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houstontexan
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TEXAS SAFARI would have been a key reason for my going to baylor. sad to hear its gone....

baylor and ga tech were the last schools i thought about...school was too small and waco just has nothing to do. makes CS look like vegas, which is hard to do.

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Krispy Kreme.

Unfortunately, most of the dumbarses in this part of the world (around Waco) think there's no place quite like Richland Mall and Lake Waco.
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure a school that offers doctorate degrees is better than one that does not...

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"Katrina hit New Orleans and now I have to go to Baylor."
Yossarian
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Because Tom Delay says A&M is too liberal.

TAMC66
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There is no HELL in Baylor and West is in reasonable driving distance.
XL2Win
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VERY simple ...

1) most can't get into either A&M or tu
2) have Baylor in their family and can't shake the curse
3) both (1) and (2)

Excellence First ...
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Baylor's Engineering Program Highly Rated In U.S. News 'Best Colleges' Survey
Aug. 20, 2004
by Alan Hunt


Baylor University's engineering program climbed impressively to rank as the nation's 14th best in the 2005 edition of America's Best Colleges, compiled by U.S.News & World Report. This is up five spots over last year when Baylor's program was ranked 19th, and an increase of 12 places over 2001, when Baylor ranked 26th in the prestigious U.S. News listing of undergraduate engineering courses without doctoral programs.

Baylor is ranked highest of the four Texas schools included in the survey, which is confined to 145 programs accredited by the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology. Baylor is tied at 14th nationwide with five other schools.

"I am very pleased that we have moved up five places in the rankings," said Dr. Benjamin S. Kelley, dean of the School of Engineering and Computer Science and professor of engineering. "It is an excellent recognition of our accomplishments and a fine tribute to the initiative of our faculty, students and staff. We are looking forward to even greater accomplishments and to continued national recognition of our faculty and students."

Baylor's undergraduate business program at the Hankamer School of Business also is ranked by the U.S.News & World Report, which places it tied with 11 other schools at 77th place among the 375 undergraduate business programs accredited by the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business included in the survey.

Also highly ranked is Hankamer's entrepreneurship program, which is rated by U.S. News at 10th best program in the nation. The Hankamer School of Business, which was among the first schools in the nation to offer an entrepreneurship program in 1977, is tied with New York University (Stern) for 10th spot in the rankings.

U.S. News says its engineering and business school rankings are based solely on the judgments of deans and senior faculty who rated each program they are familiar with on a scale from 1 (marginal) to 5 (distinguished). Baylor's undergraduate engineering program garnered a peer assessment score of 3.2, up from a score of 3.1 last year, and the Hankamer School of Business received a score of 2.8.

Overall, the U.S. News Best Colleges survey places Baylor 84th out of 248 top national doctoral-granting universities included in the rankings. This means Baylor fell back slightly from 78th spot last year, although the differential between 74th place and 84th place in this year's rankings reflects only a two point difference in the overall score. A total of 12 schools are grouped together between the list's 74th and 84th spots with overall scores ranging from 48 to 46. Baylor's overall score is 46.

"With Baylor attracting increasing national attention, and in a competitive marketplace of higher education in which nobody stands still, we are likely to see some fluctuation, year by year, in our public rankings," said Provost David Lyle Jeffrey. "In part this occurs because of the largely subjective elements in the ranking process, and the general tendency for academic improvements to take some years to be noticed. Other factors, extrinsic to academic performance, can also influence the rankings. Nevertheless, we can expect, over time, to see our progress recognized more widely as we implement various elements of Baylor 2012."

U.S. News said the ranking formula for its "Best National Universities" survey relies on several factors, including up to 15 "indicators of academic excellence" it gathers from each school; assessment by administrators at peer institutions; retention of students; faculty resources; student selectivity; financial resources; alumni giving; class size; student/faculty ratio; and graduation rate performance.

In the "classes under 20" category of the survey, Baylor is credited with 37 percent - a jump of one percentage point over last year - and "classes of 50 or more" is listed at 11 percent, which is a one percentage point reduction over last year's figure. Baylor's academic reputation (peer assessment) score is listed as 3.2 out of a possible 5.0, and the average freshman retention rate is 84 percent. The number of faculty who are full time is listed at 94 percent, and Baylor's average alumni giving rate is 25 percent. Thirty-eight percent of Baylor freshmen were in the top 10 percent of their high school class, according to the survey.

The ranking puts Baylor tied for fourth position among Big 12 schools included in the rankings and in fifth place among the 16 Texas universities listed. Baylor is tied for the 84th spot with Iowa State University, another Big 12 school.

The first 129 universities are ranked numerically in the survey of doctoral-granting universities. The others are listed alphabetically in third and fourth tier categories. Two Texas universities are included in the third tier, and eight in the fourth tier. Of the 248 schools in this year's survey, 86 are private and 162 public.

Other Texas schools highly placed in the rankings include Rice University (17th place), University of Texas-Austin (tied for 46th), Texas A&M University (tied for 62nd) and Southern Methodist University (tied for 71st). Texas Christian University is tied for 98th place.

