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For sure. If he gets to be a 65% passer A&M is going to difficult for anyone to beat. He's at ~60% and his TD to int ratio is perfect. He's proven he can be accurate, a little more consistency and he has Heisman potential.

This dude was a damn find! His poise is next level as a freshman.

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55.6% completion percentage is not ~60%

If he can become more accurate passer he has a chance to be an elite QB but he was only a 56% passer in high school. Plus he has work to do on seeing the field in passing situations but he's an elite runner.

He's still young so there is time for him to improve but he has a way to go with his passes.

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There you go again. Trying to kill the Reed hype. What is Connor's completion percentage? Does Connor have a way to go with his passing in your opinion?

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For sure. If he gets to be a 65% passer A&M is going to difficult for anyone to beat. He's at ~60% and his TD to int ratio is perfect. He's proven he can be accurate, a little more consistency and he has Heisman potential.

This dude was a damn find! His poise is next level as a freshman.

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55.6% completion percentage is not ~60%

If he can become more accurate passer he has a chance to be an elite QB but he was only a 56% passer in high school. Plus he has work to do on seeing the field in passing situations but he's an elite runner.

He's still young so there is time for him to improve but he has a way to go with his passes.

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There you go again. Trying to kill the Reed hype. What is Connor's completion percentage? Does Connor have a way to go with his passing in your opinion?

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No I'm not. I don't have an agenda.

Some of you get way to attached and emotional about all this.

Conner is an amazing passer but there seems to be issues with the mental side of things.

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Reed's completion % needs to improve but he doesn't turn the ball over either . There is plenty to work with and I feel like he's a good decision maker. Couple that with the threat he provides with his legs and there is much potential.

I dunno what the deal is with Weigman. I know he has the talent but hasn't been consistent since his injury. Confidence level just doesn't seem to be there.

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There are concerns with Reed but one thing he's been great and consistent with so far is TOs. Plus he does seem to have that It factor. If he can become a better passer he has a chance to be elite. Right now he's started 3 games and in 2 of them our offense has been slowed.

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And connor's offenses have been completely shut down, not just slowed, in 2 games. Like shut down in we aren't score more than 14. That's not gonna win any games

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For sure. If he gets to be a 65% passer A&M is going to difficult for anyone to beat. He's at ~60% and his TD to int ratio is perfect. He's proven he can be accurate, a little more consistency and he has Heisman potential.

This dude was a damn find! His poise is next level as a freshman.

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55.6% completion percentage is not ~60%

If he can become more accurate passer he has a chance to be an elite QB but he was only a 56% passer in high school. Plus he has work to do on seeing the field in passing situations but he's an elite runner.

He's still young so there is time for him to improve but he has a way to go with his passes.

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There you go again. Trying to kill the Reed hype. What is Connor's completion percentage? Does Connor have a way to go with his passing in your opinion?

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jeez, all this butthurt for no reason.
Conveying some Reed truths doesn't mean anyone's trying to kill any Reed hype.

Yes, his feet were the difference against LSU, and they never really adjusted for it. But that's great, because it worked out awesome for us. They stayed on their heels, purely from his added dynamic to the run game. He threw 2 passes total, and both were great balls.

But not that long ago, this same Marcel Reed looked pretty good against UF, but then struggled mightily against Bowling Green and Arkansas. They prepped for him, stacked the box to limit our run game and contain his feet, which forced him to have to beat them with his arm. And it wasn't pretty. The offense sputtered, and we barely squeaked by in both games.

Nobody's trying to say that CW's comparatively a superstar or a Heisman hopeful right now. He's not.
But it's very fair to say that Reed's still very raw, particularly in the passing game, and that the expectations should be curbed based on what we've seen thus far.

play calling needs to put him in the best positions to succeed. Go back and look at that first drive against Florida and then tell me he can't be an accurate passer. Rewatch the OkSt bowl game and watch him sling it. A big part of QB is also confidence, and I'm hoping that game saturday can carry over for him. I think his ceiling is very high. And if you take away the run game. Most QBs are going to struggle. Look at what we did to Nuss on saturday or what teams do to the Cowboys every week

against P5 competition Connor's and Reed's completion percentage are practically identical, as is yardage.

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But there is still discussion on who should start, and there are people saying Reed holds back our offense.

