* Official 2023 Women's World Cup Thread *

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Out in Left Field
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Rudyjax
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wangus12 said:

Oh no the RSA goalie lets it through.


Yeah. That sucks.
wangus12
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Feel like that seems to happen a ton in women's soccer
bthotugigem05
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Great environment so far!

jeffk
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Yell louder
Malachi Constant
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Wow
Dre_00
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Nigeria up a player in ET and they've played very well all game. Can they do it?
Dre_00
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No they can not. Lose on penalties with 2 of their players missing the frame altogether. I feel your pain ladies.
rpr52121
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I just feel too many good, well-played matches get decided by penalty kicks.
jeffk
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Opening goal for Australia was a beaut.

jeffk
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Sam Kerr getting some minutes here at the end of the game. Aussie up 2-0.
KCup17
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Wow I'm shocked by how many PK takers have missed the frame completely this tournament
GrapevineAg
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Omperlodge
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It wasn't the miss. It was the smile like she didn't care. I know that everyone handles pressure differently, but I have watched hundreds of pks. That was abnormal. Usually they are pissed at themselves and feel they let down their team. They turn and their team has to help them hold it together.
aggiebird02
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I may have an explanation for you: She is selfish and self centered.

There are so many examples, here is another one: "What's the most important and lasting memory?"

Her response is, "Equal pay." She saw equal pay (more like taking from the men), as a more important battle than all of the teams she was on that won championships trophies and Olympic medals. Or what if she had just gave some love to her teammates? Nope, equal pay (communism) is her most cherished memory from representing the USA…
Knucklesammich
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Nigeria brought it this morning. Another highly entertaining game. Sucks that it came down to penalties...
bagger05
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Would be cool to see the Aussies win it all on home turf.
jeffk
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dallasiteinsa02 said:

It wasn't the miss. It was the smile like she didn't care. I know that everyone handles pressure differently, but I have watched hundreds of pks. That was abnormal. Usually they are pissed at themselves and feel they let down their team. They turn and their team has to help them hold it together.


That's a pretty biased reading of body language. It wasn't a smile of happiness.
Omperlodge
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jeffk said:

dallasiteinsa02 said:

It wasn't the miss. It was the smile like she didn't care. I know that everyone handles pressure differently, but I have watched hundreds of pks. That was abnormal. Usually they are pissed at themselves and feel they let down their team. They turn and their team has to help them hold it together.


That's a pretty biased reading of body language. It wasn't a smile of happiness.

I just went through 30 minutes of missed penalty kicks. Couldn't find one that the player smiled after missing. It was mostly as I described. I don't think I am being bias when I say that laughing is abnormal maybe on the thought that she didn't care, but you showed your bias by changing that to happiness.

It then caused me to try to find a video of her previous missed kick to see her reaction. She is 6/6 for the national team and 13/14 for her club team. Her one miss was 6/16/2018, but it was during the regular time so if she kept it on goal there wouldn't be a reaction.



Dre_00
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It was absolutely an abnormal reaction. I don't think anyone would say otherwise. I can't remember ever seeing a reaction like that.

But that doesn't mean she didn't care. I think almost any other player would be given the benefit of the doubt in that situation especially one who has achieved what she has. If Messi, Ronaldo, Wambach, Marta, etc. etc. etc. smiled after missing a WC PK (the literal last kick of their career) and smiled, I don't think anyone would have claimed it's because they didn't care. They would almost assuredly be given the benefit of the doubt because it makes absolutely, 100%, no logical sense that any player, let alone an elite player (or former elite player if you want to quibble) in that situation would not care. But many do not afford her that benefit for some very obvious reasons.
jeffk
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Sorry I misstated what you said. I think she cared about missing. Sure, it wasn't the distraught collapse you get sometimes, but her reaction was in line with what I've seen from some other players that have missed big scoring chances. I've had the same reaction myself. Kind of an incredulous "**** me" kind of laugh/smile if you will.

IDK, I just get tired of folks assuming the absolute worst about a player.
GrayMatter
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It looked like she was in disbelief to me.

But we're judging their reaction to a missed goal now?

She did the best she could and she was a great player that didn't belong in the game in the first place. That decision was based on the coach and I'm sure he's done running the team because he didn't do a good job at all.
Rudyjax
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It was definitely, wtf just happened I can't believe that **** just happened i might cry but laughing is easier.

jeffk
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Two interesting games coming up tomorrow morning. I hope Jamaica and Morocco advance.
wangus12
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GrayMatter said:

It looked like she was in disbelief to me.

But we're judging their reaction to a missed goal now?

She did the best she could and she was a great player that didn't belong in the game in the first place. That decision was based on the coach and I'm sure he's done running the team because he didn't do a good job at all.
This is what I thought. I've definitely seen and done stuff and kinda had that shocked laugh/grin like "what the **** just happened?"
carl spacklers hat
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dallasiteinsa02 said:

It wasn't the miss. It was the smile like she didn't care. I know that everyone handles pressure differently, but I have watched hundreds of pks. That was abnormal. Usually they are pissed at themselves and feel they let down their team. They turn and their team has to help them hold it together.
She's laughing all the way to the bank. Ironic that a year after the women help themselves to the men's share, they abruptly dump out of the biggest tournament at the earliest stage every. Coincidence?
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
Knucklesammich
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dallasiteinsa02 said:

jeffk said:

dallasiteinsa02 said:

It wasn't the miss. It was the smile like she didn't care. I know that everyone handles pressure differently, but I have watched hundreds of pks. That was abnormal. Usually they are pissed at themselves and feel they let down their team. They turn and their team has to help them hold it together.