Several of Baylor's graduate programs also were highly ranked in the 2005 Best Graduate Schools rankings released earlier this year by U.S. News & World Report. Included in the magazine's "top" categories were Baylor's law, business, nursing, education, clinical psychology, speech-language pathology, social work and other health-related programs, including the two Baylor-U.S. Army programs operated at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio.

The U.S. News rankings can be found at www.USNews.com. The "America's Best College" newsstand book and the weekly edition of U.S. News & World Report magazine (containing many of the rankings) will both go on sale Monday, Aug. 23.


texasjeremy
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Because you aspire to be more than a farmer. Real question would be why would you want to go to the ag school.
texasjeremy
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zrock, if you were choosing a school based on its football team, its not like you would pick A&M anyway, you would pick Texas.
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For your crow eating pleasure...
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Texas A&M Advances In U.S. News Rankings

Aug. 20, 2004 - Texas A&M University has made a significant move up in U.S. News & World Report rankings, advancing five places among public universities overall, and also advancing in two key areas-engineering and business.
The magazine's 2005 edition of America's Best Colleges, which will be on news stands Monday, shows that Texas A&M is now ranked 22nd among public universities, up from 27th last year.
Texas A&M's Dwight Look College of Engineering is rated as one of the top 10 undergraduate programs among public national universities and the Mays Business School as among the top 20 such programs offered by public universities.
Texas A&M Engineering is ranked eighth among public universities, moving up from ninth last year. It is tied for 16th nationally when including private institutions, one place higher than last year.
The business program ranks 18th among public institutions, two places higher than last year, and tied for 29th overall, up three places from last year.
"We are obviously very pleased to see that our academic progress is being recognized nationally," Texas A&M President Robert M. Gates said. "We are committed to continued enhancement of all of our programs, in keeping with our goal of improving the quality of education here and becoming a consensus 'top ten' public university by the year 2020."
Look College has four specialty areas that the magazine rates among the top five in the nation. Agricultural engineering ranks first in its field, with nuclear engineering placing third in its area and industrial engineering fifth in its category. The magazine does not rank petroleum engineering every year, but its most recent rating placed Texas A&M's program first nationally.
In all, 10 of Texas A&M's 12 engineering disciplines are ranked among the top 20 in the nation.
Vice Chancellor and Dean of Engineering G. Kemble Bennett said the rankings reflect the improvements that are being made throughout the college.
"We are very pleased that Texas A&M Engineering has either increased its rankings or maintained its positions in every category," Bennett said. "It certainly is a well-deserved pat on the back for our outstanding faculty and staff. However, our most important objective has been, and remains, the aggressive pursuit of excellence in engineering education, regardless of the impact it has upon any of the popular measurement tools."
Mays Business School Dean Jerry Strawser was equally enthusiastic about the progress of the program he heads.
"This ranking is a reflection of the excellent work of our faculty and staff as well as the unique learning opportunities we've incorporated into our undergraduate programs," Strawser said. "The momentum of this ranking, along with the additional opportunities the A&M faculty reinvestment initiative provides us, will ensure an even brighter future for business education at Mays."
The Mays Department of Management is now ranked 21st nationally, up three spots from last year. The department ranks 15th among public institutions.

Stephenson

08/20/04


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Baylor=tektards with money
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Important part bolded

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Baylor University's engineering program climbed impressively to rank as the nation's 14th best in the 2005 edition of America's Best Colleges, compiled by U.S.News & World Report. This is up five spots over last year when Baylor's program was ranked 19th, and an increase of 12 places over 2001, when Baylor ranked 26th in the prestigious U.S. News listing of undergraduate engineering courses without doctoral programs.


They don't even rank ya'll the same as the rest of the engineering schools, you're on the short bus of college ranking lists.
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So that ranking was..."Bay-lore"? Heh..sorry.

Baylor, a decent school, especially if you're loaded and strongly religious, but only in the Big12 because Ma Richards insisted.
XL2Win
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Face it ... Baylor is 2nd tier AT BEST. Professional schools (medicine, law, etc) are top notch, but the undergraduate operation ranks right there with pecker tech.

As long as you can pay the tuition, you're in and as long as you keep paying you graduate.

Excellence First ...
Scuba da Pirate
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wow. I have NEVER considered a top school. I thought religious baptists freaks went there or people who couldn't get into the name schools.

I can't even imagine how horrible religous studies would be. To each his own though.
MW_111
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Baylor law is NOT considered top notch. Their graduates do well on the bar exam though.
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Explain this to me.............How can the pic of the girl crying after a major catastrophic natural disaster with the caption now I have to go to Baylor be OK, and when I said my favorite thing about Baylor is that they wipe each other off the face of the planet get banned.

You Know What Alabama Fans and Maggots Have In Common? They Can Live Off A Dead Bear For Years.
El Mariachi de Baylor
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I went to Baylor because I didn't want to go to school in the middle of nowhere (Tech), I didn't want to live on the east coast and be far from my family (Duke), and I didn't want to go to an extremely liberal school full of freaks (Texas). a&m was never even a consideration. I grew up in a family of longhorns, so I grew up not liking a&m. I was going to Texas until I got into high school and actually developed an opinion on politics and weird people.

