There's a reason why people don't really listen to finebaum anymore

They don't have the votes. Why would we want to help out these desperate scumbags. The SEC already has Texas covered and Oklahoma only has about 14 televisions. Let them go to the pac 12. Would love to see tu playing Washington State at 1:00 in the morning.

So after this thread at least it will never again be a question of wether or not angryAg is a sip troll

AgBQ-00 said:

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They've already blown up two conferences. The sips are nobody's friend. They are a snake in the grass and should never be trusted. If yiu want a small clue about them read Dr Loftin's 100 year decision. Or watch the Texags documentary about it.

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The SWC was dead by the time the big boys jumped to the B12. You are giving the horns far to much credit.

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Aggieair said:

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Not happening.

A&M, Mizzou, and Arkansas are hard no's.

Florida, UK, SCar, and Vandy are going to be no's so that they don't have to play Bama and Auburn every year.

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That makes no sense. Arkie would love it. They have wanted to play UT every year. They will be hugely in favor. And they want the extra $$$.

Mizzou won't dare cross Sankey. They also aren't turning down extra $$$. And they won't block a deal that would bring a ton of extra $$$ to everyone walks in the conference.

And we will go along. It would be highly embarrassing to be on the losing end of a 13-1 vote.

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How will this bring extra money? The lucrative Ok City TV market?

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nice AgTag.

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You talking to me? If so, thanks.

bv86ag said:

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A&M..HELL NO.
Arkansas..no
Mizzou..no
LSU...no
Miss. St...no.
Ole Miss...no
Nick Saban...no
Auburn...no
Georgia...no
Florida...no
South Carolina...no
Vanderbilt...abstain
Kentucky...no
Sooooo....that pretty much takes care of it.
If you need an explanation as to why these schools would vote this way then you haven't studied the politics of SEC future expansion that have been discussed for years on this board.
You are also discounting the influence of Nick Saban and other SEC coaches who already enjoy a significant and heavy footprint in Texas recruiting. The whorns and blow u joining do not help improve the Texas recruiting scene for any SEC teams.
And the threat of retaliatory additions in the East that are particularly unsavory.

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it wouldnt have gotten this far along if there wasnt some sort of assurances given by Sankey to both OU and Texas. I was in the camp of "ill believe it when i see it", but now i am leaning more towards its going to happen. and i wouldnt doubt if it was unanimous. as Finebaum said, no way in hell the SEC lets Texas and Oklahoma go to the Big 10 or the ACC.

MSUbulldog obviously doesn't get the bad blood between tu and us. And is naive about the way tu handles business.

If everyone gets more $ with tu and ou being in the conference (doubtful under the current revenue model), then how is any school advantaged over their opponents? - Everyone is getting the same share. It would be like getting a raise just to keep up with inflation and thinking your better off.

Aggieair said:

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W said:

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Sankey is not Slive.

it won't be unanimous

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Exactly. I can't understand why any sane person would think it would be unanimous after Bjork's comments today.

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We won't vote on the losing side.

Mizzou has told Sankey they will go along. Arkie is actually pushing it.

it will be unanimous in the end.

Is Texas and Oklahoma a package deal? Why not take Oklahoma and then reach out to a VT or UNC? I believe that would be the SEC Power Move. Sure A&M loses the northern part of Texas to recruiting, but this makes the most financial sense for the SEC imo

Finebaum is doing his schtick and so many people fall for it.
Where is all this money coming g from? Oklahoma's 450K TV's? Texas eyeballs that the conference already has?

Think about it. This is going nowhere.

Arkansas-yes. They have tried to schedule texas regularly for recruiting. Sends Bama to the east.
Florida-yes. 16 schools locks out FSU
SCAR-yes-blocks Clemson
Georgia-Yes block GA Tech
LSU-Yes-money and sends Bama east
Tennessee-yes-money and they get Bama in division again.
Auburn-yes go east(traditional rivals). Money
Bama-yes-go east and LSU becomes rival game
Vandy-money
MSU-money and get Bama and auburn in east
Ole miss-same
Missou-moneyand will be in east anyway
TAMU-yes because we aren't going to be the only dissenting vote
Kentucky-no real idea other than keeps out Louisville.


