AgDad121619 said:

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The Banned said:

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Mr. Fingerbottom said:

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sodycracker said:

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Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

Stankey's back room deals (I.e. bad tv deals, scheduling favoritism, putting tu & 0u in the conference, etc) are imploding on him.

If tu were a human, his name would be Stankey

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Sankey got rich off sip to sec... He sold the entire conference down the river bc he was offered backdoor money from sip & Disney....



His salary from the sec is pennies compared to what he sold his soul for....

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He let Texas and OU in because he had to. If they had gone to the B1G, the future of the SEC would be buried. Still doesn't look good, but it would have been game over. The B1G is five steps ahead of sankey.

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this is a weak take - SEC would have been just fine if we hadn't added tu/OU. If we get any extra money from their addition , it will be when next contract is negotiated for 2034

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Let's walk through this.

The B1G takes Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA, TX, and OU. They get paid ~10 million more per school than the SEC already, due to their creative tv model but this may have brought even more tv partners to the table.

The SEC stands pat with 14 teams to the B1G's 20. Next step: the ACC implodes, and some valuable teams need a home. Do they pick the larger, richer conference with a national footprint? Or do they pick the smaller, poorer conference that is focused on the Deep South?

It doesn't take a genius to make the right choice there. Keeping the B1G out of the south was 100% conference self-preservation. I'll say this yet again: if the SEC doesn't get 100% of the best ACC schools when it inevitably implodes, the B1G has won because of the revenue gap that will be created by having the singular national power
Conference. The regional SEC will not be able to keep up.

Now, if the SEC can get the important ACC pieces, the country footprint is split. This can lead to a somewhat even negotiation process. But this is impossible if the B1G is already in the south, which is exactly what would have happen if Texas and OU went B1G.

Any thoughts that the SEC would be fine without the two **** schools we just admitted are correct…. Assuming the status quo remains. But the B1G raid of the PAC is indicative of what happens to the ACC next. It's asset acquisition and we're behind despite the "addition" of sip and sooner.

fla_agfan said:

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The Banned said:

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sodycracker said:

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Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

Stankey's back room deals (I.e. bad tv deals, scheduling favoritism, putting tu & 0u in the conference, etc) are imploding on him.

If tu were a human, his name would be Stankey

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Going all in with ESPN was status quo thinking. The B1G thought bigger and brought multiple media outlets tot he table, getting a much bigger payout as a result.

Unless he is fired and replaced with someone capable of winning ALL of the major ACC pieces over to the SEC, then the B1G will decide how that eventual "merger" goes

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Guaranteed the next guy will be a tu guy and do their bidding

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What do you mean "the next guy"? You just described Snakey to a T

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We should be evaluating what's the best interest for A&M, and a B1G invite should definitely not be scoffed at

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Exactly. It's not about running from Texas or any of that other crap.

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And yet you know as well as I do that that's EXACTLY how it would be painted. FTR I'm all for staying in the SEC. Turncoat scumbags that they are.

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We should be evaluating what's the best interest for A&M, and a B1G invite should definitely not be scoffed at

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Exactly. It's not about running from Texas or any of that other crap.

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And yet you know as well as I do that that's EXACTLY how it would be painted. FTR I'm all for staying in the SEC. Turncoat scumbags that they are.

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Yet running to the SEC was painted as delusional because "we couldn't even compete in the big 12". Sometimes you have t

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Mr Greg Sankey (Commissioner)
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MidlandOil$ said:

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Has to be so sad right now. 2nd year in a row that SEC has ZERO teams in the NC game.

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While true this year certainly validates his decision to add horn.

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this is a weak take - SEC would have been just fine if we hadn't added tu/OU. If we get any extra money from their addition , it will be when next contract is negotiated for 2034

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Just fine? Probably. But you just have maroon blinders on. The SEC had a chance to add 2 of the biggest names, maybe the biggest, to the conference instead of letting the biggest competition snap them up. It's about money, and it defiantly made the conference more valuable.

In terms of dollars and revenue why is tu viewed as a poor addition to the SEC?

I get the hate and all the baggage but SEC is $$$ focused so how does their addition not make sense...

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In terms of dollars and revenue why is tu viewed as a poor addition to the SEC?

I get the hate and all the baggage but SEC is $$$ focused so how does their addition not make sense...

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It only does for us. It lessens the value we brought to the SEC. We are no longer the only team in Texas in the SEC. The one advantage we had over them is gone. It really only hurts us, although not monetarily.