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Because Reed has. But so has Conner so it's not a simple decision.

It would be much easier if we weren't in the playoff picture.

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Every game Reed is starting our offense scores, even his worst game, Arkansas, he played better than weigman has all season except for one game against Missouri (who is literally awful)

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Everyone keeps wanting to give Conner chances because he is the 5 star with "next level arm talent"

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Everyone? I see more posters that are for moving forward with Reed than I do for Conner. I think you're trying to stir something up that's not there.

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Bro, u are annoying asf. OBVIOUSLY not everyone, but a lot of people. I'm not trying to stir anything up, I literally said Marcel is better than weigman and you're mad. TexAgs is crazy sometimes

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Marcel Reed was not a "find". He was a high four star with offers from Bama and literally everyone else.

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LOL and we flipped him from Ole Miss...

So many emotional responses. It's kind of funny

Accurate. I also think peoples' judgements are being clouded by the W/L attached to our QB's performances.

Reed truthers don't seem to want to acknowledge his poor play vs Arky and Bowling Green because we won those games. We won those games because Arky and BG are pretty bad teams, not because Reed has some magical ability to always win games he plays in regardless of performance.

Both QBs have serious flaws, Conner's are just more surprising since they seemed to come from nowhere. Hopefully we win out the rest of the season and both guys get coached up in the offseason

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So many emotional responses. It's kind of funny

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Right? So much for conversation.

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Accurate. I also think peoples' judgements are being clouded by the W/L attached to our QB's performances.

Reed truthers don't seem to want to acknowledge his poor play vs Arky and Bowling Green because we won those games. We won those games because Arky and BG are pretty bad teams, not because Reed has some magical ability to always win games he plays in regardless of performance.

Both QBs have serious flaws, Conner's are just more surprising since they seemed to come from nowhere. Hopefully we win out the rest of the season and both guys get coached up in the offseason

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I agree with everything you just said. But I also people are thinking hopeful and want to see if this is Reed actually turning a corner with this momentum and watch what could potentially be a significant moment in Aggie lore. Optimist in me can't blame them for that? Down side is truly a tough predicament because we thought we had that potentially in Weigman but time is quickly running out for him. Which I also hate. Good luck with this Coaches! Just make it work.

I'm not. He's the real deal. Just hope our fans don't freak out when he has a bad play.

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I don't understand this dumb idea that has pervaded this board for several years that "completion percentage" is an absolute proxy for a quarterback's accuracy, and also that accuracy is just inherent and can never improve. Its asinine. Obviously a quarterback has a lot of impact on it, but honestly what type of offense are you running, what type of throws are you being asked to make is a huge factor in what your completion percentage is by itself.

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There have been some small scale case studies that have shown very few college quarterbacks improve their completion percentage from high school by more than a few points. Completion percentage is a good, though imperfect, proxy for the combination of decision and accuracy. It is a very imperfect proxy for the impact the QB has because completing 50% of deep throws is much more impactful than completing 90% of short throws. That being said Marcel's biggest struggle has been on the deep throws so his overall impact in the passing game is not buoyed by the fact he's hitting downfield throws at a similar clip to his short throws.

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Marcel has also struggled with mid range outside the numbers. He's good in the short game and over the middle but really bad outside the numbers and deep.

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Then explain Florida

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I don't understand this dumb idea that has pervaded this board for several years that "completion percentage" is an absolute proxy for a quarterback's accuracy, and also that accuracy is just inherent and can never improve. Its asinine. Obviously a quarterback has a lot of impact on it, but honestly what type of offense are you running, what type of throws are you being asked to make is a huge factor in what your completion percentage is by itself.

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There have been some small scale case studies that have shown very few college quarterbacks improve their completion percentage from high school by more than a few points. Completion percentage is a good, though imperfect, proxy for the combination of decision and accuracy. It is a very imperfect proxy for the impact the QB has because completing 50% of deep throws is much more impactful than completing 90% of short throws. That being said Marcel's biggest struggle has been on the deep throws so his overall impact in the passing game is not buoyed by the fact he's hitting downfield throws at a similar clip to his short throws.

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Marcel has also struggled with mid range outside the numbers. He's good in the short game and over the middle but really bad outside the numbers and deep.