Some of yall are looking at it from the championship only perspective. There are a lot of fans in the east and both Auburn and Bama that don't like not playing the traditional teams every year that are now in the other division.

bv86ag said:

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A&M..HELL NO.
Arkansas..no
Mizzou..no
LSU...no
Miss. St...no.
Ole Miss...no
Nick Saban...no
Auburn...no
Georgia...no
Florida...no
South Carolina...no
Vanderbilt...abstain
Kentucky...no
Sooooo....that pretty much takes care of it.
If you need an explanation as to why these schools would vote this way then you haven't studied the politics of SEC future expansion that have been discussed for years on this board.
You are also discounting the influence of Nick Saban and other SEC coaches who already enjoy a significant and heavy footprint in Texas recruiting. The whorns and blow u joining do not help improve the Texas recruiting scene for any SEC teams.
And the threat of retaliatory additions in the East that are particularly unsavory.

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Despite absolutely sucking at football the horns have demonstrated the ability negotiate media rights better than anyone. So I suspect they know they can get this done or they are leveraging this rumor to initiate a bidding war for some other deal. The one thing for sure is that the B12 is dead and Ken Star better fire up the late model Buick and get his tail to the office to get started on a lawsuit.

I think it is more likely to happen than not.

I am glad we got this head start of being in the SEC first. We are not the same program that left the Big 12. We finished #4 last year. We have Jimbo.

If Texas shows up they won't run the conference like they always did before.

I think it is to our advantage to get to sell being the only SEC team in Texas and I am against them coming, but I also think A&M is in a position to succeed with or without that distinction.

Y'all are crazy if you don't see this happening. Money drives everything, this will pass without any objection. Don't be surprised to see a yes vote from A&M.

Troll troll troll your boat sip. All you post is veiled negative stuff and news about sips.

Why don't you put all that SEC hope in one hand and **** in the other and see which fills up first.

Please describe exactly how they will bring more money.

Gidnik said:

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bv86ag said:

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A&M..HELL NO.
Arkansas..no
Mizzou..no
LSU...no
Miss. St...no.
Ole Miss...no
Nick Saban...no
Auburn...no
Georgia...no
Florida...no
South Carolina...no
Vanderbilt...abstain
Kentucky...no
Sooooo....that pretty much takes care of it.
If you need an explanation as to why these schools would vote this way then you haven't studied the politics of SEC future expansion that have been discussed for years on this board.
You are also discounting the influence of Nick Saban and other SEC coaches who already enjoy a significant and heavy footprint in Texas recruiting. The whorns and blow u joining do not help improve the Texas recruiting scene for any SEC teams.
And the threat of retaliatory additions in the East that are particularly unsavory.

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it wouldnt have gotten this far along if there wasnt some sort of assurances given by Sankey to both OU and Texas. I was in the camp of "ill believe it when i see it", but now i am leaning more towards its going to happen. and i wouldnt doubt if it was unanimous. as Finebaum said, no way in hell the SEC lets Texas and Oklahoma go to the Big 10 or the ACC.

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Well, the BIG would never sully itself with Zero U academically.

If SEC would go after ACC schools, I think it would be UNC/NC State and UVA/VaTech rather than Clemson and GaTech.

Two popular blue blood teams will bring plenty of eyeballs. Also I would bet the LHN will go away and that money will roll into the pot to sweeten the money deal. It's happening unfortunately.

AngryAG said:

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The vote will be unanimous in the end. Bama and Disney will get everyone on board.

Longhorns & Sooners might wanna give this a listen 👇🏾 pic.twitter.com/Dqxw73eTcx

— David Allen (@Doc_Texas) July 22, 2021

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Don't see it happening. Texas doesn't add anything you'uns in Aggieland don't already give the conference.

If Texas truly added anything of worth, then we would have seen it through success with the LHN. The fact such evidence is lacking points to the fact they bring little to the table other than a desperate and tired wallflower trying to hook up with a dating population that is way above their level.

Oklahoma makes sense from the perspective that you are adding another strong program with a passionate fanbase who will truly bring something to the energy the conference already has in abundance.

Purely from the standpoint of the football culture, I'd rather have West Virginia than Texas as a partner with Oklahoma. Those two would be better fits and would bring an energy to the table that the PAC-12 wannabees in Austin simply lack. I'd rather see two schools with stadiums rocking and rolling at gametime than a group of Berkeley rejects who only show up sometime in the second quarter. We've got Vandy and Mizzou's fanbases for that. No need to add a bigger version of that sort of football climate to the SEC.

This being said, I really don't see the need to expand. The conference is good as it is and, considering the fact the NCAA is as close to castration as a bull next to Coach Sherrill, appears only to be moving forward far into the future as we enter this age of de facto semi-pro football.