I wasn't top 10% in high school. I barely missed it. I was 52 out of 486 in HS (10.7%), but my SAT score was high enough and my extracurriculars/sports were good enough to make up for it. I was accepted to UT (which means I would have been accepted to a&m if I had applied).

I know some people that go/went to Baylor that couldn't get into UT or a&m. That's just how it is. But 95% of the people I know/knew at Baylor went there because they wanted to...it was their first choice.
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MW-11,

I live in Virginia. I can inform you that A&M is known outside of Texas. Most average Americans can't tell you that there is a little school in Houston that is top-notch called Rice. They can however tell you that A&M has a pretty cool football team(even though we haven't been good in a while), and they even know some of the traditions we have. Not saying I would rather be known for traditionsor football opposed to academics, but this is how it is.

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Federale, I agree in part. Almost everyone will recognize tu. A minority of non-football fans will recognize A&M and a majority of football fans, but it's almost never given its proper due for academics. It is surprising to me that Rice isn't better known outside of the Southwest since it is the better school academically.
EightiesBear
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A great education. Grant Teaff. 13,000 students instead of 50,000. Three beautiful women to every goofy guy on campus. These were just some of the reasons I chose Baylor. I have no regrets.

EightiesBear.
houstontexan
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mariachi, your only drawback on tech was that its in the middle of nowhere?

i call BS. if you got into duke or even baylor, tech shouldn't be even considered as an option.
flaggie
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Have to agree on the Education point.

My Niece went there after being Valedictorian at her HS (just like her older brother, A&M '98).
She's doing quite well in marketing at a Dallas radio station now.

One Southwest Conference band director of the (Adams) era reportedly said "I dread going against the Aggie Band...It takes two weeks to recover from the trauma."

Essayons,

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Somehow it's hard to take your elitist demeanor seriously seeing as how you're a simpleton from the thriving metropolis of Waxahachie. I actually pity you.
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Quote: Many want religious studies, and for those Baylor is the logical choice.


(Snicker). And for those who want to be able to EARN A LIVING after graduation, A&M is the logical choice......
3rd Generation Ag
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Ag, the ministers I know of all faiths work hard for their money--they earn their living.

AgKJ
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3rd Gen - okay, that came out wrong. When I said "earn a living", I meant make really good money. I wasn't implying that they didn't work hard.

It's a subtle difference in semantics. Kinda like "ass-beating" vs. "beating someone's ass".
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I have no idea where you came up with that info on engineering. As an employer I have NEVER interviewed a baylor grad. I can also tell you that you need to get USNEWS and recheck the rankings. Does bu offer a PHD in engineering? Does it do engineering research? if hte answer was no to either one, they do not inlcude you in the rankings with A&M, texas, or rice. YOu are ranked with other like programs that basically just teach. Now I can honestly tell you there is no way in Hell baylor has a better engineering program than A&M. I know the numbers, watch them, and recruit by them. Baylor has a very small program that can not compete with teh big dollars of the A&M and TExas programs. You need to check out the truth.

OK did some more cheking. Bylor does not offer PHD's in Engineering, hence you would not show up in the same classification with A&M. Whoever wrote that article is pretty naive and needs to learn to do research.

Some more info.

None of the follwoing programs are offered:

1. Chemical Engineering
2. Civil Engineering (how the hell can you not offer a classic in Engnieering)
3. Nuke Engineering
4. Pet. Engineering (Not real popular)

Baylor may have a good school, but dont think for a minute it even compares to A&M, Texas, or Rice.

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"I decided between Northwestern, Baylor and Washington University in St. Louis."

Anybody dumb enough to make that choice is far too stupid to get accepted to Northwestern or Wash U. ZERO CREDIBILITY. Only a drunken monkey would pick Baylor over those two schools - they're actually good. Baylor is a U of H education for Rice tuition.
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I went there a year (Baylor). It sucked a big one. I transferred to A&M as quickly as I could. Best decision of my life. Classes were much more competitive & I learned a ton more at A&M. College Station is a much much much better college town & atmosphere. Waco's a slum!
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I went there a year (Baylor). It sucked a big one. I transferred to A&M as quickly as I could. Best decision of my life. Classes were much more competitive & I learned a ton more at A&M. College Station is a much much much better college town & atmosphere. Waco's a slum!
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I went there a year (Baylor). It sucked a big one. I transferred to A&M as quickly as I could. Best decision of my life. Classes were much more competitive & I learned a ton more at A&M. College Station is a much much much better college town & atmosphere. Waco's a slum!
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SEE!!! In the last 60 seconds alone we have heard from THREE different people who started at Baylor and then transferred to A&M as quickly as possible.

So take THAT, stupid baylor!!!!
Ol Jock 99
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If fact, that year was so bad that it still makes RiverAg post the same thing 3 times!
 
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