jeffk said:
Morocco currently up on Colombia and Germany and SK tied. If that holds, Germany is eliminated. 77'
Hand Of God said:
Canada and Brazil getting bounced in the group stage is wild.
Colombia and Morocco book their spots in the knockout rounds of the #FIFAWWC
— B/R Football (@brfootball) August 3, 2023
Bring on the last 16 ⚔️ pic.twitter.com/ak4jOUcL96
Morocco huddled around a phone on the field watching the Germany game go final, then losing their minds. Absolutely incredible scenes. First Arab nation to qualify for a Women's World Cup. They advance ahead of Germany.
— Jeff Kassouf (@JeffKassouf) August 3, 2023
BTW Morocco INVESTED in them 👇https://t.co/yRFMoezCDR
Good discussion. Have not been able to listen to it all the way through, will later.Jim01 said:
A great discussion between not only two of the best but also smartest players in recent years. It's a solid 10 minute conversation and they don't hold back and hit the nail on the head.
Some great points they make:
- We haven't seen any tactical changes from Vlatko ever, not just in this tournament.
- Tobin talks about how people are commenting how Crystal Dunn looks lost and says that's how she felt watching Press and Mewis during the Olympics and why that's on the coach.
- How we screwed up this transition from old guard to new
My links starts right at the discussion, which is "The Daily Discussion" segment of the show.
Germany had an aging problem, much like the US. Their main offensive weapons are all over 32 years of age and are not the offensive players they used to be. They had lost a match to Zambia before the World Cup and most blew it off, but obviously it was a sign of what was to come.amercer said:
I guess the Germany players must have been super arrogant and distracted by all their woke activism.
Whatever fits your agendaamercer said:
I don't know, maybe they just didn't sing their national anthem hard enough.
ColoradoMooseHerd said:Good discussion. Have not been able to listen to it all the way through, will later.Jim01 said:
A great discussion between not only two of the best but also smartest players in recent years. It's a solid 10 minute conversation and they don't hold back and hit the nail on the head.
Some great points they make:
- We haven't seen any tactical changes from Vlatko ever, not just in this tournament.
- Tobin talks about how people are commenting how Crystal Dunn looks lost and says that's how she felt watching Press and Mewis during the Olympics and why that's on the coach.
- How we screwed up this transition from old guard to new
My links starts right at the discussion, which is "The Daily Discussion" segment of the show.
Couple quick thoughts
Coaching is lacking that is very obvious. But also is being used as a scapegoat by players/former players. Yes, the coaching has been bad and no adjustments have been made. But they have not been made in the last few years. People are now just taking the time to look at this, because they have looked so horrible in the tournament.
We did not look good in the Olympics and Don't look good now. But the focus on the WNT has been we are the two time defending World Cup Champions, how dare you criticize us. We will game up when the time comes and win again. If that happens great, lots of people will eat crow. But so many people have seen this coming, it has felt like most have been ostriches with their head in the sand.
The focus on the women's team has been equal rights, equal pay, politics and then soccer. Everyone has their own priorities and I will not say they are not in the right order.
I think you need a complete failure of a world cup to make people wake up and refocus on rebuilding the program and not just trying to hold onto old memories/players to make one more run
amercer said:ColoradoMooseHerd said:Good discussion. Have not been able to listen to it all the way through, will later.Jim01 said:
A great discussion between not only two of the best but also smartest players in recent years. It's a solid 10 minute conversation and they don't hold back and hit the nail on the head.
Some great points they make:
- We haven't seen any tactical changes from Vlatko ever, not just in this tournament.
- Tobin talks about how people are commenting how Crystal Dunn looks lost and says that's how she felt watching Press and Mewis during the Olympics and why that's on the coach.
- How we screwed up this transition from old guard to new
My links starts right at the discussion, which is "The Daily Discussion" segment of the show.
Couple quick thoughts
Coaching is lacking that is very obvious. But also is being used as a scapegoat by players/former players. Yes, the coaching has been bad and no adjustments have been made. But they have not been made in the last few years. People are now just taking the time to look at this, because they have looked so horrible in the tournament.
We did not look good in the Olympics and Don't look good now. But the focus on the WNT has been we are the two time defending World Cup Champions, how dare you criticize us. We will game up when the time comes and win again. If that happens great, lots of people will eat crow. But so many people have seen this coming, it has felt like most have been ostriches with their head in the sand.
The focus on the women's team has been equal rights, equal pay, politics and then soccer. Everyone has their own priorities and I will not say they are not in the right order.