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everyone is going to say "they didn't prepare" for Marcel.

Here's the truth:
A bad Marcel Reed is still better than a bad Conner (because of his rushing)
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A good Marcel Reed is also better than a good Conner
(Because his rushing opens up the passing game)

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Everyone keeps wanting to give Conner chances because he is the 5 star with "next level arm talent"

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Everyone? I see more posters that are for moving forward with Reed than I do for Conner. I think you're trying to stir something up that's not there.

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Bro, u are annoying asf. OBVIOUSLY not everyone, but a lot of people. I'm not trying to stir anything up, I literally said Marcel is better than weigman and you're mad. TexAgs is crazy sometimes

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Accurate. I also think peoples' judgements are being clouded by the W/L attached to our QB's performances.

Reed truthers don't seem to want to acknowledge his poor play vs Arky and Bowling Green because we won those games. We won those games because Arky and BG are pretty bad teams, not because Reed has some magical ability to always win games he plays in regardless of performance.

Both QBs have serious flaws, Conner's are just more surprising since they seemed to come from nowhere. Hopefully we win out the rest of the season and both guys get coached up in the offseason

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We also won those Arky and BG games because Reed didn't make any catastrophic mistakes. Not a single turnover. That is often how you win those tight games. Avoiding the big mistake.

South Carolina feasts on pressuring the QB and creating turnovers. I trust Reed more right now than Conner that he won't get overwhelmed by the pressure and throw it to the other team. I'd gladly trade a few more completions by Weigman to instead not have a really bad throw (or sack that Reed might have been able to a avoid) that gifts South Carolina easy points.

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Accurate. I also think peoples' judgements are being clouded by the W/L attached to our QB's performances.

Reed truthers don't seem to want to acknowledge his poor play vs Arky and Bowling Green because we won those games. We won those games because Arky and BG are pretty bad teams, not because Reed has some magical ability to always win games he plays in regardless of performance.

Both QBs have serious flaws, Conner's are just more surprising since they seemed to come from nowhere. Hopefully we win out the rest of the season and both guys get coached up in the offseason

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We also won those Arky and BG games because Reed didn't make any catastrophic mistakes. Not a single turnover. That is often how you win those tight games. Avoiding the big mistake.

South Carolina feasts on pressuring the QB and cresting turnovers. I trust Reed more right now than Conner that he won't get overwhelmed by the pressure and throw it to the other team. I'd gladly trade a few more completions by Weigman to not have a really bad throw that gifts South Carolina easy points.

Weigman however has been turnover prone. I would trade

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I agree with you, the one thing I don't agree with is "I'll glad trade a few more completions by weigman" to not have turnovers.

I agree with this statement, but what I dont agree with is that weigman throws more completions. Weigman has done nothing to show he is a better passer than Marcel this year, previous years he had some great passing games, but this year, Marcel has better passing stats

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I don't understand this dumb idea that has pervaded this board for several years that "completion percentage" is an absolute proxy for a quarterback's accuracy, and also that accuracy is just inherent and can never improve. Its asinine. Obviously a quarterback has a lot of impact on it, but honestly what type of offense are you running, what type of throws are you being asked to make is a huge factor in what your completion percentage is by itself.

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There have been some small scale case studies that have shown very few college quarterbacks improve their completion percentage from high school by more than a few points. Completion percentage is a good, though imperfect, proxy for the combination of decision and accuracy. It is a very imperfect proxy for the impact the QB has because completing 50% of deep throws is much more impactful than completing 90% of short throws. That being said Marcel's biggest struggle has been on the deep throws so his overall impact in the passing game is not buoyed by the fact he's hitting downfield throws at a similar clip to his short throws.

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Marcel has also struggled with mid range outside the numbers. He's good in the short game and over the middle but really bad outside the numbers and deep.

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Then explain Florida

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He went 11/17. He didn't light Florida up through the air. When he played teams that prepped for his running ability, he got slowed down. That's the whole point.

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Accurate. I also think peoples' judgements are being clouded by the W/L attached to our QB's performances.

Reed truthers don't seem to want to acknowledge his poor play vs Arky and Bowling Green because we won those games. We won those games because Arky and BG are pretty bad teams, not because Reed has some magical ability to always win games he plays in regardless of performance.

