Your Mom And Them said:

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Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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You're wrong….there was no "route concept" at all. It was run to the end zone and turn around. Watch the play again. It was a terrible play call. The bad decision and bad read just enhanced it.

At the very least you roll your QB out and create some space and time for a WR to get open or your QB finds a lane and runs it in. Give yourself a chance!

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You're not understanding what I said.

Trips left, one wide right.
The trips side has a route concept that you can go through, and then the solo wideout has a choice route. Either a fade or a stop right at the goal line.

King saw one-on-one (or so he thought), and went to his playmaker. Poor route running, poor throw, maybe poor decision? I'm not in their meeting rooms so I don't know what their cues are for going backside.

This coming from a former D-1 QB.

Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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You clearly don't know how coaching works, when you have a QB, the worst in the SEC, that has struggled with decisions, you don't give him that decision.

Went back and watched the play. Not as bad of a play call as I initially thought. Bad decision by King and even worse timing. King was crazy late with that throw.

Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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Wrong!!! It was a horrible playcall!

Spread the d out and run Achane wide on a sweep. WRs block. He can get 2 yards on speed alone.

Bronco6G said:

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Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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You clearly don't know how coaching works, when you have a QB, the worst in the SEC, that has struggled with decisions, you don't give him that decision.

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This is not rocket science, man. It's basic quarterbacking and play calling. Easy decision, poor execution.

aggiedan03 said:

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Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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Wrong!!! It was a horrible playcall!

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Thank you. Great analysis.

It's a terrible call

Whaler said:

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HK was WAY LATE throwing the ball. It should have left his hand before Stewart make his out break.

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This. If the ball is on time, it could have been a TD. Not the best play call, but the execution made it look even worse.

agracer said:

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Was PI too but still…

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Obvious PI but there is nothing to lose. Maybe run the ball. But the ball has to be there sooner.

Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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Yeah but you don't put the decision on the guy who has been basically deer in the headlights all game. Give it to the run game and see what happens.

I 100% disagree. There are 50 other play calls that take the decision out of a QB's hands that is incapable of making a good decision

Bronco6G said:

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I 100% disagree. There are 50 other play calls that take the decision out of a QB's hands that is incapable of making a good decision

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Do any of them involve the passing game? Because I find it hard to believe that our o-line (that had been getting blown off the ball all day, and just lost the starting center) would open a big enough hole for Achane to get 2 yards.

Typical Jimbo trash

Refer to post above^^

Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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Decision was piss poor. But look at the play and route concepts on the replay. It is ass my dude. He has nothing. I keep breaking it down like WTF did we call. It was a bad call. Jimbo used probably his 2 pt play on the early TD with the outlaw boot back across to TE. But you have to have something better than what he called. Hell give it Achane and see if he can get it is better than that crap.

Haynes played really well on the final drive. Smart decisions, good throws, and managed the clock without any timeouts. But Jimbo set him up to fail on the 2 yard line.

Jimbo special. Freakin' joke

What's missing is there is no creative play calling when the game is on the line - go YouTube 2006 Boise St v OU Fiesta Bowl for those of you who weren't born yet and see what I'm talking about! That play in OT was money! This is what we needed tonight…

Gol***93 said:

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Bronco6G said:

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I 100% disagree. There are 50 other play calls that take the decision out of a QB's hands that is incapable of making a good decision

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Do any of them involve the passing game? Because I find it hard to believe that our o-line (that had been getting blown off the ball all day, and just lost the starting center) would open a big enough hole for Achane to get 2 yards.

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I believe that King who made horrible decisions all night should not have been allowed to make the call there. A quick slant would have worked from either side of the field. That play was DOA.

Gol***93 said:

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aggiedan03 said:

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Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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Wrong!!! It was a horrible playcall!

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Thank you. Great analysis.

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You're right! It was and you're more than welcome!

Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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We don't have a power run game, our lead RB is 180 pounds soaking wet, King didn't have his first read open and had to go to the backside and didn't execute. I'm not sure King was fully healthy to scramble for it either. I don't hate the call, it just didn't work out. It's frankly incredible to me that they were in position to win this game at all. I loved the fight they showed, it's just a shame we don't have the line or running game to punch it in from two yards out against an Alabama defense.

Statue of Liberty to Achane might have worked.

Go under center and have Achane follow a DT rather than run that play.

You're mostly right. It's not that "his first read was covered". He was going backside all the way. Pre-snap read.

How stupid of a coach do you have to be to depend on Haynes arm with one play from the 2.

Im not going to say they should have run the ball because I wanted a pass play before the play was called, but having no routes in the middle of the field is just terrible play design. Would have loved to see a slant, a double move from a TE or a slot receiver, or hell a goal line mesh even if we are going to pass that play. Even running a pick play and daring the ref to throw a flag would have been better then that crap.

Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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No it was an awful awful awful playcall.

That play required an NFL level throw from a kid who had accuracy issues all game long. Asking him to make a throw like that is idiotic. It never should have been an option.

If you look at it, I think the call was to try and get the receiver on the left side of the field One on one for a pylon pass…. HK made a bad read. I think he knows it, that's why we got the reaction from him and Jimbo

Give me a break, dude. You really think playcalling is as simple as "just run a slant to either side" from the 2 yard line?

There were like 9 guys between the hashes where the slant would be run!!

If you don't want King making that decision then either hand the ball off (which I don't think would have worked) or play a different QB. That was a basic and common pre-snap read.. it was just, once again, poor execution by King.

Ball should have left his hand and been hitting Stewart in the chin as he was turning around. Instead, he double-clutched and sailed it.

I don't think where he threw it was the route they were looking for.

Gol***93 said:

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Your Mom And Them said:

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Gol***93 said:

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Y'all have no idea how playcalls work.

There's a play side route concept, and a backside choice route. King clearly thought he had a good matchup 1-on-1 on the backside and took that throw. Bad decision, bad read. Not a bad playcall.

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You're wrong….there was no "route concept" at all. It was run to the end zone and turn around. Watch the play again. It was a terrible play call. The bad decision and bad read just enhanced it.

At the very least you roll your QB out and create some space and time for a WR to get open or your QB finds a lane and runs it in. Give yourself a chance!

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You're not understanding what I said.

Trips left, one wide right.
The trips side has a route concept that you can go through, and then the solo wideout has a choice route. Either a fade or a stop right at the goal line.

King saw one-on-one (or so he thought), and went to his playmaker. Poor route running, poor throw, maybe poor decision? I'm not in their meeting rooms so I don't know what their cues are for going backside.

This coming from a former D-1 QB.

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Understood. What I don't understand is the trips just running to the end zone and turning around. There was no route concept, unless that was the route concept. If that's the case, then sheesh. I figured that there would at least be a mesh or rub somewhere on the outside. If King made that decision, he's a worse QB than I realized.

An OC puts this team over the top. But this fart is too proud to admit his limitations !!!!!

QB draw was there