeo Road Trip most likely.
Pop obviously takes great care of himself but signing the 5-year deal is probably more about preventing the media from asking him about his future every press conference more than anything. He very well might move into a full front office position after 2 or 3 seasons. That is the most likely scenario but this keeps it from being a distraction every off-season.
Man. I would love to get Bud back on the bench to get our defense in gear.
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Sher Thing said:
Pop obviously takes great care of himself but signing the 5-year deal is probably more about preventing the media from asking him about his future every press conference more than anything. He very well might move into a full front office position after 2 or 3 seasons. That is the most likely scenario but this keeps it from being a distraction every off-season.
I think it was Windhorsts podcast where I heard the language of the contract includes him as President of Basketball Operations, so technically, he could only coach 1 or 2 more years then just be PoBO for the remainder of the contract.
That drive and behind the back pass by Cissoko was niiiice
West Texan said:
That drive and behind the back pass by Cissoko was niiiice
Sidy Cissoko drive and behind the back dime to Dom Barlow for the bucket pic.twitter.com/nlMmIrKddp
— Aram Cannuscio (@AC__Hoops) July 12, 2023
Sidy looks like he's got some baby fat to work out. But overall he looks like a good prospect.
Barlow is starting to look like a David West 2.0
West Texan said:West Texan said:
That drive and behind the back pass by Cissoko was niiiiceSidy Cissoko drive and behind the back dime to Dom Barlow for the bucket pic.twitter.com/nlMmIrKddp
— Aram Cannuscio (@AC__Hoops) July 12, 2023
Another Cissoko dime that turns into an easy assist if that's Barlow.
Sidy Cissoko beautiful no look dime, just wasn't caught
— Aram Cannuscio (@AC__Hoops) July 12, 2023
The passing flashes have been something as @MavsDraft noted pic.twitter.com/UwAUL4rkzx
Vegas summer league game 3 thoughts:
-good win bounce back game for the summer Spurs. I also forgot that Quentin Jackson played for Washington. First game I've watched him play since the NIT final.
-Branham started slow and I was worried that the 1-17 shooting from the last game was going to carry over. Then toward the end of the second quarter he started to get it going and turned it into a 29 point performance. He was also much better with the ball in his hands and was the go to down the stretch in the 4th when we put the game away.
-Barlow kept us in the game early while Branham struggled and had a very solid game. 20 points and 7 rebounds. He's got a really nice touch from the midrange and I think there's some hope he can one day extend that out to 3. He has a qualifying offer for another two way contract that he hasn't signed yet. I can't imagine we wouldn't match if another team offered him a full contract, but he's improved so much since last season and does a lot of things really well.
-Champagnie was very solid tonight and did a little bit of everything, finishing with 18, 8, and 7. He was only 2-8 from 3, but his shot selection was good and he didn't force anything. Defensively he was ok but was too handsy trying to cut off drives and picked up 5 fouls. He has a really mature game and I love watching him play.
-Wesley was very meh tonight. 14 points on 5-16 shooting, 5 boards, 4 assists, 4 turnovers. There are times that it feels like he has his mind made up to shoot, because he will do a great job of collapsing the defense but will force it at the rim instead of kicking it out. Just lacks that next level of feel right now.
-Cissoko has some Boris Diaw to him. I posted a couple clips earlier in this thread, but man he has really good feel for passing. He needs to tighten up his handles through traffic, but I really liked what I saw from him leading the break. When he can catch and shoot, his form looks smooth and like he has the potential to be an average shooter with some work. He's got no idea how to finish at the rim when there's defenders around right now. Very right handed and throws up some awkward looking shots. He rebounded better tonight (7 boards) and did a much better job of not fouling on defense with only 2 fouls tonight.
-no one else on the team is really worth talking about. They're all far away from being NBA caliber players.
-good win bounce back game for the summer Spurs. I also forgot that Quentin Jackson played for Washington. First game I've watched him play since the NIT final.
-Branham started slow and I was worried that the 1-17 shooting from the last game was going to carry over. Then toward the end of the second quarter he started to get it going and turned it into a 29 point performance. He was also much better with the ball in his hands and was the go to down the stretch in the 4th when we put the game away.
