I'm worried about flow/volume powering the generator. Plus line is already run

ttha_aggie_09 said:

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I'm worried about flow/volume powering the generator. Plus line is already run

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I have my Westinghouse on a quick connect 3/4" hose with a 1/2" reducer. Works fine. The 1/2" hose is more questionable.

Reduce it from 3/4 to 1/2. My neighbor had a big Westinghouse and it ran just fine when he reduced it.

Not sure why this works because the engine is big, but it does and it ran great.

Dill-Ag13 said:

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byfLuger41 said:

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TJaggie14 said:

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If you don't mind me asking, how much did that run you?
Also why Kohler over Generac?

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I wanna say it was between 25-30 installed.


Kohler had slightly better warranty benefits when I closed and I have experience with their products on the commercial side. You frequently see commercial properties/businesses with Kohlers when installing full service Gen sets.

Generac is by no means a bad product, just personal preference. I will say again, liquid cooled is the way to go and both the aforementioned manufacturers make them. Whisper quiet and longer run times without needing oil/service, but increased cost.

If you want to minimize cost get an air cooled Generac.


HTH

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Father in law getting a 30kw Kohler liquid cooled with a 10 year warranty for $36k.

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Sounds about right after factoring a year later and post Beryl. He won't be disappointed, especially on the liquid cooled.

Got my Westinghouse today and attempted to break it in.

Not having much luck so far. The generator starts up fine on NG but turns itself off after about 10 seconds.

I'm not sure if it's not getting enough pressure from the gas meter or what. Seems like it should be able to idle even if pressure is low but what do I know?

I'm planning on getting a propane tank to test that out and try to isolate the issue. Would rather not put any gasoline in there if I can avoid it.

If you use gas, get ethanol free.

I've been waiting months for a shop to open a spot to have my westing house worked on. Going to drop it off next Friday and its a 4 week turnaround.

Well crap. Now I wish I had held out for the Duramax!

Did it come with a 1/2" fitting and hose? My 13kw duromax requires 3/4"

Also, do you have an upgraded, high flow gas meter (if you have a pool heater you probably do).

3rdGenAg05 said:

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Did it come with a 1/2" fitting and hose? My 13kw duromax requires 3/4"

Also, do you have an upgraded, high flow gas meter (if you have a pool heater you probably do).

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Yeah, the hose is 1/2" on both ends.

I don't think the meter is upgraded, but i would have hoped my plumber would have mentioned me needing that.

Yeah, I cannot quote you a required flow rate off hand, but I know to have pool heater installed, we had to upgrade our meter from CP to allow more gas (or maybe higher pressure). When I mentioned running a generator off that, several people said I'd have to have that upgraded meter. Again, I cannot vouch for that being your issue, but my generator fires right up off nat gas.

It's because I ran gas with corn juice through this thing. Even though I ran it dry something is gummed up.

I blame the fuel, not the machine.

You added the engine oil, right? Floated the neutral if plugging into the house?

The sizing on the Westinghouse hoses is suspect at 1/2" depending on what you read. I have a 3/4" pipe fitting coming off the meter for mine that seems to help

https://motorsnorkel.com/installation-information-and-pipe-sizing/

https://www.elliottelectric.com/StaticPages/ElectricalReferences/Guides/generator-fuel-line-sizing-for-natural-gas-and-propane.aspx

https://www.uscarburetion.com/natural-gas.htm

So you reduce the 3/4" at the end of the run and then connect to the 1/2" quick connect inlet?

Correct

From the first link:
Though a generator may need 3/4 or larger pipe to the generator, a 1/2 hook-up hose is usually sufficient if kept short.

That might be my next step if the propane works.

Do you have a link to the hose you bought? Was hoping not to have to buy anything else, but got to get the damn thing working.

https://a.co/d/1tOg5a7

There may be better deals out there but this is what I bought

Thanks

I ran the generator on a fresh tank of propane and it's the same issue.

I'm at a bit of a loss at this point. I filled the damn thing up with the supplied oil, so not sure what else it could be.

Guess I'll be calling Westinghouse.

Check the sparkplug. It's at least starting for a few seconds?

And make sure the cables to the battery are tightened on the posts.

I've also seen that the Westinghouse generators are recommended to replace the plug

Anyone here running a generator off a 50 foot 1/2 inch natural gas hose? If so, any starvation issues from the generator?

I have a Westinghouse Wgen10500tfc and am currently using the 25 foot 1/2 natural gas hose that came with the generator, but that won't reach into my back yard where I'd prefer to run it. I'm looking at getting a 40 foot hose made from AB3 Power but I want to get some experiences from other first before spending another $200 on a different hose.

it starts for a few seconds and then stops suddenly. Not like "sputter out"...but like the engine was killed suddenly.

None of the warning lights for low oil or CO are on, but could be a fault there I suppose.

By "check the sparkplug"....what am I checking for? should I just replace it with the NGK that everyone suggests so I can try to isolate that issue?

Diggity said:

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Got my Westinghouse today and attempted to break it in.

Not having much luck so far. The generator starts up fine on NG but turns itself off after about 10 seconds.

I'm not sure if it's not getting enough pressure from the gas meter or what. Seems like it should be able to idle even if pressure is low but what do I know?

I'm planning on getting a propane tank to test that out and try to isolate the issue. Would rather not put any gasoline in there if I can avoid it.

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There should be a choke on there that you might have to mess around with to line it out. But it should definitely run normal otherwise.

I'll buy you a 6 pack if you come help me diagnose this thing

I replaced mine with the ngk plug before I ran it so can't give any advice but I'd say it's an easy swap to eliminate an option

Yeah, we can cross the spark plug off the list. New plug didn't change anything.

How charged is the battery? I've heard of some weird things happening if you let the battery charge get too low.

Westinghouse comes with a plug in charger, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Did you plug it in and charge it before starting it up?

I've also read that some of the selector switch blocks have been getting installed incorrectly from the factory. Try running the generator on Propane on the NG selection and vice versa.

Flaith said:

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Did you plug it in and charge it before starting it up?

I've also read that some of the selector switch blocks have been getting installed incorrectly from the factory. Try running the generator on Propane on the NG selection and vice versa.

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Yeah, I don't think the battery is the issue since I had it charged all night.

The thing starts right up...it just doesn't stay running.

I've tried every fuel setting under the sun. I'm thinking it might be a busted sensor but need to have Westinghouse diagnose.

It could be the low oil sensor. Westinghouse support is telling me to return it, which doesn't help a bunch since the thing is out of stock.

I'm hesitant to run gasoline there, because even if that works, it doesn't help my problem.

I don't think this model has the "low idle" switch

Diggity said:

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It could be the low oil sensor. Westinghouse support is telling me to return it, which doesn't help a bunch since the thing is out of stock.

I'm hesitant to run gasoline there, because even if that works, it doesn't help my problem.

I don't think this model has the "low idle" switch

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That sucks! I was gonna text you and come take a look. Downside of them churning these things out as fast as possible. Quality is suspect at times.