**** the SEC

After the roo-roo job with tu, I am glad the sec is not represented in the big game. I can only hope the other teams tank while A&M dominates.

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Yep. our " 100 yr decision" needs to be a 15 yr decision. We are primed to be courted by the B1G, and we should explore that.

Nothing in college football is set anymore. These should all be 10 yr plans, if that.

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Better plan. We stay in the SEC and beat them every year.

The Banned said:

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AgDad121619 said:

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The Banned said:

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Mr. Fingerbottom said:

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sodycracker said:

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Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

Stankey's back room deals (I.e. bad tv deals, scheduling favoritism, putting tu & 0u in the conference, etc) are imploding on him.

If tu were a human, his name would be Stankey

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Sankey got rich off sip to sec... He sold the entire conference down the river bc he was offered backdoor money from sip & Disney....



His salary from the sec is pennies compared to what he sold his soul for....

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He let Texas and OU in because he had to. If they had gone to the B1G, the future of the SEC would be buried. Still doesn't look good, but it would have been game over. The B1G is five steps ahead of sankey.

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this is a weak take - SEC would have been just fine if we hadn't added tu/OU. If we get any extra money from their addition , it will be when next contract is negotiated for 2034

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Let's walk through this.

The B1G takes Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA, TX, and OU. They get paid ~10 million more per school than the SEC already, due to their creative tv model but this may have brought even more tv partners to the table.

The SEC stands pat with 14 teams to the B1G's 20. Next step: the ACC implodes, and some valuable teams need a home. Do they pick the larger, richer conference with a national footprint? Or do they pick the smaller, poorer conference that is focused on the Deep South?

It doesn't take a genius to make the right choice there. Keeping the B1G out of the south was 100% conference self-preservation. I'll say this yet again: if the SEC doesn't get 100% of the best ACC schools when it inevitably implodes, the B1G has won because of the revenue gap that will be created by having the singular national power
Conference. The regional SEC will not be able to keep up.

Now, if the SEC can get the important ACC pieces, the country footprint is split. This can lead to a somewhat even negotiation process. But this is impossible if the B1G is already in the south, which is exactly what would have happen if Texas and OU went B1G.

Any thoughts that the SEC would be fine without the two **** schools we just admitted are correct…. Assuming the status quo remains. But the B1G raid of the PAC is indicative of what happens to the ACC next. It's asset acquisition and we're behind despite the "addition" of sip and sooner.

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Did the original big 10 schools get a pay raise when they added the PAC 12 schools? Adding Sip and blow brought no more money to the other sec schools, Sip and blow got a pay raise though.

Sankey's report card for expansion is how many people watched OU and horn play football. By that measure, his decision was a complete success.

This is kind of interesting. Here are the 21 most watched games of the 2024 regular season according to sports media watch. If you look at the two expansions from the SEC and B10. () indicates how many games each team played in the top 21.

SEC
Texas (5)
A&M (2)
OU (1)
Mizzou (0)

B10
Oregon (2)
USC (1)
UCLA (0)
Washington (0)
Nebraska (0)
Maryland (0)
Rutgers (0)

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

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TexasAggie_97 said:

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My loyalty is to A&M not the SEC. If we are not playing for the national championship then I could not care less if the SEC has a school in the game. Of course I never want to see t.u. There so that's my in exception.

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Also the B1G has become the premier conference...

More money, more success


Why any Ag is still clinging to waving an sec flag is baffling

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I'm not. Actively pull against all SEC teams. Hate the SEC.

rootube said:

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Sankey's report card for expansion is how many people watched OU and horn play football. By that measure, his decision was a complete success.

This is kind of interesting. Here are the 21 most watched games of the 2024 regular season according to sports media watch. If you look at the two expansions from the SEC and B10. () indicates how many games each team played in the top 21.

SEC
Texas (5)
A&M (2)
OU (1)
Mizzou (0)

B10
Oregon (2)
USC (1)
UCLA (0)
Washington (0)
Nebraska (0)
Maryland (0)
Rutgers (0)

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And yet the B1G's media deal nets more per school than ours. Really makes you think

TexasAggie_97 said:

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My loyalty is to A&M not the SEC. If we are not playing for the national championship then I could not care less if the SEC has a school in the game. Of course I never want to see t.u. There so that's my in exception.

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I was proud of being in the SEC for the first 6-7 years (and still like being in it given the status and competition), but have zero loyalty to this conference or pride in other teams doing well. Guess I've settled in.

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rootube said:

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Sankey's report card for expansion is how many people watched OU and horn play football. By that measure, his decision was a complete success.

