Yikes!

Farmer_J said:

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austinAG90 said:

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I've been on TRT for over a decade

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If I may ask, what was your experience?

Any side effects?

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I've been taking a pretty hefty dose of testosterone cypionate (600mg/week, 300mg on Mondays, 300mg on Thursdays) since December 2023. I've dropped a ton of fat. I've went from 257lbs to a solid 214lbs currently. I also take 1mg of Arimidex everyday.

Never had more energy, I feel more confident, and I feel like it has changed my outlook on life for the better. I'm in my early 30s and I feel the way I did whenever I was 16. I was sleeping 9 hours a night before taking testosterone and still feeling groggy all day, now I'm getting 5-6 hours a night and feel infinitely better.

Side effects: slight hair thinning & testicle shrinkage (I don't plan on having anymore children so I don't really mind my boys not working properly)

Also, if you don't find the correct dosage of an estrogen blocker that works for you, you'll get man boobs.

Damn 1mg every day. My urologist has me at 3 per week but said this is the absolute highest dose he prescribes.

I'm also not doing TRT but Clomid which has my total test at 1314 and free 292 per my last tests. I feel like at these levels I should feel like the hulk but that isn't the case. I feel better than I did prior but not dramatic. My urologist explained to me that for some people after they are on Clomid for a longer period their lab work shows their test levels show normal/high but they don't feel the benefit of it. I need to talk more at my next appt but indicated that I should consider going over to TRT. Not worried about the boys but I don't want to lose hair at least not on my head.....

So you haven't seen any hair loss on clomid?

Not that I can tell... I'm 49 and my barber usually has to use the thinning sheers twice to get my hair under control. Knock on wood!

I started TRT & B12 injections in March (TRT- .25mL twice a week). When I started, my T level was at 434. Last week, had my first round of bloodwork since starting, and T was at 191. Anyone have any idea of what would cause this? Used a "small time" provider and now can't get them to respond to emails/ questions.

aggiesundevil4 said:

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Yikes!

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Doing 1 ML every 2 weeks, did a mid shot bloodwork (IE 1 week after shot) came back in 897. Takes awhile to get back to normal when you miss some time off because insurance is freaking stupid.

austinAG90 said:

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aggiesundevil4 said:

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Yikes!

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Doing 1 ML every 2 weeks, did a mid shot bloodwork (IE 1 week after shot) came back in 897. Takes awhile to get back to normal when you miss some time off because insurance is freaking stupid.

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UGL Testosterone is easy to come by if you find somebody that's reliable (and that uses MCT oil as base)

I get a 10mL vial of 300mg/mL testosterone for $60, it lasts me about 10 weeks, depending on if I'm running 300mg/week or 600mg/week.

Random, maybe silly question...

I had gotten my testosterone levels checked a couple of months ago and they were in the "normal" range - I can't remember the exact number, but when I looked it up it wasn't borderline low or anything. 37 y/o male for reference.

I got a steroid shot and some oral steroids from the doctor to kick an illness I've had and man, on day 3 I feel like night and day difference in my mood. Just generally happier, more energy, etc.

Is there any correlation here? I have been hesitant to explore TRT because I want to do everything as natural as possible, but after 2 years of lifting heavy, eating right, not drinking, sleeping well, etc., my mood has never approached anything like this.

What does the board think?

You and I are about the same age and it sounds like we have similar lifestyle habits. I've never had issues with low T and get tested annually.

Anecdotally, my doc gave me a steroid shot( 2 mg of dexamethasone combined with 20 mg of Methylprednisolone) last fall because of allergies/sinuses and I felt like a million bucks for a week or two. I never got my testosterone tested after the shot but it was normal before. I chalked it up to the effect of the steroid.

CC09LawAg said:

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Random, maybe silly question...

I had gotten my testosterone levels checked a couple of months ago and they were in the "normal" range - I can't remember the exact number, but when I looked it up it wasn't borderline low or anything. 37 y/o male for reference.

I got a steroid shot and some oral steroids from the doctor to kick an illness I've had and man, on day 3 I feel like night and day difference in my mood. Just generally happier, more energy, etc.

