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In reply to AgLA06 • 4:51p, 7/16/24
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AgLA06 said:
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Companies don't randomly send workers in hopes of getting paid. There are agreements long in place before disasters. You really think companies are going to send crews on overtime and per diem to sit in a parking lot for 5 days just because?

You're right in there being bigger issues if random companies did so.

https://www.entergynewsroom.com/storm-center/restoration/mutual-assistance/


So a bunch of lineman are just lying for no reason, while you, who I'm guessing doesn't work for an electricity company, knows this is all just made us BS. Got it


Turns out, yes. Or people never even talked to them and just made it up.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/verify/verify-social-media-post-power-crew-job-negotiations-false/285-29715159-9f25-4362-84f2-28cf3d8222e3

There have been several people here that have said they spoke to them and several here that have posted pictures. Not to mention the pictures of all of the trucks sitting in parking lots with workers in them during the middle of the day. Guess they were just all taking naps in their trucks after their 18 hour shifts? Surely you're not that gullible
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4:56p, 7/16/24
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Xfinity is finally back on in the Galleria area.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 5:04p, 7/16/24
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
maroon barchetta said:
He's walking around because idiots vote blue for judges.

It's that simple.


Not to be too pedantic, but I'm fairly certain since 2005, both HC and FBC have been red. Why wasn't he put away then?

~egon
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5:18p, 7/16/24
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After the last 2 hours I would rather have a root canal than deal with Comcast.
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In reply to Dr. Doctor • 5:18p, 7/16/24
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
maroon barchetta said:
He's walking around because idiots vote blue for judges.

It's that simple.


Not to be too pedantic, but I'm fairly certain since 2005, both HC and FBC have been red. Why wasn't he put away then?

~egon


Black
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In reply to Dr. Doctor • 6:21p, 7/16/24
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Dr. Doctor said:
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
maroon barchetta said:
He's walking around because idiots vote blue for judges.

It's that simple.


Not to be too pedantic, but I'm fairly certain since 2005, both HC and FBC have been red. Why wasn't he put away then?

~egon
Are you classifying HC as red with morons like Lina Hidalgo and the "black girl magic" judges running that county? HC was once red, but since about 2018 that has been flipped to blue. FBC is also blue these days.
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9:58p, 7/16/24
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if HC is so red can we have Ed Emmett back?
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10:00p, 7/16/24
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Does someone want to tell him his data is Way obsolete?
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In reply to AlaskanAg99 • 10:05p, 7/16/24
If he's a liberal and you use logic and facts and truth, will it change his mind?
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In reply to cone • 10:52p, 7/16/24
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cone said:
if HC is so red can we have Ed Emmett back?


Only If he knocks down the astrodome
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In reply to SpreadsheetAg • 7:55a, 7/17/24
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SpreadsheetAg said:
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if HC is so red can we have Ed Emmett back?


Only If he knocks down the astrodome


Give it to Tillman if he makes it into a Casino
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7:56a, 7/17/24
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In reply to wessimo • 8:20a, 7/17/24
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lmao

Linemen are giving teachers a run for their money…..
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8:30a, 7/17/24
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When the next storm hits Houston, there will definitely be more young able-bodied guys chasing disaster money. There are some oxygen stealing miscreants creating trouble, but it will be forgotten once these linemen disburse and the next crop of apprentices see what kind of F250s and F350s linemen are buying with the Beryl money brought home.
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8:54a, 7/17/24
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lights still flashing at TC Jester and I10. Guess we'll just wait until November and hurricane season is over to fix those.
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In reply to 98Ag99Grad • 8:57a, 7/17/24
So December then?
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In reply to wessimo • 9:25a, 7/17/24
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But the poster who wants to be relevant on this thread says he talked to someone who said this was all true.
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In reply to BSD • 9:27a, 7/17/24
The Grizzy has spoken.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 9:27a, 7/17/24
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Dr. Doctor said:
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
maroon barchetta said:
He's walking around because idiots vote blue for judges.

It's that simple.


Not to be too pedantic, but I'm fairly certain since 2005, both HC and FBC have been red. Why wasn't he put away then?

~egon
Are you classifying HC as red with morons like Lina Hidalgo and the "black girl magic" judges running that county? HC was once red, but since about 2018 that has been flipped to blue. FBC is also blue these days.


I'm saying that HC didn't turn blue and BGM didn't happen until 2016 or 2018. So from 2005 to at least 2012, red judges could have put him away. Same with FBC.

So I'm saying that in must scenarios, a lot of red=blue and blue=red.

But I'm not trying to jump into politics in this thread.

~egon
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12:03p, 7/17/24
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can we have Ed Emmett back?
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3:59p, 7/17/24
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https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/generator-centerpoint-beryl-high-price-19569498.php?utm_content=cta&sid=5b0232722ddf9c12eaecf521&ss=A&st_rid=8d06a5d6-defa-4f88-a223-acb9fd75bfb1&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=&utm_campaign=HC_The713Evening


Spend money on those but not making sure the infrastructure is sound?? Yeah, that makes total sense. And worse of all you don't even fully utilize them....
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In reply to mnetop • 4:07p, 7/17/24
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mnetop said:
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/generator-centerpoint-beryl-high-price-19569498.php?utm_content=cta&sid=5b0232722ddf9c12eaecf521&ss=A&st_rid=8d06a5d6-defa-4f88-a223-acb9fd75bfb1&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=&utm_campaign=HC_The713Evening


Spend money on those but not making sure the infrastructure is sound?? Yeah, that makes total sense. And worse of all you don't even fully utilize them....
This is infuriating

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That's partly because even though CenterPoint has referred to the equipment as "mobile generation," the vast majority of it is not actually that mobile. Fifteen of the generators each with a capacity of 32 megawatts, big enough to power entire neighborhoods take several days to assemble and cannot be moved without a special permit, which itself can take days to secure

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He acknowledged that the larger 32-megawatt generators have never been used, but said they serve as a crucial "insurance policy" for even bigger power outages.