This is kind of interesting. Here are the 21 most watched games of the 2024 regular season according to sports media watch. If you look at the two expansions from the SEC and B10. () indicates how many games each team played in the top 21.

SEC
Texas (5)
A&M (2)
OU (1)
Mizzou (0)

B10
Oregon (2)
USC (1)
UCLA (0)
Washington (0)
Nebraska (0)
Maryland (0)
Rutgers (0)

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And yet the B1G's media deal nets more per school than ours. Really makes you think

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Michigan and OSU are ratings powerhouses but if you count viewership it's not even close between the B10 and the SEC. I have a feeling the next TV deal will reflect that reality. I also suspect there will eventually be yet another round of consolidation with the ACC at some point.

rootube said:

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The Banned said:

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rootube said:

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Sankey's report card for expansion is how many people watched OU and horn play football. By that measure, his decision was a complete success.

This is kind of interesting. Here are the 21 most watched games of the 2024 regular season according to sports media watch. If you look at the two expansions from the SEC and B10. () indicates how many games each team played in the top 21.

SEC
Texas (5)
A&M (2)
OU (1)
Mizzou (0)

B10
Oregon (2)
USC (1)
UCLA (0)
Washington (0)
Nebraska (0)
Maryland (0)
Rutgers (0)

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And yet the B1G's media deal nets more per school than ours. Really makes you think

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Michigan and OSU are ratings powerhouses but if you count viewership it's not even close between the B10 and the SEC. I have a feeling the next TV deal will reflect that reality. I also suspect there will eventually be yet another round of consolidation with the ACC at some point.

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This isn't true. Total viewership is almost the same. The reason the B1G makes more is because Sankey was simple minded and went with ESPN only. The B1G worked out a deal to bring multiple carriers to the table and got paid more for it.

The ACC will crumble. Which conference they pick is likely going to be based off of potential dollars. If the ACC picks the B1G, they will massively surpass us in total revenue

So why not add Florida State and Clemson?

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So why not add Florida State and Clemson?

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ACC has to crumble first. Too expensive at the moment, but that will change. When that happens the SEC and the B1G will fight over them and several other ACC programs.

Mainly because I hate the sips, but I think the SEC would have been better off as a whole in the long run by adding UNC, VT, Clemson and (or) FSU than adding OU and tu.

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Mainly because I hate the sips, but I think the SEC would have been better off as a whole in the long run by adding UNC, VT, Clemson and (or) FSU than adding OU and tu.

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It still might. Have to wait and see what happens after the ACC fails

stupid sankey and effing stooges A&M rep to SEC>

should have demanded texas and 0u admit as jr members with less pay out for several years as Big does to their addition.

did SEC plans same $ distribution to texas and 0u from the get go? if so stupid effing dumb bich$$. SEC forgot to do due diligence and neglect fiduciary responsibility to current SEC membership...

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stupid sankey and effing stooges A&M rep to SEC>

should have demanded texas and 0u admit as jr members with less pay out for several years as Big does to their addition.

did SEC plans same $ distribution to texas and 0u from the get go? if so stupid effing dumb bich$$. SEC forgot to do due diligence and neglect fiduciary responsibility to current SEC membership...

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There is no way to verify it, but it's highly probably that the reason that tu and ou went SEC is precisely because we didn't offer them junior membership

Mr. Fingerbottom said:

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TexasAggie_97 said:

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My loyalty is to A&M not the SEC. If we are not playing for the national championship then I could not care less if the SEC has a school in the game. Of course I never want to see t.u. There so that's my in exception.

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Also the B1G has become the premier conference...

More money, more success


Why any Ag is still clinging to waving an sec flag is baffling

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Still not on that bandwagon. The BIG freaking blows and Penn State would have never been in the playoffs without their cake of a schedule. Indiana was a complete joke and it was evident mid season. The BIG is extremely top heavy. After the top 4, one of which was only there because of a historically easy schedule, the rest of the conference was the equivalent of Arkansas and Kentucky at best, and the bottom quarter likely wouldn't win a game in the SEC. Michigan couldn't complete a forward pass and was able to halfway compete against the top teams in the conference.

Illinois beat the SCar team that stomped us.

Orangutan said:

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Illinois beat the SCar team that stomped us.

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There are plenty of examples of how SEC dominance has waned, but few want to deal with that fact. It's not that the SEC sucks now. The B1G has just caught up

The Banned said:

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rootube said:

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The Banned said:

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rootube said:

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Sankey's report card for expansion is how many people watched OU and horn play football. By that measure, his decision was a complete success.