Is there any correlation here? I have been hesitant to explore TRT because I want to do everything as natural as possible, but after 2 years of lifting heavy, eating right, not drinking, sleeping well, etc., my mood has never approached anything like this.

What does the board think?

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My dad and I agree that steroid shots should be weekly occurrences just like vitamins. They're amazing.

Great thread. Lots of information to be had here.
I saved these for later use and to ask my doctor.
clomid for men with aromatase inhibitor
aromasin/anastrozole
selenium benefits
hcg
Xyosted
pellets testosterone
inositol testosterone
glycine and testosterone
arimidex
dexamethasone methylprednisolone
defymedical
trtnation
primebody

Is TRT or Clomid still advisable if using creatine?

Sweating BulletS said:

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Is TRT or Clomid still advisable if using creatine?

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They don't really affect each other negatively. Both are great

Any TRT friendly docs in BCS? I had one but he closed his practice and went to Houston. Using a subscription service now.

I had my first visit at synergenx, popped low, but I am not interested in weekly appointments for injections. Is there someplace in NE houston I can do my bloodwork, then do the in injections myself at home?

Great thread, recently had labs done and have been referred to T specialist: your advice is welcome.
SHBG 115 nmol/L
Free T 3.80 pg/mL
Total T 912 ng/dL

LH, FSH, Prolactin all normal ranges

You looked into the pellets? Might be more expensive but only downside I found is having to limit intense exercise for a week or so.

dummble said:

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I had my first visit at synergenx, popped low, but I am not interested in weekly appointments for injections. Is there someplace in NE houston I can do my bloodwork, then do the in injections myself at home?

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Shots at home 2X per week are the way to go. The upper thigh is painless and I rarely even bleed at all. I'm in Georgia, so no recommendation on a doc.

CC09LawAg said:

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Random, maybe silly question...

I had gotten my testosterone levels checked a couple of months ago and they were in the "normal" range - I can't remember the exact number, but when I looked it up it wasn't borderline low or anything. 37 y/o male for reference.

I got a steroid shot and some oral steroids from the doctor to kick an illness I've had and man, on day 3 I feel like night and day difference in my mood. Just generally happier, more energy, etc.

Is there any correlation here? I have been hesitant to explore TRT because I want to do everything as natural as possible, but after 2 years of lifting heavy, eating right, not drinking, sleeping well, etc., my mood has never approached anything like this.

What does the board think?

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No correlation at all. Corticosteroids are completely different from testosterone. Increased energy and insomnia are common side effects of corticosteroids.

You should avoid getting corticosteroids more than 3x a year as it will suppress your adrenal gland making your natural ones that are necessary to live. Don't play with corticosteroids they are powerful but potentially dangerous medications.

Mike Elkos Burner said:

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Farmer_J said:

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austinAG90 said:

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I've been on TRT for over a decade

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If I may ask, what was your experience?

Any side effects?

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I've been taking a pretty hefty dose of testosterone cypionate (600mg/week, 300mg on Mondays, 300mg on Thursdays) since December 2023. I've dropped a ton of fat. I've went from 257lbs to a solid 214lbs currently. I also take 1mg of Arimidex everyday.

Never had more energy, I feel more confident, and I feel like it has changed my outlook on life for the better. I'm in my early 30s and I feel the way I did whenever I was 16. I was sleeping 9 hours a night before taking testosterone and still feeling groggy all day, now I'm getting 5-6 hours a night and feel infinitely better.

Side effects: slight hair thinning & testicle shrinkage (I don't plan on having anymore children so I don't really mind my boys not working properly)

Also, if you don't find the correct dosage of an estrogen blocker that works for you, you'll get man boobs.

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I'm not hating at all, but this is not TRT. This is a small to medium dosage steroid dosage. Good for you if it works, but others reading this should know. Anything over 250 to 300mg per week is a cycle. Not TRT.

dummble said:

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I had my first visit at synergenx, popped low, but I am not interested in weekly appointments for injections. Is there someplace in NE houston I can do my bloodwork, then do the in injections myself at home?