That's a pretty biased reading of body language. It wasn't a smile of happiness.

I just went through 30 minutes of missed penalty kicks. Couldn't find one that the player smiled after missing. It was mostly as I described. I don't think I am being bias when I say that laughing is abnormal maybe on the thought that she didn't care, but you showed your bias by changing that to happiness.

It then caused me to try to find a video of her previous missed kick to see her reaction. She is 6/6 for the national team and 13/14 for her club team. Her one miss was 6/16/2018, but it was during the regular time so if she kept it on goal there wouldn't be a reaction.




Not the biggest fan or hers but did you miss the part where she looked up and just uttered f****CK. She was clearly frustrated.

Again if she was on Fox News and didn't advocate for the things she advocated for would you notice the frustrated smile as some sort of joy at failure which is odd given the levels in the sport she has attained?
Knucklesammich
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jeffk said:

Sorry I misstated what you said. I think she cared about missing. Sure, it wasn't the distraught collapse you get sometimes, but her reaction was in line with what I've seen from some other players that have missed big scoring chances. I've had the same reaction myself. Kind of an incredulous "**** me" kind of laugh/smile if you will.

IDK, I just get tired of folks assuming the absolute worst about a player.
I watched her have the same reaction when she mi**** a corner kick in Houston in Olympic qualifying in early 2020...clearly frustrated by not hitting a better corner. For the record that wasn't a terrible corner just not up to her standards.

Her corners were not good vs. Sweden but she was also clearly sending low burners into the near post for Ertz which are high risk/high reward for success. Also a tactic we've seen Ertz score on multiple times from Rapinoe corners.

jeffk
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carl spacklers hat said:

dallasiteinsa02 said:

It wasn't the miss. It was the smile like she didn't care. I know that everyone handles pressure differently, but I have watched hundreds of pks. That was abnormal. Usually they are pissed at themselves and feel they let down their team. They turn and their team has to help them hold it together.
She's laughing all the way to the bank. Ironic that a year after the women help themselves to the men's share, they abruptly dump out of the biggest tournament at the earliest stage every. Coincidence?


I mean they would have made even more money if they'd won…

Also the men's players association voted to approve that revenue sharing agreement.
GrapevineAg
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dallasiteinsa02 said:

jeffk said:

dallasiteinsa02 said:

It wasn't the miss. It was the smile like she didn't care. I know that everyone handles pressure differently, but I have watched hundreds of pks. That was abnormal. Usually they are pissed at themselves and feel they let down their team. They turn and their team has to help them hold it together.


That's a pretty biased reading of body language. It wasn't a smile of happiness.

I just went through 30 minutes of missed penalty kicks. Couldn't find one that the player smiled after missing. It was mostly as I described. I don't think I am being bias when I say that laughing is abnormal maybe on the thought that she didn't care, but you showed your bias by changing that to happiness.

It then caused me to try to find a video of her previous missed kick to see her reaction. She is 6/6 for the national team and 13/14 for her club team. Her one miss was 6/16/2018, but it was during the regular time so if she kept it on goal there wouldn't be a reaction.




It was a horrible take. She missed the goal by like 15'. Her form on the take was poor. She was horrible with her crosses. Look, she was never shy about garnering as much attention as she could when she scored; Newton's 3rd law says she's gonna get hammered when she effs it up.
fig96
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https://instagr.am/p/CvpK4cKOJLM
Mathguy64
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fig96 said:

https://instagr.am/p/CvpK4cKOJLM


She did that in full view of the R and originally just got a yellow. VAR called in and it was changed to the correct red for VC.

The R had a pretty bad game.

She missed this VC and had to correct the call. She got corrected on a phantom PK she gave to England and had to annul it and IMHO swallowed her whistle in stoppage time at the end on what should have been a PK to Nigeria.

It should not have gotten to extra time.
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Dre_00 said:

It was absolutely an abnormal reaction. I don't think anyone would say otherwise. I can't remember ever seeing a reaction like that.

But that doesn't mean she didn't care. I think almost any other player would be given the benefit of the doubt in that situation especially one who has achieved what she has. If Messi, Ronaldo, Wambach, Marta, etc. etc. etc. smiled after missing a WC PK (the literal last kick of their career) and smiled, I don't think anyone would have claimed it's because they didn't care. They would almost assuredly be given the benefit of the doubt because it makes absolutely, 100%, no logical sense that any player, let alone an elite player (or former elite player if you want to quibble) in that situation would not care. But many do not afford her that benefit for some very obvious reasons.


My personal take it was a purely selfish, self centered reaction. It's like she knew she was going to get buried by the anti-woke mob the moment she shanked it. She was very conscientious of the whole situation of what would happen, which I think shows what was really forefront in her mind. So the fact that her immediate first reaction wasn't "oh ****, I just let my team down" and a look of anger/disgust, but rather laughing/smiling like "oh ****, I'm about to get ridiculed mercilessly", says a lot about her and what was most important. Her comments post match solidified that for me. It was about her, her legacy, it was about the "sick joke" in her missing. It was never about the team or letting them down. Good riddance.

Just my $.02
AgRyan04
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That goal by Foord for Austrailia was like watching 2012 Alex Morgan....lop it downfield, let her run past everyone and then make a clinical finish to beat the keeper
jeffk
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That was a beautiful throughball and finish.
 
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