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A serious conversation about the role of Yell Leaders

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Gunny456
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Guess you are too young to remember or know that it was common during the draft in the late 60's and 70's. Lots of guys left TAM to serve. Many did not make it back ...... many times Silver Taps held for them.
Ag Tag
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Marines are wrong to ridicule the Corps as fake Army, they should understand them for what they are, student cadets. They aren't "there yet,"
Definitely Not A Cop
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cmsaggie12 said:

Shoe97 said:

cmsaggie12 said:

strbrst777 said:

"Fake army." That struck a nerve. Nobody claims that the Corps is an army. It is the Corps and it is not fake. Many thousands of us former Corps members served as officers in the military. Others enlisted and served honorably. Texas Aggies had Big presence in WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan and other wars. And over 1000 Aggies, including 9 of my classmates, did not come home. The MSC in their memory. And by the way, over 200 Aggies became generals or admirals. The Corps is real; like the Corps or not, it should be respected.



I never said I didn't respect it. I shared what 4 actively serving Marines said at a football game. I think their point was why wear uniforms and present yourself as something you are not. If they were taking time off while in school to serve, that is a different story. What they go on to do AFTER their time in the Corps should be commended and respected.

I come from a family that is largely military. Both grandpas, numerous aunts and uncles, and countless cousins. So I respect the military.


cmsaggie12 You need to just stop…it is obvious you have zero idea what the Corps is or why it is exists. Just stop.
I have had family members die while serving in the military. I'm telling you what 4 active Marines told me. The Corps is great but I see their point. People die in the military. They wear that uniform because they've earned it.


You see their point that they don't understand what an ROTC program is?
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Ag Tag said:

Marines are wrong to ridicule the Corps as fake Army, they should understand them for what they are, student cadets. They aren't "there yet,"
But when they do "get there" they'll be officers and leaders. Everyone has to go through the training and maturation process. Should seniors ridicule freshmen and sophomores just because they're newer and younger? It's asinine.
the_batman26
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Everyone grills a Lieutenant anyway. Can't spell lost with LT.
Lance Uppercut
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I'll just say....the older you get, the less you care what people think. Especially about stuff like if there's an ROTC program at your alma mater or if there are yell leaders instead of cheerleaders at the front of the crowd.

We managed multiple top recruiting classes despite these "hindrances", and neither the corps nor the yell leaders had anything to do with why we lost to Appalachian State.
Ag Tag
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Lance Uppercut said:

...the older you get, the less you care what people think.
Agreed. And I'm there. It's like a great release.
JST92
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Get bent. Somehow managed to still have a program after the joe paterno comment. Talk about getting rid of our traditions, may as well change school name. Yell leaders stay. You go.
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Ghost of Bisbee
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How hard is it to read?

Do you need to be spoonfed? Not one person has said to get rid of the yell leaders.

Media perception matters. Too many instances to count where that **** matters. 2020 season is a case study for us.
QB1
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"…week after week after week…" wtf? One ap state thing goes array and you act likes it been going on for decades? Grow up Francis, it's in good taste, good tradition, if nothing else maybe you contribute for some comedy writers so you will not be embarrassed anymore


Ghost of Bisbee said:

The amount of emphasis A&M enables yell leaders to have in the media for our football game needs to change. They are a liability more often than not.
Tired of seeing cringe yell leader **** blasted out on tv and social media week after week after week.

Yell leaders need to continue doing what they do best. Lead yells.

At some point over the last 15 years, it's turned into a look at me fest. Tired of it. Flame away


Nino Brown
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Dr Lane Trowlan said:

Ghost of Bisbee said:

The amount of emphasis A&M enables yell leaders to have in the media for our football game needs to change. They are a liability more often than not.
Tired of seeing cringe yell leader **** blasted out on tv and social media week after week after week.

Yell leaders need to continue doing what they do best. Lead yells.

At some point over the last 15 years, it's turned into a look at me fest. Tired of it. Flame away




Wanna know how I know you're a dewsh? Because you allow your life to be influenced & affected by what happens on social media. We all know social media is a plague on the world, and yet you still abide by it. A&M isn't for everyone. That's by design. We'll never be loved by everyone, and that's ok. Get off social media and be a man.

I hope nobody listens to you.


This mofo should have been shut down right there. If my grandfather was alive to see dudes worried about what strangers said on the internet he'd jump back in his damn grave. I guess I should worry about people say about my daughter online cuz you know, she's different. Idiots.
dixichkn
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JBGoode said:

I blame this on going to the SEC. We wanted the spotlight, we got it.