TexasRenegade said:

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Arkansas-yes. They have tried to schedule texas regularly for recruiting. Sends Bama to the east.
Florida-yes. 16 schools locks out FSU
SCAR-yes-blocks Clemson
Georgia-Yes block GA Tech
LSU-Yes-money and sends Bama east
Tennessee-yes-money and they get Bama in division again.
Auburn-yes go east(traditional rivals). Money
Bama-yes-go east and LSU becomes rival game
Vandy-money
MSU-money and get Bama and auburn in east
Ole miss-same
Missou-moneyand will be in east anyway
TAMU-yes because we aren't going to be the only dissenting vote
Kentucky-no real idea other than keeps out Louisville.


Some of yall are looking at it from the championship only perspective. There are a lot of fans in the east and both Auburn and Bama that don't like not playing the traditional teams every year that are now in the other division.

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So let's see... If you're in the west you're for this because Bama moves east. If you're in the east you're for this because Bama moves east.
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AngryAG said:

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Aggieair said:

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W said:

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Sankey is not Slive.

it won't be unanimous

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Exactly. I can't understand why any sane person would think it would be unanimous after Bjork's comments today.

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We won't vote on the losing side.

Mizzou has told Sankey they will go along. Arkie is actually pushing it.

it will be unanimous in the end.

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You literally don't know anything but are on here pretending like you do. Why?

Jbob04 said:

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Two popular blue blood teams will bring plenty of eyeballs. Also I would bet the LHN will go away and that money will roll into the pot to sweeten the money deal. It's happening unfortunately.

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I don't see the horns giving up guaranteed $15M per year. The network will disappear but the Mouse House will keep paying horn till the end is my guess.

TxAG#2011 said:

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AngryAG said:

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Aggieair said:

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Sankey is not Slive.

it won't be unanimous

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Exactly. I can't understand why any sane person would think it would be unanimous after Bjork's comments today.

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We won't vote on the losing side.

Mizzou has told Sankey they will go along. Arkie is actually pushing it.

it will be unanimous in the end.

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You literally don't know anything but are on here pretending like you do. Why?

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He's a troll. He spits out garbage

Lots of ways.

Ratings- Texas Ou brings big ratings.
Us and Texas will bring huge ratings
Us and Ou will be big
LSU vs Texas will be big
LSU vs OU will be big

Etc etc etc.

Long term it owns the state of Texas for SEC.
It prevents Pac or Big10 from getting a competitive foothold in the Texas market.

If it gets them out of the crappy big 12, they will do it.

akm91 said:

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If SEC would go after ACC schools, I think it would be UNC/NC State and UVA/VaTech rather than Clemson and GaTech.

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Absolutely correct. Either scenario expands the TV footprint. The big win would be to grab NC State and Va Tech. NC State would likely split. UNC is joined at the hip with Duke over BBall. Va Tech has said in the past that they won't go anywhere without UVA. Who knows?

Finebaum said "it is pretty far along" and "I think they get it done." He didn't say it was done.

This is not how things normally go. Usually the first announcement is the last one and it's over.

It'll happen. Texas is a cancer to everyone in whatever conference they are ever a part of, but there's no way the SEC can say no to adding two programs like that. But they will soon learn how big of a mistake it is to get involved with them. This sucks.

TexasRenegade said:

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Lots of ways.

Ratings- Texas Ou brings big ratings.
Us and Texas will bring huge ratings
Us and Ou will be big
LSU vs Texas will be big
LSU vs OU will be big

Etc etc etc.

Long term it owns the state of Texas for SEC.
It prevents Pac or Big10 from getting a competitive foothold in the Texas market.

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If that was the case we'd be able to sway ND to join the SEC tbh.

It's not an outright no because it cements the sec the problem is the laws that govern SEC membership for Ole Greg.

B1G won't expand if we don't

How will more eyeballs equal more $? What contract will be renegotiated?

I know this is a long article so ill cut and paste a few of the tidbits that i think matter.

https://www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract?utm_campaign=dawgsports&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

"Oklahoma and Texas joining the SEC would reset the league's television contracts. That would result in "an increase in revenue of at least 10 million a year for each of the league's member institutions," from revamped television contracts alone according to one source."

"One potential hurdle to the move is the Longhorn Network. The contract between Texas and ESPN runs through 2031, and the university earns approximately 15 million dollars a year under the current agreement. Sources believe that any move to the SEC would be dependent on the dissolution of the cable channel.

Sources close to the University of Texas have told Dawg Sports that Texas "would be willing to scrap it, and believe the move to the SEC would ultimately result in more money for the university.""