-Barlow kept us in the game early while Branham struggled and had a very solid game. 20 points and 7 rebounds. He's got a really nice touch from the midrange and I think there's some hope he can one day extend that out to 3. He has a qualifying offer for another two way contract that he hasn't signed yet. I can't imagine we wouldn't match if another team offered him a full contract, but he's improved so much since last season and does a lot of things really well.
-Champagnie was very solid tonight and did a little bit of everything, finishing with 18, 8, and 7. He was only 2-8 from 3, but his shot selection was good and he didn't force anything. Defensively he was ok but was too handsy trying to cut off drives and picked up 5 fouls. He has a really mature game and I love watching him play.
-Wesley was very meh tonight. 14 points on 5-16 shooting, 5 boards, 4 assists, 4 turnovers. There are times that it feels like he has his mind made up to shoot, because he will do a great job of collapsing the defense but will force it at the rim instead of kicking it out. Just lacks that next level of feel right now.
-Cissoko has some Boris Diaw to him. I posted a couple clips earlier in this thread, but man he has really good feel for passing. He needs to tighten up his handles through traffic, but I really liked what I saw from him leading the break. When he can catch and shoot, his form looks smooth and like he has the potential to be an average shooter with some work. He's got no idea how to finish at the rim when there's defenders around right now. Very right handed and throws up some awkward looking shots. He rebounded better tonight (7 boards) and did a much better job of not fouling on defense with only 2 fouls tonight.
-no one else on the team is really worth talking about. They're all far away from being NBA caliber players.
West Texan said:
Vegas summer league game 3 thoughts:
-good win bounce back game for the summer Spurs. I also forgot that Quentin Jackson played for Washington. First game I've watched him play since the NIT final.
-Branham started slow and I was worried that the 1-17 shooting from the last game was going to carry over. Then toward the end of the second quarter he started to get it going and turned it into a 29 point performance. He was also much better with the ball in his hands and was the go to down the stretch in the 4th when we put the game away.
-Barlow kept us in the game early while Branham struggled and had a very solid game. 20 points and 7 rebounds. He's got a really nice touch from the midrange and I think there's some hope he can one day extend that out to 3. He has a qualifying offer for another two way contract that he hasn't signed yet. I can't imagine we wouldn't match if another team offered him a full contract, but he's improved so much since last season and does a lot of things really well.
-Champagnie was very solid tonight and did a little bit of everything, finishing with 18, 8, and 7. He was only 2-8 from 3, but his shot selection was good and he didn't force anything. Defensively he was ok but was too handsy trying to cut off drives and picked up 5 fouls. He has a really mature game and I love watching him play.
-Wesley was very meh tonight. 14 points on 5-16 shooting, 5 boards, 4 assists, 4 turnovers. There are times that it feels like he has his mind made up to shoot, because he will do a great job of collapsing the defense but will force it at the rim instead of kicking it out. Just lacks that next level of feel right now.
-Cissoko has some Boris Diaw to him. I posted a couple clips earlier in this thread, but man he has really good feel for passing. He needs to tighten up his handles through traffic, but I really liked what I saw from him leading the break. When he can catch and shoot, his form looks smooth and like he has the potential to be an average shooter with some work. He's got no idea how to finish at the rim when there's defenders around right now. Very right handed and throws up some awkward looking shots. He rebounded better tonight (7 boards) and did a much better job of not fouling on defense with only 2 fouls tonight.
-no one else on the team is really worth talking about. They're all far away from being NBA caliber players.
Thanks for the breakdown. I didn't stay up to watch that one last night.
Great comparison.Ag Natural said:
Barlow is starting to look like a David West 2.0
Barlow = 20yo David West. Remember West played all 4 years at Xavier and wasn't a rotation player until he was 25 in his 3rd season.
Sidy Cissoko has Kawhi Leonard's defense with Manu Ginobili's flair for passing.
Guitarsoup said:Great comparison.Ag Natural said:
Barlow is starting to look like a David West 2.0
Barlow = 20yo David West. Remember West played all 4 years at Xavier and wasn't a rotation player until he was 25 in his 3rd season.
