***** Official United States vs Mexico CONCACAF Nation's League Final Thread *****

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ChipFTAC01
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In reply to wangus12 • 10:30a, 6/7/21
I like the new jerseys. I don't remember seeing them wear these yet.
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In reply to KCup17 • 10:30a, 6/7/21
KCup17 said:
I mean the ref has the control to enforce the law of the game. So even if it was concacaf's decision to have 22 players at the end of the game he missed multiple calls that wouldn't have sent players off.
You mean like the non call on Reyna and the no VAR?
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In reply to boogieman • 10:31a, 6/7/21
Gio getting hit in the head and debris getting flung at players was disgraceful. Also watching the mexican player get smacked in the face by a stray bottle was hilarious.
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In reply to AgGrad99 • 10:31a, 6/7/21
AgGrad99 said:
It might have been addressed already, but does anyone know what was said/done to stop the game for Discrimination Protocol?
Puto chant.
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10:33a, 6/7/21
Anyone know why the Gold Cup semis are listed as Austin or NRG? Does that just mean they'll out the bigger game (Mexico presumably) in Houston?
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In reply to Rudyjax • 10:35a, 6/7/21
Kevin the 3-legged dog said:
AgGrad99 said:
It might have been addressed already, but does anyone know what was said/done to stop the game for Discrimination Protocol?
Puto chant.
This. I wonder if any of FIFA/CONCACAF have the stones to take something real away from Mexico if the fans keep doing it (loss of points, WCQs behind closed doors, etc.). To be sure, I'm firmly in the "I don't care" category with respect to that but its fun to watch the Mexicans get the rug pulled out from under them for being who they are.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 10:35a, 6/7/21
That was one but the other one was the jersey pull on Pulisic to pull him off the ball. There were multiple ticky tack fouls that were either no calls that should have been called for the US or fouls called in favor of Mexico.

I'm not surprised that VAR wasn't called on that one tho. Was honestly surprised they gave the PK at the end of the day.
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10:36a, 6/7/21
stolen from Reddit


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Christian Pulisic is the only player in soccer history to ever win the UEFA Champions League and the CONCACAF Nations League in the same year
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In reply to ChipFTAC01 • 10:37a, 6/7/21
Everything I've heard here (I'm an Austin FC season ticket holder) agrees with you. The semifinal with Mexico gets the big venue and the other one is at Q2
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In reply to KCup17 • 10:37a, 6/7/21
KCup17 said:
I'm not surprised that VAR wasn't called on that one tho. Was honestly surprised they gave the PK at the end of the day.
The ref gave the non-handball handball PK to Mexico to make up for it (and really to make sure that Los Zetas didn't murder his family).
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In reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird • 10:37a, 6/7/21
Was talking to my Mexican friends last night and they basically said that they don't care for/respect FIFA's wishes because it isn't a discriminatory chant in their opinion.
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In reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird • 10:38a, 6/7/21
True.
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In reply to KCup17 • 10:39a, 6/7/21
That's exactly what I've heard. Best analogy a Mexican friend gave me was that it's the equivalent when someone would "insult" someone else in the late 1990s/early 2000s by calling them a "f a g." (TexAgs censors that word....didn't know that)
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In reply to ChipFTAC01 • 10:39a, 6/7/21
ChipFTAC01 said:
Anyone know why the Gold Cup semis are listed as Austin or NRG? Does that just mean they'll out the bigger game (Mexico presumably) in Houston?
Yeah
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In reply to Rudyjax • 10:40a, 6/7/21
Kevin the 3-legged dog said:
AgGrad99 said:
It might have been addressed already, but does anyone know what was said/done to stop the game for Discrimination Protocol?
Puto chant.
Ah. Thanks.

A buddy of mine said it was something the US Fans were chanting. I thought to myself...they can chant Puto without repercussion, but the first time we chant something they stop the game?

Glad to see that wasnt the case.
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In reply to AgGrad99 • 10:42a, 6/7/21
With it being Pride month I doubt any US fans would even consider uttering a discriminatory chant.
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In reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird • 10:45a, 6/7/21
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
That's exactly what I've heard. Best analogy a Mexican friend gave me was that it's the equivalent when someone would "insult" someone else in the late 1990s/early 2000s by calling them a "f a g." (TexAgs censors that word....didn't know that)
Which is something we all grew out of doing.
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In reply to KCup17 • 10:50a, 6/7/21
KCup17 said:
Was talking to my Mexican friends last night and they basically said that they don't care for/respect FIFA's wishes because it isn't a discriminatory chant in their opinion.


The gay Mexican janitor that I work with agrees. Very weird.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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10:52a, 6/7/21
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In reply to PatAg • 11:02a, 6/7/21
Holy cow, that Mexican player was 3 yards into the box before the ball was actually kicked.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
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In reply to PatAg • 11:06a, 6/7/21
PatAg said:
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
That's exactly what I've heard. Best analogy a Mexican friend gave me was that it's the equivalent when someone would "insult" someone else in the late 1990s/early 2000s by calling them a "f a g." (TexAgs censors that word....didn't know that)
Which is something we all grew out of doing.
Right. I thought my post captured that - hence the reference to the late 1990s/early 2000s.
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11:15a, 6/7/21

That CONCACAF lets Mexican fans get away with the idiocy they got away with last night is an embarrassment to the region and the sport. It's beyond ridiculous. Make them play in an empty Azteca a few times for qualifying, see how fast the garbage stops.
And by the way, Corona of Mexico can just go away. If he was so much as breathed on last night he was trying to reenact Kennedy's part in the zapruder film. Simulation has to start being called more.
But all of that makes the win that much sweeter too.
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In reply to akm91 • 11:15a, 6/7/21
akm91 said:
Holy cow, that Mexican player was 3 yards into the box before the ball was actually kicked.