Both QBs have serious flaws, Conner's are just more surprising since they seemed to come from nowhere. Hopefully we win out the rest of the season and both guys get coached up in the offseason

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We also won those Arky and BG games because Reed didn't make any catastrophic mistakes. Not a single turnover. That is often how you win those tight games. Avoiding the big mistake.

South Carolina feasts on pressuring the QB and cresting turnovers. I trust Reed more right now than Conner that he won't get overwhelmed by the pressure and throw it to the other team. I'd gladly trade a few more completions by Weigman to not have a really bad throw that gifts South Carolina easy points.

Weigman however has been turnover prone. I would trade

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I agree with you, the one thing I don't agree with is "I'll glad trade a few more completions by weigman" to not have turnovers.

I agree with this statement, but what I dont agree with is that weigman throws more completions. Weigman has done nothing to show he is a better passer than Marcel this year, previous years he had some great passing games, but this year, Marcel has better passing stats

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Then if Weigman is not even completing more passes (notably better accuracy than Reed) AND he has been more turnover prone AND he is not as good a runner….I don't see how Weigman could be the choice right now.

He's not

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I don't understand this dumb idea that has pervaded this board for several years that "completion percentage" is an absolute proxy for a quarterback's accuracy, and also that accuracy is just inherent and can never improve. Its asinine. Obviously a quarterback has a lot of impact on it, but honestly what type of offense are you running, what type of throws are you being asked to make is a huge factor in what your completion percentage is by itself.

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There have been some small scale case studies that have shown very few college quarterbacks improve their completion percentage from high school by more than a few points. Completion percentage is a good, though imperfect, proxy for the combination of decision and accuracy. It is a very imperfect proxy for the impact the QB has because completing 50% of deep throws is much more impactful than completing 90% of short throws. That being said Marcel's biggest struggle has been on the deep throws so his overall impact in the passing game is not buoyed by the fact he's hitting downfield throws at a similar clip to his short throws.

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Marcel has also struggled with mid range outside the numbers. He's good in the short game and over the middle but really bad outside the numbers and deep.

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Then explain Florida

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He went 11/17. He didn't light Florida up through the air. When he played teams that prepped for his running ability, he got slowed down. That's the whole point.

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He got slowed down in cases but he never fumbled or threw an INT or ever seemed flustered whatsoever. That matters A LOT.

I have 100% confidence from what we've seen from him that Reed won't be bothered or overwhelmed by hostile SEC night road game. Even when he's getting slowed down, the guy has always looked ready to land his next punch. I don't have the same confidence right now regarding Weigman.

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He does need to take a few downfield shots when available during the game. That was his issue earlier in the season when teams didn't respect his arm. Glad to see him complete 1 to Noah Thomas in the LSU game. If he can hit 2-3 of those per game watch out because this offense will be wide open.

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TEs will be his best friend in that regard. If we can force teams to spy on him with an LB or S, then it opens up the space right behind them in the middle of the field for TEs working up the field and RB seam routes

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I don't understand this dumb idea that has pervaded this board for several years that "completion percentage" is an absolute proxy for a quarterback's accuracy, and also that accuracy is just inherent and can never improve. Its asinine. Obviously a quarterback has a lot of impact on it, but honestly what type of offense are you running, what type of throws are you being asked to make is a huge factor in what your completion percentage is by itself.

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There have been some small scale case studies that have shown very few college quarterbacks improve their completion percentage from high school by more than a few points. Completion percentage is a good, though imperfect, proxy for the combination of decision and accuracy. It is a very imperfect proxy for the impact the QB has because completing 50% of deep throws is much more impactful than completing 90% of short throws. That being said Marcel's biggest struggle has been on the deep throws so his overall impact in the passing game is not buoyed by the fact he's hitting downfield throws at a similar clip to his short throws.

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Marcel has also struggled with mid range outside the numbers. He's good in the short game and over the middle but really bad outside the numbers and deep.

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Then explain Florida

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He went 11/17. He didn't light Florida up through the air. When he played teams that prepped for his running ability, he got slowed down. That's the whole point.

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He got slowed down in cases but he never fumbled or threw an INT or ever seemed flustered whatsoever. That matters A LOT.

