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With his substitute appearance against Club Brugge today, Weston McKennie officially became just the 2nd American all-time to play in 30 career Champions League games 🥈

He only trails his USMNT teammate Christian Pulisic, who has played in 59 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/Czt6yPH9AZ

— USMNT Source (@usmntsource) January 22, 2025

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It's crazy how many guys we have in this competition now compared to just a handful of years ago.

Oops, I'll add a quote since I bumped us to a new page.

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With his substitute appearance against Club Brugge today, Weston McKennie officially became just the 2nd American all-time to play in 30 career Champions League games 🥈

He only trails his USMNT teammate Christian Pulisic, who has played in 59 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/Czt6yPH9AZ

— USMNT Source (@usmntsource) January 22, 2025

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It's crazy how many guys we have in this competition now compared to just a handful of years ago.

Oops, I'll add a quote since I bumped us to a new page.

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And every one of our players made it into the knockout rounds.

At first glance, I thought PSV might have to worry (and evidently so does this dummy at CBS), but the City-Brugge match means someone will end up with fewer points (City loss/draw) or worse GD (Brugge loss).

Definitely entertaining dude. Kinda like Hoppe showing up at a USMNT event with a GGG tshirt

Sargent with the brace today.


Banks in the starting lineup for Augsburg. - great performance in victory. Pundit said a lot of good things and he looked great back there.

Adam's starting for Bournemouth. -2 assists in an asking of Forest.

Ledezma is starting for PSV. Pepi on the bench.

Weston starting for Juventus, Wesh on the bench.

Banks now has more Bundesliga minutes than Gio.

That kid is mystifying. He plays well when he plays but never gets to play at club level. And they put too high of a price tag to move him even tho they're not playing him.

So odd.

Pepi with another goal.

1.45 - Ricardo Pepi's 1.45 goals per 90 minutes rate this season (11 goals in 683 minutes) is the second-highest among players to play at least 500 minutes in the top 10 European leagues this season (Patrik Schick - 1.50). Window. pic.twitter.com/wdJyBKeyZZ

— OptaJack⚽️ (@OptaJack) January 25, 2025

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Banks now has more Bundesliga minutes than Gio.

That kid is mystifying. He plays well when he plays but never gets to play at club level. And they put too high of a price tag to move him even tho they're not playing him.

So odd.

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A massive part of every player deal is current salary. If Gio is happy to draw a bigger paycheck now (with hopes that maybe he'll prove he's actually worth it) than he's not going to end his contract early to move on for much less.

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Banks now has more Bundesliga minutes than Gio.

That kid is mystifying. He plays well when he plays but never gets to play at club level. And they put too high of a price tag to move him even tho they're not playing him.

So odd.

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A massive part of every player deal is current salary. If Gio is happy to draw a bigger paycheck now (with hopes that maybe he'll prove he's actually worth it) than he's not going to end his contract early to move on for much less.

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Right. But BVB is asking more than his market value for him.

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Banks now has more Bundesliga minutes than Gio.

That kid is mystifying. He plays well when he plays but never gets to play at club level. And they put too high of a price tag to move him even tho they're not playing him.

So odd.

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A massive part of every player deal is current salary. If Gio is happy to draw a bigger paycheck now (with hopes that maybe he'll prove he's actually worth it) than he's not going to end his contract early to move on for much less.

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Right. But BVB is asking more than his market value for him.

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Maybe, but numbers that they leak are always going to be higher than what they'd actually be willing to part with him for.

He's also uniquely (in)famous, so the next club is going to get a bump in jersey sales and more importantly, a boost in media attention before they even play him, which is worth a lot. Milan has made a lot of money on Pulisic's fame… I could be wrong, but Gio might be a close #2 in terms of US stardom (albeit for different reasons).

Also… this could very well be a case of management vs. coaching with Gio.

Management may well be like us and see this exciting young player who does well on the field, but the coach has to deal with whatever BS is happening behind the scenes… and I'm convinced there's something there.

It'd be one thing if it was just GGG and Dortmund… but we now have the Forest loan in the mix and that seems to be yet another case of management thinking he would be good but coaches disagreeing and therefore not playing him. To me, that was kinda his third strike. I'd love for him to prove me wrong.

Richards defending a header collided with the attacker and gave up the goal.

Subbed off with what seemed like a head injury.

Other link was removed, vid of Musah's picture perfect assist:

This Yunus Musah 🇺🇸 assist was as close to perfection as it gets.
What a perfectly placed pass!

One of those goals where the assist is better than the goal itself.
pic.twitter.com/fOVLyvF1ty

— Tactical Manager (@ManagerTactical) January 26, 2025

And to think i choke on the tee box when there is a group watching me.