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amazing that people pay 150 a month for injections. I did pellets and that wasn't good for me. i do injections myself 2x week for 15bucks for 3mo supply due to my insurance. Has to be doctors that do it, they just don't make money off of it and never push it.

I tried the dissolvable pills and those sucked.

Yeah, I figured it was too good to be true.

Sure was a good 3 days though.

dummble said:

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I had my first visit at synergenx, popped low, but I am not interested in weekly appointments for injections. Is there someplace in NE houston I can do my bloodwork, then do the in injections myself at home?

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Call a urologist in your area and setup an appt. Not sure exactly where you are but there's quite a few in Tomball btw. The weekly injections are a racket.

Just took my first testosterone test. 42 year old male, very fit, workout 6 days a week.

Free was 98.4 and total was 495. These are in normal range but seem a little on the lower ends from what I can tell. If sex, energy, etc. isn't affected I assume I shouldn't worry about it?

aggiefan2002 said:

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Just took my first testosterone test. 42 year old male, very fit, workout 6 days a week.

Free was 98.4 and total was 495. These are in normal range but seem a little on the lower ends from what I can tell. If sex, energy, etc. isn't affected I assume I shouldn't worry about it?

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For what it's worth. I was feeling incredibly drained and exhausted all the time, not much desire for anything. I was still working out and eating healthy, but not really making any gains in the gym. My friend suggested and ordered some labs for me. My testosterone was above what is considered normal range. Both free and total. Can't remember the free amount, but the total was close to 1100. But free was also above normal range. I suspect i just have a naturally higher baseline - although looking at me I do not look hugely muscular or anything.

So, based off your numbers, if you're having morning wood, you're probably ok. Yes, everyone will feel better taking exogenous testosterone. But, while there's potential for quite a few side effects and adverse effects, you will essentially buy yourself life long use if you stay on it.

Went to doc last week for checkup, told him I've been having awful fatigue lately so ran a battery of blood tests. Testosterone was 257.8, their range says normal starts at 250. He literally didn't mention it and said everything looks great. Should I push the issue? I'm about to turn 34.

I went through the same issue recently, saw multiple providers and all my tests were low, and nobody wanted to do anything about it. Even followed TexAgs advice and saw a urologist, he told me I'm fatigued because of my job. I followed up with RISE men's health and got prescribed within a day or two. Worth following up with someone else if it's the path you want to take.

Man, I know how you're feeling. I'm 37 and went to the doctor and got bloodwork and test was fine and everything was great and they're like "hey wow great job!" And all I'm thinking is, "This is the best I'm going to feel for the rest of my life?"

I am also tired and fatigued all the time. But I also have young kids, a job, try to stay active, etc. I think it's just the season of life I'm in. Not sure what your situation is, but maybe it's temporary.

I honestly can't remember the last time I felt good. At least 6 months. No matter how much sleep I get, I'm tired all the time. Not even sleepy, just exhausted (physically and mentally). I have two young kids and a semi-stressful job, but that's the same as before I started feeling like this. Nothing really changed.

My concern is that everything I'm reading online says below 300 is too low, but my doc didn't seem remotely concerned with my number in the 250s

Mine was the same, all the doctors I saw said my numbers were fine, even with a 212 test at 8:3" in the morning. I just googled telehealth testosterone and found that clinic I mentioned earlier, I had all the bloodwork and tests they needed so got started right away.

Anyone know of a TRT-friendly doc in BCS? Talked to mine again and he basically said I'm **** out of luck. Won't even refer me for to a specialist if I'm in their "normal" range. I know there's Apex, but they want $200+ per month and you have to go in for injections.

Don't have a recommendation but idk why primary care doctor don't want to treat low T. Mine in BCS says mine was in the normal range but it was around 300. This was when I was 40. I told him 300 at 40 is too low and I felt like **** all the damn time.

33 years old, test in the 250s and my doctor won't even entertain the idea that it's causing my issues.

Did you take your test first thing in the morning fasted? And are you still getting morning wood? (sorry for the personal question).