Our old regional foes understood us. Our traditions were known, and to them, that was just Texas A&M.

Now we're a freak show to the greater CFB world. Mostly, they're just jealous they don't have our spirit, and so A&M must be taken down a few notches!! Screw 'em and their damn pom-poms and their faceless, generic cheerleaders, bands, pep rallies, etc.

We're Texas A&M. They're not!
I actually agree with a lot of this. I've now been to 9 of the 13 other SEC members' home venues, and outside of Auburn flying the War Eagle, and LSU having a bunch of classless swamp trash yelling at people to suck their d***s, there really isn't anything that distinguishes one from the other. (Hell, Auburn still does 'two bits four bits'…..talk about cringe inducing…….)

Embrace what makes us different. Even if it's antiquated and cornball as all hell. Or grab a dildo and go join the parade at Generic McUniversity to the west. Just my $.02
WaldoWings
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Who gaf what anyone thinks about us? I got way more important things to worry with.
itsyourboypookie
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All attention is good attention.

Let them talk
TexAggie1999
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Txmoe said:

Yeah! Let's be more like Florida State and just keep repeating the same racially insensitive gesture and sound for the whole game!


Except nothing about Florida State is racially insensitive except to woke millenials on behalf of others.
Whatthefunyo
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cmsaggie12 said:

Whatthefunyo said:

strbrst777 said:

"Fake army." That struck a nerve. Nobody claims that the Corps is an army. It is the Corps and it is not fake. Many thousands of us former Corps members served as officers in the military. Others enlisted and served honorably. Texas Aggies had Big presence in WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan and other wars. And over 1000 Aggies, including 9 of my classmates, did not come home. The MSC in their memory. And by the way, over 200 Aggies became generals or admirals. The Corps is real; like the Corps or not, it should be respected.



Bravo.

I guess all of those former Corps members that went to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria over the last few years were fighting fake wars. Because I mean, who would send fake soldiers anyway?
"Former corps members" is key here. I guess I'm unaware of current Corps members and current students who are enrolled, pausing their studies and going overseas to serve. Please enlighten me.




"Reserve officer training corps" - as in…where officers…get trained…to serve…

How else do you think most of America's officers receive a commission? They don't just hand them out because you have a good resume like corporate America does.

I'm at a loss for words because the ignorance of this post, and clear lack of knowledge on this subject is completely baffling.
depogs
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I was a member of the Corps of Cadets and a Marine Reservist when I was at A&M. I spent the majority of what would have been my junior year at A&M deployed to Iraq. There were at least 4 other active cadets spread out through my battalion. I'm sure this happened numerous times through 20 years of war.
The bottom line is a minority of non regs hate the attention that cadets get, but if it wasn't cadets being shown on tv it would be the short Jorts and boot wearing dudes on TV and Aggies would still be ridiculed.
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.-Thomas Paine
TXAG 05
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I'm always surprised by how many Aggies seem to hate everything about A&M.
HumpitPuryear
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Our flagship campus has the largest enrolment of any public university campus in the nation. We turn thousands of prospective freshmen candidates away every year. A&M doesn't have an image problem.

Most of the bleeding vaginas on this thread can't display an AgTag. That's telling.

If you did graduate from the University and find the need to complain about everything that makes A&M different than the problem is YOU not A&M. Hwy 6 is still there and provides you an easy pathway out of College Station and the environment that triggers you. Utilize it. We will be just fine without you.
barbacoa taco
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HumpitPuryear said:

Our flagship campus has the largest enrolment of any public university campus in the nation. We turn thousands of prospective freshmen candidates away every year. A&M doesn't have an image problem.

Most of the bleeding vaginas on this thread can't display an AgTag. That's telling.

If you did graduate from the University and find the need to complain about everything that makes A&M different than the problem is YOU not A&M. Hwy 6 is still there and provides you an easy pathway out of College Station and the environment that triggers you. Utilize it. We will be just fine without you.
Windy City Ag
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Quote:

Our flagship campus has the largest enrolment of any public university campus in the nation. We turn thousands of prospective freshmen candidates away every year. A&M doesn't have an image problem.
You are correct. They all come to Texas A&M because they love jorts and overalls and 1950s Boomer jokes. It has nothing to do with the affordable nature of a very quality education near home. Good analysis.

 
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