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So if he's contained against USC and can't hit his passes ala Arkansas, it makes sense to just keep doing it? When Conner clearly couldn't get the team moving, it was obvious to make the switch to Reed. I'm ok with that. But so many people on here seem to be Reed or bust going forward.

We have a chance to do something really special this year. I don't give a rats ass which QB does it. I don't understand the ride or die with Reed mentality. Arkansas came down to a strip sack by Scourton to end it. We forced 3 turnovers and barely escaped. If we end up in that situation, I'm all for giving CW a chance. Whatever it takes to win

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I don't understand this dumb idea that has pervaded this board for several years that "completion percentage" is an absolute proxy for a quarterback's accuracy, and also that accuracy is just inherent and can never improve. Its asinine. Obviously a quarterback has a lot of impact on it, but honestly what type of offense are you running, what type of throws are you being asked to make is a huge factor in what your completion percentage is by itself.

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There have been some small scale case studies that have shown very few college quarterbacks improve their completion percentage from high school by more than a few points. Completion percentage is a good, though imperfect, proxy for the combination of decision and accuracy. It is a very imperfect proxy for the impact the QB has because completing 50% of deep throws is much more impactful than completing 90% of short throws. That being said Marcel's biggest struggle has been on the deep throws so his overall impact in the passing game is not buoyed by the fact he's hitting downfield throws at a similar clip to his short throws.

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Marcel has also struggled with mid range outside the numbers. He's good in the short game and over the middle but really bad outside the numbers and deep.

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One game but looking at states he was something like 6/25 on deep balls or outside the numbers.

I don't remember the exact number but it was awful. I'm not saying Reed shouldn't start. I'm just saying he hasnt dhown he's the definite answer yet either.

If he gets another chance I hope he capitalizes and becomes the no-brainer QB1. Same for Conner. I just want to win

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I don't understand this dumb idea that has pervaded this board for several years that "completion percentage" is an absolute proxy for a quarterback's accuracy, and also that accuracy is just inherent and can never improve. Its asinine. Obviously a quarterback has a lot of impact on it, but honestly what type of offense are you running, what type of throws are you being asked to make is a huge factor in what your completion percentage is by itself.

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There have been some small scale case studies that have shown very few college quarterbacks improve their completion percentage from high school by more than a few points. Completion percentage is a good, though imperfect, proxy for the combination of decision and accuracy. It is a very imperfect proxy for the impact the QB has because completing 50% of deep throws is much more impactful than completing 90% of short throws. That being said Marcel's biggest struggle has been on the deep throws so his overall impact in the passing game is not buoyed by the fact he's hitting downfield throws at a similar clip to his short throws.

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Marcel has also struggled with mid range outside the numbers. He's good in the short game and over the middle but really bad outside the numbers and deep.

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Then explain Florida

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He went 11/17. He didn't light Florida up through the air. When he played teams that prepped for his running ability, he got slowed down. That's the whole point.

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He got slowed down in cases but he never fumbled or threw an INT or ever seemed flustered whatsoever. That matters A LOT.

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So if he's contained against USC and can't hit his passes ala Arkansas, it makes sense to just keep doing it? When Conner clearly couldn't get the team moving, it was obvious to make the switch to Reed. I'm ok with that. But so many people on here seem to be Reed or bust going forward.

We have a chance to do something really special this year. I don't give a rats ass which QB does it. I don't understand the ride or die with Reed mentality. Arkansas came down to a strip sack by Scourton to end it. We forced 3 turnovers and barely escaped. If we end up in that situation, I'm all for giving CW a chance. Whatever it takes to win

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Hey if that is how it plays out and Elko feels like 'good' Conner is standing there and isnt going to be high risk throwing a pick and might be able to make plays and play calls that Reed isn't making…that is Elko's call. Personally I wouldn't do that unless South Carolina is pulling away from us (like up 10 with 8:41 in 3rd quarter

Because in a really tight game I simply wouldnt risk Connor making a big mistake. I trust Reed more to not do that.

I will be surprised if Reed doesn't start.

I look at Reed and Conner similar to pitchers. On any given night, one can be better than the other.

Reed can run like a complete boss and plays with confidence. But can he make correct reads and complete passes if teams are stacking the box and stopping the run? Can Conner give us a Mizzou game where his accuracy and timing was spot on for most of the game and even his runs were better and more decisive that game. Or will he look like he did against ND & LSU?