This is kind of interesting. Here are the 21 most watched games of the 2024 regular season according to sports media watch. If you look at the two expansions from the SEC and B10. () indicates how many games each team played in the top 21.

SEC
Texas (5)
A&M (2)
OU (1)
Mizzou (0)

B10
Oregon (2)
USC (1)
UCLA (0)
Washington (0)
Nebraska (0)
Maryland (0)
Rutgers (0)

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And yet the B1G's media deal nets more per school than ours. Really makes you think

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Michigan and OSU are ratings powerhouses but if you count viewership it's not even close between the B10 and the SEC. I have a feeling the next TV deal will reflect that reality. I also suspect there will eventually be yet another round of consolidation with the ACC at some point.

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This isn't true. Total viewership is almost the same. The reason the B1G makes more is because Sankey was simple minded and went with ESPN only. The B1G worked out a deal to bring multiple carriers to the table and got paid more for it.

The ACC will crumble. Which conference they pick is likely going to be based off of potential dollars. If the ACC picks the B1G, they will massively surpass us in total revenue

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It's literally not the same they track these things and the SEC has significantly more viewership.

The Banned said:

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OKC~Ag said:

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stupid sankey and effing stooges A&M rep to SEC>

should have demanded texas and 0u admit as jr members with less pay out for several years as Big does to their addition.

did SEC plans same $ distribution to texas and 0u from the get go? if so stupid effing dumb bich$$. SEC forgot to do due diligence and neglect fiduciary responsibility to current SEC membership...

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There is no way to verify it, but it's highly probably that the reason that tu and ou went SEC is precisely because we didn't offer them junior membership

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Big would have taken texas but not 0u since 0u is a dumb school...too bad it worked out this way...

ESPN purchased their spots in the conference with promises of more money for everybody. I'm sure Snakeys's bank account don't care.

rootube said:

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The Banned said:

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rootube said:

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The Banned said:

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rootube said:

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Sankey's report card for expansion is how many people watched OU and horn play football. By that measure, his decision was a complete success.

This is kind of interesting. Here are the 21 most watched games of the 2024 regular season according to sports media watch. If you look at the two expansions from the SEC and B10. () indicates how many games each team played in the top 21.

SEC
Texas (5)
A&M (2)
OU (1)
Mizzou (0)

B10
Oregon (2)
USC (1)
UCLA (0)
Washington (0)
Nebraska (0)
Maryland (0)
Rutgers (0)

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And yet the B1G's media deal nets more per school than ours. Really makes you think

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Michigan and OSU are ratings powerhouses but if you count viewership it's not even close between the B10 and the SEC. I have a feeling the next TV deal will reflect that reality. I also suspect there will eventually be yet another round of consolidation with the ACC at some point.

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This isn't true. Total viewership is almost the same. The reason the B1G makes more is because Sankey was simple minded and went with ESPN only. The B1G worked out a deal to bring multiple carriers to the table and got paid more for it.

The ACC will crumble. Which conference they pick is likely going to be based off of potential dollars. If the ACC picks the B1G, they will massively surpass us in total revenue

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It's literally not the same they track these things and the SEC has significantly more viewership.

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And if you search for TOTAL viewership it's incredibly difficult to find, but it's there. TOTAL viewership is the same. PER GAME viewership belongs to the SEC.

OKC~Ag said:

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The Banned said:

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OKC~Ag said:

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stupid sankey and effing stooges A&M rep to SEC>

should have demanded texas and 0u admit as jr members with less pay out for several years as Big does to their addition.

did SEC plans same $ distribution to texas and 0u from the get go? if so stupid effing dumb bich$$. SEC forgot to do due diligence and neglect fiduciary responsibility to current SEC membership...

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There is no way to verify it, but it's highly probably that the reason that tu and ou went SEC is precisely because we didn't offer them junior membership

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Big would have taken texas but not 0u since 0u is a dumb school...too bad it worked out this way...

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Maybe. For all the intelligent moves the B1G has made, it's hard to see them being this stupid, but it is possible.

Mike Slive is rolling over in his grave.

ElephantRider said:

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Mike Slive is rolling over in his grave.

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Doubtful. I have no clue why anyone idealizes Mike Slive or the SEC. The entity is in the business of making filthy money. Slive would have sold his mother out for a few more bucks. It is best to not take these business decisions personally.

The people really in charge could not care less if a few thousand Aggie fans are put out by the inclusion of Oklahoma and Texas in conference expansion.