45-70Ag said:

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If we are a one loss team next year and our QB goes down in week 11, just curious if those who want fsu out will be good with A&M being left out in that scenario

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A lot of those posting that the committee got it right are sips

Why is any other metric you don't agree with irrelevant?

So as I see it the goal in College football moving forward would be to play each game on your schedule and especially late in the schedule with intent to injure as many of the opposing teams players as possible. This will allow you to make the argument that if we line up and played BFEU then our team would win because of the players they have injured. Therefore you need to pick us. It's all about the money and nothing pertaining to right and wrong. The players at FSU beat everyone in front of them and some were ranked. This was a demonstration that your success will not be rewarded if you can't help us make the most money. Greed is a powerful thing.

As i said on another thread, they would pick texas out of bias and bama out of fear, and give fsu the shaft.


never has one early season game meant so much to so little.

kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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They should be mad. Even with a QB out, their defense is good enough to be competitive in any game.

They have a better SOR than Texas, their win this week was better than Texas's, and they were ranked above Texas last week. They're the first team to be dropped out of the top 4 rankings in the last week for winning.

The committee was scared to leave Texas out. And that's pathetic.

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no. the committee was scared to leave Bama/SEC out.

Texas beat Bama H2H. Both teams were conference champions. Both were 12-1. Any other metric is irrelevant.

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Bama has a better resume, more top 25 wins, a better loss, and better SOR in a better conference.

Any objective look puts Bama above Texas. H2H only counts so much.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Why is any other metric you don't agree with irrelevant?

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which are relevant re: Bama vs Texas? Not any significant difference in SOS/SOR. No injuries that are relevant.

R E L said:

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"For many of us, today's decision by the committee has forever damaged the credibility of the institution that is the College Football Playoff," Alford said. "And, saddest of all, it was self-inflicted. They chose predictive competitiveness over proven performance; subjectivity over fact. They have become a committee of prognosticators. They have abandoned their responsibility by discarding their purpose to evaluate performance on the field."

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F ing suit the committee!

Sorry, but the ONE time head to head makes this kind of difference, it benefits the Horns?

Stunning, I tell you.

Bama beat the number one team last week to win their conference, Texas beat an also ran. Bama's loss was to a top 10 program, Texas was to a top 15 that didn't even make a conference championship. Bama had a stronger SOS and SOR.

Bama strength of schedule -5th, FSU strength of schedule- 55th
Bama is being rewarded for playing a difficult schedule. No one with the 55th hardest schedule should be in the conversation as one of the four best teams.

The Dog Lord said:

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Heisenberg01 said:

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Where was all this hand ringing for A&M after 2020? Everyone sat back quiet then, so don't care about your school now.

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We weren't undefeated conference champs…

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This

Tergdor said:

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kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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They should be mad. Even with a QB out, their defense is good enough to be competitive in any game.

They have a better SOR than Texas, their win this week was better than Texas's, and they were ranked above Texas last week. They're the first team to be dropped out of the top 4 rankings in the last week for winning.

The committee was scared to leave Texas out. And that's pathetic.

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no. the committee was scared to leave Bama/SEC out.

Texas beat Bama H2H. Both teams were conference champions. Both were 12-1. Any other metric is irrelevant.

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Bama has a better resume, more top 25 wins, a better loss, and better SOR in a better conference.

Any objective look puts Bama above Texas. H2H only counts so much.

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Nonsense. None of the items in your first sentence are significantly differentiated enough to trump H2H.

Sorry facts hurt your feelings.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Bama beat the number one team last week to win their conference, Texas beat an also ran. Bama's loss was to a top 10 program, Texas was to a top 15 that didn't even make a conference championship. Bama had a stronger SOS and SOR.

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But they lost to Texas at home. Bottom-line.

Heisenberg01 said:

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Where was all this hand ringing for A&M after 2020? Everyone sat back quiet then, so don't care about your school now.

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We weren't undefeated, nor were we even conference DIVISION champs. Not even close to being similar.