Unless he becomes involved in play off the rebound he's getting ignored. There were a bunch of US players that were early too just not to that blatant extent.
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In reply to akm91 • 11:16a, 6/7/21
akm91 said:
Holy cow, that Mexican player was 3 yards into the box before the ball was actually kicked.

They always seem to get away with little things like that.
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In reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird • 11:18a, 6/7/21
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
Kevin the 3-legged dog said:
AgGrad99 said:
It might have been addressed already, but does anyone know what was said/done to stop the game for Discrimination Protocol?
Puto chant.
This. I wonder if any of FIFA/CONCACAF have the stones to take something real away from Mexico if the fans keep doing it (loss of points, WCQs behind closed doors, etc.). To be sure, I'm firmly in the "I don't care" category with respect to that but its fun to watch the Mexicans get the rug pulled out from under them for being who they are.
I'm also in the 'I dont care either way' camp but I'd like the stoppage and enforcement to be more consistent. Will refs have the strength to call off a game in Azteca?
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11:18a, 6/7/21
Oh and by the way, was going to write an email to concacaf about finally shutting the Mexican fans down before someone get seriously hurt. But guess what?

https://www.concacaf.com/contact-us/
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11:21a, 6/7/21

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Unless he becomes involved in play off the rebound he's getting ignored. There were a bunch of US players that were early too just not to that blatant extent.
I mean, that was blatantly illegal.

A 'bunch of US players early'? Freeze the video as he's kicking the ball, and there might be a foot over the line. That's never going to get called...halfway in the box absolutely should.
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In reply to ThunderCougarFalconBird • 11:22a, 6/7/21
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
Kevin the 3-legged dog said:
AgGrad99 said:
It might have been addressed already, but does anyone know what was said/done to stop the game for Discrimination Protocol?
Puto chant.
This. I wonder if any of FIFA/CONCACAF have the stones to take something real away from Mexico if the fans keep doing it (loss of points, WCQs behind closed doors, etc.). To be sure, I'm firmly in the "I don't care" category with respect to that but its fun to watch the Mexicans get the rug pulled out from under them for being who they are.
They've been "warned" multiple times about it and yet continue to do it. I'd kill for FIFA to finally step in and deduct WCQ points which would be great, but I doubt it would solve the problem. Also FIFA doesn't have the balls to do it
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In reply to PatAg • 11:23a, 6/7/21
PatAg said:
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
That's exactly what I've heard. Best analogy a Mexican friend gave me was that it's the equivalent when someone would "insult" someone else in the late 1990s/early 2000s by calling them a "f a g." (TexAgs censors that word....didn't know that)
Which is something we all grew out of doing.
Puto doesn't necessarily mean gay, iirc. Its more like calling a guy a girly-man. I haven't grown out of calling those whining, flopping soccer players a '*****.' Should the Mexican fans be allowed to use ***** instead?
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In reply to tysker • 11:29a, 6/7/21
tysker said:
PatAg said:
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
That's exactly what I've heard. Best analogy a Mexican friend gave me was that it's the equivalent when someone would "insult" someone else in the late 1990s/early 2000s by calling them a "f a g." (TexAgs censors that word....didn't know that)
Which is something we all grew out of doing.
Puto doesn't necessarily mean gay, iirc. Its more like calling a guy a girly-man. I haven't grown out of calling those whining, flopping soccer players a '*****.' Should the Mexican fans be allowed to use ***** instead?


If they started a ***** chant it would be the same thing. Use your brains dude.

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In reply to oh no • 11:36a, 6/7/21
oh no said:
Kevin the 3-legged dog said:
PatAg said:
Marvin said:
Anyone catch the comment about Mexico players trying to tear up the pitch at the penalty spot while the Pulisic VAR was happening? Is this a normal thing or just more typical Mexico?
Normally your ref, or a linemans, would prevent something like that.


What does it matter? Concacaf told the referees that therre would be 22 players at the end of the match. So if the players on a yellow were doing it, they're not getting a caution.
hell, studs up late tackle by a player on a yellow was not even cautioned.
That would've been a second caution.
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In reply to Rudyjax • 11:37a, 6/7/21
Kevin the 3-legged dog said:
tysker said:
PatAg said:
ThunderCougarFalconBird said:
That's exactly what I've heard. Best analogy a Mexican friend gave me was that it's the equivalent when someone would "insult" someone else in the late 1990s/early 2000s by calling them a "f a g." (TexAgs censors that word....didn't know that)
Which is something we all grew out of doing.
Puto doesn't necessarily mean gay, iirc. Its more like calling a guy a girly-man. I haven't grown out of calling those whining, flopping soccer players a '*****.' Should the Mexican fans be allowed to use ***** instead?


If they started a ***** chant it would be the same thing. Use your brains dude.

But why is it wrong and why is FIFA and CONCACAF engaged in enforcement? Should it be acceptable to use the chant during a women's game? It's certainly less offensive in that context. Rules need to clear and consistent in their purpose and enforcement. Again I really don't care I just want rules that makes arent enforced arbitrarily.
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11:40a, 6/7/21
Maybe just don't do either chant. Problem solved.
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In reply to ChipFTAC01 • 11:42a, 6/7/21
ChipFTAC01 said:
I like the new jerseys. I don't remember seeing them wear these yet.


I like them too. Especially the throwback NIKE logo.
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In reply to oragator • 11:43a, 6/7/21
oragator said:
Oh and by the way, was going to write an email to concacaf about finally shutting the Mexican fans down before someone get seriously hurt. But guess what?

https://www.concacaf.com/contact-us/
You can fax it!
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