I think you need a complete failure of a world cup to make people wake up and refocus on rebuilding the program and not just trying to hold onto old memories/players to make one more run
I don't see how you could take the #1 ranked team (even acknowledging that fifa rankings are dumb and flawed) and two time defending champs and decide to change everything up for this tournament. Failing that way would probably be worse than how they are about to fail.
But I do hope it leads to some changes, because the rest of the world (especially Europe) seems ready to apply the vastly better soccer resources and infrastructure that they built for the men's game to their women's teams.
It is not about changing everything. But we have changed nothing. And that is what people have been complaining about for a few years know and people keep using the argument that we are the best why do we need to change anything.amercer said:ColoradoMooseHerd said:Good discussion. Have not been able to listen to it all the way through, will later.Jim01 said:
A great discussion between not only two of the best but also smartest players in recent years. It's a solid 10 minute conversation and they don't hold back and hit the nail on the head.
Some great points they make:
- We haven't seen any tactical changes from Vlatko ever, not just in this tournament.
- Tobin talks about how people are commenting how Crystal Dunn looks lost and says that's how she felt watching Press and Mewis during the Olympics and why that's on the coach.
- How we screwed up this transition from old guard to new
My links starts right at the discussion, which is "The Daily Discussion" segment of the show.
Couple quick thoughts
Coaching is lacking that is very obvious. But also is being used as a scapegoat by players/former players. Yes, the coaching has been bad and no adjustments have been made. But they have not been made in the last few years. People are now just taking the time to look at this, because they have looked so horrible in the tournament.
We did not look good in the Olympics and Don't look good now. But the focus on the WNT has been we are the two time defending World Cup Champions, how dare you criticize us. We will game up when the time comes and win again. If that happens great, lots of people will eat crow. But so many people have seen this coming, it has felt like most have been ostriches with their head in the sand.
The focus on the women's team has been equal rights, equal pay, politics and then soccer. Everyone has their own priorities and I will not say they are not in the right order.
I think you need a complete failure of a world cup to make people wake up and refocus on rebuilding the program and not just trying to hold onto old memories/players to make one more run
I don't see how you could take the #1 ranked team (even acknowledging that fifa rankings are dumb and flawed) and two time defending champs and decide to change everything up for this tournament. Failing that way would probably be worse than how they are about to fail.
But I do hope it leads to some changes, because the rest of the world (especially Europe) seems ready to apply the vastly better soccer resources and infrastructure that they built for the men's game to their women's teams.
Knucklesammich said:
Germany had one offensive starter over the age of 30 in the game. That particular player scored in every game, put another off the post, scored a called back goal, and had another legit chance while penetrating a back 6 for South Korea.
I admit I haven't watched a lot of WMNT matches, but this seems to be true through 3 games. To me the biggest factor in these games is the lack of chemistry on the field and naturally they look lost out there.Knucklesammich said:
USWNT is playing garbage soccer right now. I don't think it has to do with the activism, but has to do with picking an all star team.
Germany lost...it sucks but go look at the game. They didn't look like individuals...also note how many of their players play for 1-2 clubs. Look at Spain...Look at France. Hell look at England (clumps of players across multiple clubs). Our team is essentially an NWSL all star team plus Lindsey Horan. That to me is the root issue.
This is a great point, and why you need to make a lineup that is cohesive and a can play together. You cant just always put your 'best' players out and expect it to work. They have to be complimentary piecesKnucklesammich said:
Germany had one offensive starter over the age of 30 in the game. That particular player scored in every game, put another off the post, scored a called back goal, and had another legit chance while penetrating a back 6 for South Korea.
Not sure what that lolold's KM covered was but her back pressing was about as good as you'll see from a 10 over 90 frantic minutes.
Their three offensive subs were all under 23 and had an impact in the latter stages of the game. Lohmann in particular nearly scored twice.
I get we hear the talking points but age isn't why they were eliminated...they were eliminated because they let Columbia off the hook as time expired on a weak fluky goal.
USWNT have one offensive player they count on over the age of 30....their problems are more akin to Brazil than Germany. They're playing individual dribble through you soccer. Is that because they don't agree with you politically and it causes them to not play good soccer? Don't know, but the fact that we can't talk about them without *****ing about their politics gets old.
USWNT is playing garbage soccer right now. I don't think it has to do with the activism, but has to do with picking an all star team.
Germany lost...it sucks but go look at the game. They didn't look like individuals...also note how many of their players play for 1-2 clubs. Look at Spain...Look at France. Hell look at England (clumps of players across multiple clubs). Our team is essentially an NWSL all star team plus Lindsey Horan. That to me is the root issue.