Yes on the test, and I would say most but not all mornings. Need to pay more attention to that, I guess

ElephantRider said:

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Yes on the test, and I would say most but not all mornings. Need to pay more attention to that, I guess

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So, definitely not my area of expertise, but generally speaking, if you're still getting morning wood, your testosterone is probably at a sufficient level for your body. There are some pretty swole people out there with testosterone on the low end of normal, and then you've got people like me that have T off the charts (for a natural) that are just average looking.

Now, if you get a bunch of exogenous testosterone injected into you, are you going to feel better? For sure. However, is there an underlying problem that you may be covering up? Possibly.

If you're maximizing a healthy diet, exercising, sleep, and keeping fat off (which I know can be hard at first if you have low T), then your T levels should come up. Certain supplements that can help is magnesium, zinc, boron, and maybe ashwaghanda. Supplement magnesium, zinc, and fish oil. Boron is high in the fruits and nuts I eat, so I don't supplement that. And I don't do ashwghanda, but I hear it helps free up bound testosterone.

Just my thoughts.

I mentioned previously, but I came across Rise Men's Health when trying to find someone to prescribe the testosterone for me to give myself at home, but also willing to work with me based on the labs and tests I've already done. It was extremely easy, and worked with my insurance. Worth looking into, or just give them a call:

https://risemenshealth.com/

sanitariex said:

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I mentioned previously, but I came across Rise Men's Health when trying to find someone to prescribe the testosterone for me to give myself at home, but also willing to work with me based on the labs and tests I've already done. It was extremely easy, and worked with my insurance. Worth looking into, or just give them a call:

https://risemenshealth.com/

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Do you have to pay for a subscription with them?

No, with BCBS PPO. It's roughly $20 for each tele visit, and $25 for 4 vials at the local pharmacy, which gets me through two months at my current dose.

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aggiefan2002 said:

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Just took my first testosterone test. 42 year old male, very fit, workout 6 days a week.

Free was 98.4 and total was 495. These are in normal range but seem a little on the lower ends from what I can tell. If sex, energy, etc. isn't affected I assume I shouldn't worry about it?

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For what it's worth. I was feeling incredibly drained and exhausted all the time, not much desire for anything. I was still working out and eating healthy, but not really making any gains in the gym. My friend suggested and ordered some labs for me. My testosterone was above what is considered normal range. Both free and total. Can't remember the free amount, but the total was close to 1100. But free was also above normal range. I suspect i just have a naturally higher baseline - although looking at me I do not look hugely muscular or anything.

So, based off your numbers, if you're having morning wood, you're probably ok. Yes, everyone will feel better taking exogenous testosterone. But, while there's potential for quite a few side effects and adverse effects, you will essentially buy yourself life long use if you stay on it.

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What steps did you take to address feeling drained and exhausted, and lack of motivation? Curious what solutions you found? Also, age range?

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Don't have a recommendation but idk why primary care doctor don't want to treat low T. Mine in BCS says mine was in the normal range but it was around 300. This was when I was 40. I told him 300 at 40 is too low and I felt like **** all the damn time.

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There are people getting heart attacks from hyperviscosity from elevated red blood cells/hemoglobin while on TRT. There's also a thought process that it can accelerate atherosclerosis, increase risk of prostate cancer, and probably a few other things. I know there's some recent research that it might not do that, but I don't think it's robust research. They're a bit hesitant to do it because it's not something well studied and there is documented risk of harm.

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Just periodically donate blood or get a phlebotomy to alleviate RBC/Hematocrit issues. You also should get a blood test a bunch - I do four times a year to stay on top of everything. Primary car doc does 2X per year and the T clinic I go to does 2 times a year. I space them out so it is every quarter.

Late 30's. I am honestly still feeling it a bit. I think I"m probably a little depressed/lonely, not enough to meet criteria for true depression, but just a little bit of what may be referred to as anhedonia or dysthymia. But I already eat healthy, cleaned things up a bit more. Tried getting more sun/time outside. And forced myself to do various activities with other people. Still something I'm working on.

sanitariex said:

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I mentioned previously, but I came across Rise Men's Health when trying to find someone to prescribe the testosterone for me to give myself at home, but also willing to work with me based on the labs and tests I've already done. It was extremely easy, and worked with my insurance. Worth looking into, or just give them a call:

https://risemenshealth.com/

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Thank you for this. They have been awesome to deal with. Starting treatment as soon as HEB gets the prescription ready

Glad to hear it, I was skeptical to even list them so it didn't come across as some kind of advertisement or something, but they just fit the bill for what I wanted and were easy to work with. Exactly how it should be.

First time to post on this thread. I've been reading it for a while since I got tested a couple of years ago. I'm 57 and my T level is 354, never got my Free T tested. After a couple of years of losing about 40 pds and lifting 5 times a week my numbers were staying constant. My primary care Dr gave me the green light to start TRT. Met with a TRT specialist today and started my first injection this afternoon. I'll report back in a couple of weeks to let everyone know how things are progressing. Besides having a low number I was experiencing fatigue, brain fog, irritable and not feeling myself. Looking forward to the journey back to feeling better.