I guess they are saving these for when Houston gets taken out by a nuke or something?

Also ... please don't forget who actually paid for this:

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Houston-area leaders, consumer advocates and many trade groups disagree. They launched a fierce protest when CenterPoint first asked in 2022 to hike rates to cover the cost of leasing the generators.

But state regulators overruled them, ultimately allowing CenterPoint to recoup the cost of the generators plus a 6.5% profit. They've already added about $1 per month to the average residential customer's bill, and are expected to hike rates by at least another $3 a month in the coming years, records show.
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4:13p, 7/17/24
Some of these trees I see around my area I just wonder if the homeowner could sell them for a profit. Seems like these giant pines and oaks that came down mostly in tact could make some nice furniture or something.
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4:17p, 7/17/24
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Let's put some perspective around that article.

CP could have those gen sets up and running full tilt, but if the power lines in your 'hood are down, it doesn't mean squat.

These gen sets are to take the place of power feeds into a substation. Yes, they are large. That's what it takes to make big power.

Big machines require many pieces and parts to make them work. It is simply the nature of the equipment. This isn't new or groundbreaking, it's just that most people haven't been lucky enough to see big things put together.

The article is barking up the wrong tree mostly. The focus seems to be more on the complexity of the setup rather than CP crapping cash down a hole when it could have been much better spent elsewhere.
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 4:19p, 7/17/24
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Texaggie7nine said:
Some of these trees I see around my area I just wonder if the homeowner could sell them for a profit. Seems like these giant pines and oaks that came down mostly in tact could make some nice furniture or something.
Not likely.

Your rando tree cutters likely don't have large enough equipment to haul off big timber, and on the flip side, the guys who do only make a profit margin through volume of timber sold that is quickly cut down and loaded onto one truck.
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4:22p, 7/17/24
If any neighborhood wants to pool funds and get one of these my buddy's company up here in MN makes these bad boys

https://www.trystar.com/product/gridpak/
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In reply to Pahdz • 4:53p, 7/17/24
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Man, just need to park one of those in the cul de sac in front of my house.
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4:55p, 7/17/24
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Nastyish storm there
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In reply to Ag13 • 5:06p, 7/17/24
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Ag13 said:
mnetop said:
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/generator-centerpoint-beryl-high-price-19569498.php?utm_content=cta&sid=5b0232722ddf9c12eaecf521&ss=A&st_rid=8d06a5d6-defa-4f88-a223-acb9fd75bfb1&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=&utm_campaign=HC_The713Evening


Spend money on those but not making sure the infrastructure is sound?? Yeah, that makes total sense. And worse of all you don't even fully utilize them....
This is infuriating

Quote:
That's partly because even though CenterPoint has referred to the equipment as "mobile generation," the vast majority of it is not actually that mobile. Fifteen of the generators each with a capacity of 32 megawatts, big enough to power entire neighborhoods take several days to assemble and cannot be moved without a special permit, which itself can take days to secure

Quote:
He acknowledged that the larger 32-megawatt generators have never been used, but said they serve as a crucial "insurance policy" for even bigger power outages.

I guess they are saving these for when Houston gets taken out by a nuke or something?

Also ... please don't forget who actually paid for this:

Quote:
Houston-area leaders, consumer advocates and many trade groups disagree. They launched a fierce protest when CenterPoint first asked in 2022 to hike rates to cover the cost of leasing the generators.

But state regulators overruled them, ultimately allowing CenterPoint to recoup the cost of the generators plus a 6.5% profit. They've already added about $1 per month to the average residential customer's bill, and are expected to hike rates by at least another $3 a month in the coming years, records show.


Seems like the things that gets used when there's is a shortage of statewide power.

Those generators don't do much good when there's plenty of power, but the lines to deliver it are all down
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5:42p, 7/17/24
Still no Xfinity where I am.

At least I can decide to choose other internet options.
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5:44p, 7/17/24
My power came back Sunday but went out again during that storm.
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In reply to Chase McGuire • 5:58p, 7/17/24
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Was it just a normal summer thunderstorm?
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In reply to Sea Speed • 6:00p, 7/17/24
It was pretty nasty, but yes. The whole street lost power. Just came back. Was out for an hour or so.
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Traffic is freaking brutal.
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In reply to CDUB98 • 6:45p, 7/17/24
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CDUB98 said:
Let's put some perspective around that article.

CP could have those gen sets up and running full tilt, but if the power lines in your 'hood are down, it doesn't mean squat.

These gen sets are to take the place of power feeds into a substation. Yes, they are large. That's what it takes to make big power.

Big machines require many pieces and parts to make them work. It is simply the nature of the equipment. This isn't new or groundbreaking, it's just that most people haven't been lucky enough to see big things put together.

The article is barking up the wrong tree mostly. The focus seems to be more on the complexity of the setup rather than CP crapping cash down a hole when it could have been much better spent elsewhere.
Here is what bugs me about those. Centerpoint was able to pass the cost of buying the generator off onto the customer and stick up with a 6.5% profit on top of making us buy them for Centperpoint. But if they ever get used, Centerpoint isn't going to give that power away for free, they are going to charge the going rate for it and add profit on top of that too. So Centerpoint customers will get to buy power from generators that they already paid for and will be forced by a monopoly to pay for profit on top of it both times.

At the very least, it was wrong to let them charge a profit on top of the cost for generators that have never been used and that the customers got nothing from. But to make them pay for the power generated if they are eventually put to use will just be adding insult to injury.
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