Again, you are just ignoring every other metric. You just proved you can not argue that those other metrics are irrelevant without sounding ridiculous. No sense in responding anymore to a sip troll. The facts show you are wrong. Be glad you paid off the right people this year, congrats to your boosters.

None of this will matter next year anyways

kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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They should be mad. Even with a QB out, their defense is good enough to be competitive in any game.

They have a better SOR than Texas, their win this week was better than Texas's, and they were ranked above Texas last week. They're the first team to be dropped out of the top 4 rankings in the last week for winning.

The committee was scared to leave Texas out. And that's pathetic.

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no. the committee was scared to leave Bama/SEC out.

Texas beat Bama H2H. Both teams were conference champions. Both were 12-1. Any other metric is irrelevant.

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Bama has a better resume, more top 25 wins, a better loss, and better SOR in a better conference.

Any objective look puts Bama above Texas. H2H only counts so much.

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Nonsense. None of the items in your first sentence are significantly differentiated enough to trump H2H.

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Cumulatively, they do.

Wanna guess what the BCS computers would have picked?

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Alabama
4. Florida State

Funny, almost like there's more to the game than just H2H.

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Sorry facts hurt your feelings.

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those aren't facts at all. those are metrics that are further down the list and absolutely not differentiated. H2H trumps all.

If you like sports that include subjective results, you should watch gymnastics

Tergdor said:

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kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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They should be mad. Even with a QB out, their defense is good enough to be competitive in any game.

They have a better SOR than Texas, their win this week was better than Texas's, and they were ranked above Texas last week. They're the first team to be dropped out of the top 4 rankings in the last week for winning.

The committee was scared to leave Texas out. And that's pathetic.

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no. the committee was scared to leave Bama/SEC out.

Texas beat Bama H2H. Both teams were conference champions. Both were 12-1. Any other metric is irrelevant.

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Bama has a better resume, more top 25 wins, a better loss, and better SOR in a better conference.

Any objective look puts Bama above Texas. H2H only counts so much.

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If head to head only matters so much, then why do we use head to head match ups to determine the national champion?

rsf0626 said:

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None of this will matter next year anyways

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It won't matter until the 12 seed wins it all. If that happens, then the #13 team will say, "We could have done that, too!"

Gee, that sounds like what Buzz W said when we got blackballed from the NCAA tourney a couple years ago.

Or a one loss team gets left out because their qb is hurt.

Tergdor said:

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kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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They should be mad. Even with a QB out, their defense is good enough to be competitive in any game.

They have a better SOR than Texas, their win this week was better than Texas's, and they were ranked above Texas last week. They're the first team to be dropped out of the top 4 rankings in the last week for winning.

The committee was scared to leave Texas out. And that's pathetic.

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no. the committee was scared to leave Bama/SEC out.

Texas beat Bama H2H. Both teams were conference champions. Both were 12-1. Any other metric is irrelevant.

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Bama has a better resume, more top 25 wins, a better loss, and better SOR in a better conference.

Any objective look puts Bama above Texas. H2H only counts so much.

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Nonsense. None of the items in your first sentence are significantly differentiated enough to trump H2H.

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Cumulatively, they do.

Wanna guess what the BCS computers would have picked?

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Alabama
4. Florida State

Funny, almost like there's more to the game than just H2H.

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Why do even have a playoff then? Why not just let the committee pick the national champion?

Greetings said:

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R E L said:

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"For many of us, today's decision by the committee has forever damaged the credibility of the institution that is the College Football Playoff," Alford said. "And, saddest of all, it was self-inflicted. They chose predictive competitiveness over proven performance; subjectivity over fact. They have become a committee of prognosticators. They have abandoned their responsibility by discarding their purpose to evaluate performance on the field."

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Fortunately, this argument ends this year. In the future, teams *****ing about not getting the 12th seed can get ****ed.

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Any school from 7 down isn't really a contender. In college football it becomes clear who the top five are in any year, and no one else can really hang with them, except for the top two or three.

AustinAg2K said:

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Tergdor said:

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kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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They should be mad. Even with a QB out, their defense is good enough to be competitive in any game.