Watke's review of episode 2 of Pulisic:

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The stakes are raised
Last week's episode of Pulisic was all about his time at Dortmund, and the Paramount+ team dramatized him getting his Croatian passport better than I've ever seen anyone do it:
Kate Abdo tells us Pulisic is on the verge of breaking through at Dortmund. Until one big problem rears its head. FIFA Article 19. A law that says Pulisic is American and young, and so is forbidden to play.
"It's a FIFA rule that honestly is so detrimental to the development of a young footballer, its actually criminal that that rule is allowed to exist," says an agent/scout.
We're left to assume Pulisic will languish in Germany for years. But then Abdo reveals a loophole opened by world events.
"It just so happens that a year earlier the country of Croatia was accepted into the European Union. Now why does that matter? It matters because Christian's grandfather on his father's side, Mate Pulisic, was born and raised on the tiny island of Olib in Croatia..."
Then they build tension on the paperwork approval. Disaster is averted when Dortmund calls Croatia.
Pulisic's professional beginnings
Pulisic's best contribution to the episode was a reflection on his introduction to the Dortmund first team. "I remember being in art class and looking at my phone and getting a text from Hannes, and he said, hey, tonight you're training with the first team."
This was a striking image for the viewer: Pulisic silently sitting among German children doing a craft. We had never imagined quite that before. We might also have been surprised to learn Germans let you look at your phone in art class.
An even more intriguing look into German culture was when Klinsmann explained why Pulisic was given a chance with the first team so early. "We have the approach in Germany that's, you know what, let's throw him in the cold water, and let him swim."
I was at first annoyed at Klinsmann getting an idiom wrong, but it turns out he was using a German one.
A difference in German and American idioms
The German idiom "ins kalte wasser werfen" (throw into cold water) is their version of our "throw into the deep end." Swimming pools were less important to Germany's mid-century culture than they were to ours. And, anyway, they had their cold water idiom in place hundreds of years before pools with deep ends were even invented.

Our two idioms are used in the same way, but do not really mean the same thing. When you're thrown into cold water it's about adjusting to the shock. And the ceremony of it almost evokes an initiation ritual into a group. Whereas when you're thrown into the deep end it's about learning to swim alone, or drown. The German idiom involves no test of swimming. He's thrown in the cold water to "let him swim."

Each idiom applies to Pulisic going suddenly into the first team in its own way, and together they give a rounder description of it than either does alone. So I think it's fine Klinsmann used his idiom instead of ours, even if it was jarring, and even if I still think ours is the better of the two.

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I watched the episode. That's an interesting take on Jurgen Klinsmann's use of the phrase. I didn't really think about the possibility of two different versions of the idiom with different meanings. Didn't think he meant "throw him in the cold water" to shock him; assumed he meant it like "sink or swim" / throw him in the deep end and see how he does, and the words were just a little bit lost in translation. ...and I have no problem with the sink or swim approach to training people. You have to see how people will handle pressure.

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I watched the episode. That's an interesting take on Jurgen Klinsmann's use of the phrase. I didn't really think about the possibility of two different versions of the idiom with different meanings. Didn't think he meant "throw him in the cold water" to shock him; assumed he meant it like "sink or swim" / throw him in the deep end and see how he does, and the words were just a little bit lost in translation. ...and I have no problem with the sink or swim approach to training people. You have to see how people will handle pressure.

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All it is is difference in language. I didn't think twice about it when watching.

I'm pretty sure Watke is largely inventing a meaning for that German idiom. At best, it's perhaps a secondary implied meaning for both the American and German versions (getting thrown in the deep end is also shocking), but I think both idioms share the same primary meaning of putting someone into a new/uncomfortable situation and seeing if they can handle it.

The act of throwing someone into water carries an implication that the water is deep (regardless of temp). To me, the coldness would just intensify the desire of the person to get out of the situation, so the German is probably a tidier version.

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I'm pretty sure Watke is largely inventing a meaning for that German idiom. At best, it's perhaps a secondary implied meaning for both the American and German versions (getting thrown in the deep end is also shocking), but I think both idioms share the same primary meaning of putting someone into a new/uncomfortable situation and seeing if they can handle it.

The act of throwing someone into water carries an implication that the water is deep (regardless of temp). To me, the coldness would just intensify the desire of the person to get out of the situation, so the German is probably a tidier version.

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German: You either figure it out or get out of the water.
American: You either figure it out or die.

In German, like most things, is more precise.

Team of the Week by @WhoScored.

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Tyler Adams in the Premier League TOTW for matchweek 23. 🇺🇸

🇩🇪 Noahkai Banks in the Bundesliga TOTW for matchweek 19. 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/WJ3lOpFMZm

— USMNT Otaku 🇺🇸 (@USMNTOtaku) January 27, 2025

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deadbq03 said:

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I'm pretty sure Watke is largely inventing a meaning for that German idiom. At best, it's perhaps a secondary implied meaning for both the American and German versions (getting thrown in the deep end is also shocking), but I think both idioms share the same primary meaning of putting someone into a new/uncomfortable situation and seeing if they can handle it.