I usually hate playing 2 QBs but I think it could continue to work this year. Play the hot hand. I think we might need both QBs in order to stay undefeated in SEC play and beyond.

No one who is paying attention is underestimating him.

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For sure. If he gets to be a 65% passer A&M is going to difficult for anyone to beat. He's at ~60% and his TD to int ratio is perfect. He's proven he can be accurate, a little more consistency and he has Heisman potential.

This dude was a damn find! His poise is next level as a freshman.

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55.6% completion percentage is not ~60%

If he can become more accurate passer he has a chance to be an elite QB but he was only a 56% passer in high school. Plus he has work to do on seeing the field in passing situations but he's an elite runner.

He's still young so there is time for him to improve but he has a way to go with his passes.

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I'll take 3-0 and also bringing us back against #8 LSU in dominating form over his completion %.

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For sure. If he gets to be a 65% passer A&M is going to difficult for anyone to beat. He's at ~60% and his TD to int ratio is perfect. He's proven he can be accurate, a little more consistency and he has Heisman potential.

This dude was a damn find! His poise is next level as a freshman.

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55.6% completion percentage is not ~60%

If he can become more accurate passer he has a chance to be an elite QB but he was only a 56% passer in high school. Plus he has work to do on seeing the field in passing situations but he's an elite runner.

He's still young so there is time for him to improve but he has a way to go with his passes.

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I'll take 3-0 and also bringing us back against #8 LSU in dominating form over his completion %.

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Duel threat QB Nick Marshall in that 2013 season for Auburn in Malzahn's first coaching season when they won the SEC then lost the national title game to Fisher's FSU in a close game…had a 59.4% completion percentage that season.

Sometimes I dream that Reed can be the Nick Marshall of a similarly successful Aggie team in Elko's first year as HC

One area he will never compare is Lamar Jackson amazing inability to construct an intelligible sentence.

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I don't understand this dumb idea that has pervaded this board for several years that "completion percentage" is an absolute proxy for a quarterback's accuracy, and also that accuracy is just inherent and can never improve. Its asinine. Obviously a quarterback has a lot of impact on it, but honestly what type of offense are you running, what type of throws are you being asked to make is a huge factor in what your completion percentage is by itself.

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There have been some small scale case studies that have shown very few college quarterbacks improve their completion percentage from high school by more than a few points. Completion percentage is a good, though imperfect, proxy for the combination of decision and accuracy. It is a very imperfect proxy for the impact the QB has because completing 50% of deep throws is much more impactful than completing 90% of short throws. That being said Marcel's biggest struggle has been on the deep throws so his overall impact in the passing game is not buoyed by the fact he's hitting downfield throws at a similar clip to his short throws.

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Marcel has also struggled with mid range outside the numbers. He's good in the short game and over the middle but really bad outside the numbers and deep.

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Then explain Florida

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He went 11/17. He didn't light Florida up through the air. When he played teams that prepped for his running ability, he got slowed down. That's the whole point.

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He got slowed down in cases but he never fumbled or threw an INT or ever seemed flustered whatsoever. That matters A LOT.

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So if he's contained against USC and can't hit his passes ala Arkansas, it makes sense to just keep doing it? When Conner clearly couldn't get the team moving, it was obvious to make the switch to Reed. I'm ok with that. But so many people on here seem to be Reed or bust going forward.

We have a chance to do something really special this year. I don't give a rats ass which QB does it. I don't understand the ride or die with Reed mentality. Arkansas came down to a strip sack by Scourton to end it. We forced 3 turnovers and barely escaped. If we end up in that situation, I'm all for giving CW a chance. Whatever it takes to win

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Hey if that is how it plays out and Elko feels like 'good' Conner is standing there and isnt going to be high risk throwing a pick and might be able to make plays and play calls that Reed isn't making…that is Elko's call. Personally I wouldn't do that unless South Carolina is pulling away from us (like up 10 with 8:41 in 3rd quarter

Because in a really tight game I simply wouldnt risk Connor making a big mistake. I trust Reed more to not do that.

I will be surprised if Reed doesn't start.

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I won't be surprised if Reed starts. I won't be surprised if CW starts. It seems our coaches know that we have to approach this in a non-traditional manner

You should watch last weeks game.