They have a better SOR than Texas, their win this week was better than Texas's, and they were ranked above Texas last week. They're the first team to be dropped out of the top 4 rankings in the last week for winning.

The committee was scared to leave Texas out. And that's pathetic.

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no. the committee was scared to leave Bama/SEC out.

Texas beat Bama H2H. Both teams were conference champions. Both were 12-1. Any other metric is irrelevant.

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Bama has a better resume, more top 25 wins, a better loss, and better SOR in a better conference.

Any objective look puts Bama above Texas. H2H only counts so much.

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If head to head only matters so much, then why do we use head to head match ups to determine the national champion?

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Champions aren't always the best team in a single elimination playoff. But you knew that.

H2H should never be the sole deciding factor in playoff and seeding selections.

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Do you guys want to see the 4 best teams, or a team without a quarterback get stomped? I'd much rather watch a full-strength Bama team.

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Exactly, Bama vs Mich is a much better semi-final than FSU vs Mich. Bama deserved to be in just as much as FSU did. The 4 team playoff format is the problem and not the decision to leave an FSU team without their star QB. They barely beat a Louisville team that is very average.

Meximan said:

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Greetings said:

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"For many of us, today's decision by the committee has forever damaged the credibility of the institution that is the College Football Playoff," Alford said. "And, saddest of all, it was self-inflicted. They chose predictive competitiveness over proven performance; subjectivity over fact. They have become a committee of prognosticators. They have abandoned their responsibility by discarding their purpose to evaluate performance on the field."

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Fortunately, this argument ends this year. In the future, teams *****ing about not getting the 12th seed can get ****ed.

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Any school from 7 down isn't really a contender. In college football it becomes clear who the top five are in any year, and no one else can really hang with them, except for the top two or three.

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I agree as far as winning the whole thing, but there are plenty of those 7-12 type teams who can get one upset win and play havoc with the bracket. That is why the blue bloods will get the cherry picked matchups and the non Blue Blood will draw the red hot 9-3/10-2 team.

kwammer said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Bama beat the number one team last week to win their conference, Texas beat an also ran. Bama's loss was to a top 10 program, Texas was to a top 15 that didn't even make a conference championship. Bama had a stronger SOS and SOR.

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But they lost to Texas at home. Bottom-line.

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In week 10, tu was rated higher than ou with both having one loss.

Guess head to head doesn't matter that much.

https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/football/ohio-state-football-report-acc-big-ten-pac-12-voted-against-expanded-12-team-college-football-playoff

Oh well, FSU. You made your bed.

Tergdor said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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Tergdor said:

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kwammer said:

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Tergdor said:

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They should be mad. Even with a QB out, their defense is good enough to be competitive in any game.

They have a better SOR than Texas, their win this week was better than Texas's, and they were ranked above Texas last week. They're the first team to be dropped out of the top 4 rankings in the last week for winning.

The committee was scared to leave Texas out. And that's pathetic.

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no. the committee was scared to leave Bama/SEC out.

Texas beat Bama H2H. Both teams were conference champions. Both were 12-1. Any other metric is irrelevant.

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Bama has a better resume, more top 25 wins, a better loss, and better SOR in a better conference.

Any objective look puts Bama above Texas. H2H only counts so much.

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If head to head only matters so much, then why do we use head to head match ups to determine the national champion?

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Champions aren't always the best team in a single elimination playoff. But you knew that.

H2H should never be the sole deciding factor in playoff and seeding selections.

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You understand that we use H2H in the playoffs itself? If you're saying H2H isn't all that important, then why are we using head to head match ups im each round of the playoffs?

If the committee knows better about who the best team is than actual on field results, then we should just let the committee pick the winner.

The ACC and FSU of the past failed this year's team when they didn't try to change the system to 8 teams.

The Big 12, PAC and ACC should have worried more about maintaining a spot at table instead of worrying about bowl affiliations and too many SEC teams in an expanded playoff.

It was a debate between the best 4 teams vs the 4 most deserving. The committee obviously picked the former

FSU should boycott their bowl. Remove any and all sense of legitimacy from this farce.

Hope tu gets trashed