The act of throwing someone into water carries an implication that the water is deep (regardless of temp). To me, the coldness would just intensify the desire of the person to get out of the situation, so the German is probably a tidier version.

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German: You either figure it out or get out of the water.
American: You either figure it out or die.

In German, like most things, is more precise.

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I find Watke entertaining, I would be careful about taking anything he says too seriously however.

Too late. I take everything too seriously.

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deadbq03 said:

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I'm pretty sure Watke is largely inventing a meaning for that German idiom. At best, it's perhaps a secondary implied meaning for both the American and German versions (getting thrown in the deep end is also shocking), but I think both idioms share the same primary meaning of putting someone into a new/uncomfortable situation and seeing if they can handle it.

The act of throwing someone into water carries an implication that the water is deep (regardless of temp). To me, the coldness would just intensify the desire of the person to get out of the situation, so the German is probably a tidier version.

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German: You either figure it out or get out of the water.
American: You either figure it out or die.

In German, like most things, is more precise.

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I find Watke entertaining, I would be careful about taking anything he says too seriously however.

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In other news, water is indeed wet.

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Aston94 said:

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deadbq03 said:

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I'm pretty sure Watke is largely inventing a meaning for that German idiom. At best, it's perhaps a secondary implied meaning for both the American and German versions (getting thrown in the deep end is also shocking), but I think both idioms share the same primary meaning of putting someone into a new/uncomfortable situation and seeing if they can handle it.

The act of throwing someone into water carries an implication that the water is deep (regardless of temp). To me, the coldness would just intensify the desire of the person to get out of the situation, so the German is probably a tidier version.

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German: You either figure it out or get out of the water.
American: You either figure it out or die.

In German, like most things, is more precise.

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I find Watke entertaining, I would be careful about taking anything he says too seriously however.

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In other news, water is indeed wet.

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And Rudy is still a tool...

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deadbq03 said:

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I'm pretty sure Watke is largely inventing a meaning for that German idiom. At best, it's perhaps a secondary implied meaning for both the American and German versions (getting thrown in the deep end is also shocking), but I think both idioms share the same primary meaning of putting someone into a new/uncomfortable situation and seeing if they can handle it.

The act of throwing someone into water carries an implication that the water is deep (regardless of temp). To me, the coldness would just intensify the desire of the person to get out of the situation, so the German is probably a tidier version.

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German: You either figure it out or get out of the water.
American: You either figure it out or die.

In German, like most things, is more precise.

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I find Watke entertaining, I would be careful about taking anything he says too seriously however.

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In other news, water is indeed wet.

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Of course no one is taking his schtick seriously. HIs being absolutely serious about inconsequential things is funny. We get it and didn't need you to tell us.

Rudy I feel like you were in detention a lot as a kid

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deadbq03 said:

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I'm pretty sure Watke is largely inventing a meaning for that German idiom. At best, it's perhaps a secondary implied meaning for both the American and German versions (getting thrown in the deep end is also shocking), but I think both idioms share the same primary meaning of putting someone into a new/uncomfortable situation and seeing if they can handle it.

The act of throwing someone into water carries an implication that the water is deep (regardless of temp). To me, the coldness would just intensify the desire of the person to get out of the situation, so the German is probably a tidier version.

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German: You either figure it out or get out of the water.
American: You either figure it out or die.

In German, like most things, is more precise.

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I find Watke entertaining, I would be careful about taking anything he says too seriously however.

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In other news, water is indeed wet.

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Of course no one is taking his schtick seriously. HIs being absolutely serious about inconsequential things is funny. We get it and didn't need you to tell us.

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So if there is information I already know on the site, which happens a lot, what I do is ignore it and move on.
Believe it or not, everyone on here doesn't know who watke is and likely have no idea whether he is being serious or not.

But you be you and pick your battles.

Edit. I thought you were addressing me since you replied to me. Let's move along.

Dettoni on loan in Switzerland.

US-U20 CB Grayson Dettoni joins Swiss Super League club Grasshoppers on loan from Bayern Munich🇨🇭

The 19 year old has had a very good first half of the season with Bayern II. Participated in Bayern’s winter camp with the first team and debuted vs. Salzburg in a friendly. pic.twitter.com/p8ivCOEUlQ

— USMNT Source (@usmntsource) January 28, 2025

Maybe he'll learn at Grasshopper.

But, alas it's moot because some rando on Texags thinks he's too tall to play CB.

Big day for Ricardo.

Hopefully he shines in front of a huge audience.

El Tren 🚂#PSVLIV #UCL pic.twitter.com/l917bEblA6

— PSV (@PSV) January 28, 2025

All full circle, if you think about it.

Tanner Tessmann will have a new coach at Lyon, and it will be Paulo Fonseca, Pulisic and Musah’s former coach. https://t.co/wEQlSdo7lK pic.twitter.com/VqVYaWv9El

— USMNT Otaku 🇺🇸 (@USMNTOtaku) January 28, 2025