Sidy Cissoko has Kawhi Leonard's defense with Manu Ginobili's flair for passing.
And with the shooting touch of Spice Adams.
Full list of @Hoophall presenters next month in Springfield: pic.twitter.com/htGNytqSJW
— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) July 12, 2023
Gary Blair, four Spurs, and some other people
What's the line on how much longer Gary Blair's speech is relative to Pop's ?
Spurs officially announced the team has acquired forward Reggie Bullock & 2030 first round pick swap from the Mavericks in exchange for 3 future second round picks as part of a 3-team trade w/ Mavericks, Celtics. Spurs send 2025 (from Toronto), 2028 (from Miami) second round…
— JeffGSpursKENS5 (@JeffGSpursZone) July 12, 2023
AI presenting for Wade. What in the world.
Enzo The Baker said:Spurs officially announced the team has acquired forward Reggie Bullock & 2030 first round pick swap from the Mavericks in exchange for 3 future second round picks as part of a 3-team trade w/ Mavericks, Celtics. Spurs send 2025 (from Toronto), 2028 (from Miami) second round…
— JeffGSpursKENS5 (@JeffGSpursZone) July 12, 2023
Best trade Wright has ever done. Thanks for being a desperate chump, Cuban.
Pat Riley: Nah, I'm good, DWade. I'm sure you know other guys way better.FTAG 2000 said:
AI presenting for Wade. What in the world.
The San Antonio Spurs are projected to win 30.5 games next season.
— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) July 13, 2023
Are you taking the over or under? 🏀 pic.twitter.com/StXJkMHqHo
Over.
With the Bullock trade complete, the Spurs can still open up to $15.5 million in cap space.
— Paul Garcia (@PaulGarciaNBA) July 12, 2023
That $15.5 million is available until Jones and Mamu re-sign. Once their deals are signed, the cap space shrinks to $5.5 million.
San Antonio would also still have the $7.7 room MLE
We won 22 games last year while strategically trying to lose.Guitarsoup said:The San Antonio Spurs are projected to win 30.5 games next season.
— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) July 13, 2023
Are you taking the over or under? 🏀 pic.twitter.com/StXJkMHqHo
Over.
they think Wemby only wins us eight more?
And our 2nd best player, Vassell, missed over half the seasonFTAG 2000 said:We won 22 games last year while strategically trying to lose.Guitarsoup said:The San Antonio Spurs are projected to win 30.5 games next season.
— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) July 13, 2023
Are you taking the over or under? 🏀 pic.twitter.com/StXJkMHqHo
Over.
they think Wemby only wins us eight more?
Guitarsoup said:And our 2nd best player, Vassell, missed over half the seasonFTAG 2000 said:We won 22 games last year while strategically trying to lose.Guitarsoup said:The San Antonio Spurs are projected to win 30.5 games next season.
— Legion Hoops (@LegionHoops) July 13, 2023
Are you taking the over or under? 🏀 pic.twitter.com/StXJkMHqHo
Over.
they think Wemby only wins us eight more?
Barring major injuries, I think we can make a push for 40 wins. I know that's a big jump, but there were game last year that we definitely could have won but would pull starters and run out weird lineups. I think if last years team had tried to win every game, they could have broken that 30 win threshold.
No write up tonight, I'm at a beach house in Freeport. Are Champagnie and Branham shut down?
Another nice game from Cissoko. Wesley goes 3-17.
West Texan said:
No write up tonight, I'm at a beach house in Freeport. Are Champagnie and Branham shut down?
Yes, they both sat out but Sir Jabari Rice played for the first time and looked pretty good at times.
Like LawHall said, Sidy had a few more nice assists and a nasty dunk.
Other than that, not much to speak of.
**** Ray Allen.
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Any thoughts on the report that SSE and the Missions are wanting to collaborate on a downtown entertainment district with a new playground for both?
superunknown said:
Any thoughts on the report that SSE and the Missions are wanting to collaborate on a downtown entertainment district with a new playground for both?
It's something they need to do. But they have 9 more years left on their current so it's not going to happen any time soon.
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