The problem is, and why nothing will change with CenterPoint, is that people are like me.

I was pissed off and *****ing - but then my power came back on - I got back to life and haven't thought about CenterPoint since except reading this thread.

There won't be any follow-up because people just move on.

cone said:

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there's also another massive difference between now and then

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Social media?

currently there is zero political leadership

cone said:

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currently there is zero political leadership

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Very true. Hidalgo needs to be removed

Cepe said:

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The problem is, and why nothing will change with CenterPoint, is that people are like me.

I was pissed off and *****ing - but then my power came back on - I got back to life and haven't thought about CenterPoint since except reading this thread.

There won't be any follow-up because people just move on.

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Bingo.

Interesting.

Mayor Whitmire said that George R Brown had no power yesterday and it's bad that Minute Maid Park did.

I just learned that GRB did have power yesterday and people were being served food. I was sent this photo showing Texas Mesquite Grill giving over 3,000 burgers pic.twitter.com/Wvmj4L2Aa2

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) July 11, 2024

it's turtles all the way down

if they had no power how are the lights on?

Also those are FFA kids, there is convention going on, they didn't cancel it

Our choices were SheJack or him. There were no winners in this.

Cepe said:

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The problem is, and why nothing will change with CenterPoint, is that people are like me.

I was pissed off and *****ing - but then my power came back on - I got back to life and haven't thought about CenterPoint since except reading this thread.

There won't be any follow-up because people just move on.

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I tried. Things were so bad in my neighborhood last year, I spoke in front of The Woodlands Township board twice and there was an article in The Chronicle. There have been similar articles on other neighborhoods (a lot of them in Spring) with the same problem.

In addition to calling out the issues with our power supply, I called out the complete lack of communication, and another person quoted in the article raised the red flag about what was going to happen in a hurricane (since our outages were occurring in sunny weather).

I filed a complaint with the TPUC, and that was just sent right back to Centerpoint to address. I got a laundry list of excuses, and was even told that some of the multi-hour outages we had didn't even occur.

Their tracker and "outage updates" system hasn't been working since last June.

I don't think Centerpoint even has an accurate number of how many people are without power and where all of those outages are.

Bottom line is, they don't like the negative press, but they know there are no repercussions to continuing their MO. No fines, they ignore unhappy customers, and as others have said, once most people have power, we go about our daily lives and don't complain until another outage occurs.

They have zero real accountabliity, and for that reason, nothing will change.

TXTransplant said:

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Cepe said:

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The problem is, and why nothing will change with CenterPoint, is that people are like me.

I was pissed off and *****ing - but then my power came back on - I got back to life and haven't thought about CenterPoint since except reading this thread.

There won't be any follow-up because people just move on.

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I tried. Things were so bad in my neighborhood last year, I spoke in front of The Woodlands Township board twice and there was an article in The Chronicle. There have been similar articles on other neighborhoods (a lot of them in Spring) with the same problem.

In addition to calling out the issues with our power supply, I called out the complete lack of communication, and another person quoted in the article raised the red flag about what was going to happen in a hurricane (since our outages were occurring in sunny weather).

I filed a complaint with the TPUC, and that was just sent right back to Centerpoint to address. I got a Landry list of excuses, and was even told that some of the multi-hour outages we had didn't even occur.

Their tracker and "outage updates" system hasn't been working since last June.

I don't think Centerpoint even has an accurate number of how many people are without power and where all of those outages are.

Bottom line is, they don't like the negative press, but they know there are no repercussions to continuing their MO. No fines, they ignore unhappy customers, and as others have said, once most people have power, we go about our daily lives and don't complain until another outage occurs.

They have zero real accountabliity, and for that reason, nothing will change.

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Add to it that all the costs they incur to repair just get passed on to the customer. There's no accountability from even a profit margin standpoint. Which is why you see so many pictures of parking lots full of out of town workers (getting paid significant overtime I'm sure) waiting for hours on instructions for where to go. There's no need to be efficient. There's not even a need to provide updates.

And I'm in no way railing on the workers here. They deserve significant praise and compensation for being away from their homes to repair our city. Just wish Centerpoint could actually have an effective and efficient plan for how to utilize them.

Being without power for 3 days after a direct hit of a hurricane is probably straight up average.

The track and how long it takes for them to deteriorate once they hit land makes comparisons kind of difficult.

For example Alicia was a category 3 at landfall but was a category 1 as it went over downtown. At Hobby they had 81 mph sustained winds and 99 mph peaks. But at IAH for the same storm it was only 51 mph winds with 78 mph gusts. Ike had a peak gust at IAH of 82 mph.

Beryl had peak gusts of 89 mph as it went over Hobby, and 83 mph at IAH. So at least as far as the inland wind effects go, you could say that Beryl was "like" a category 2 or 3 storm.

I think we have a lot of people living here now who weren't here for Ike much less Alicia and don't have a good reference. Hurricanes are no joke, even if you take away the storm surge.

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Interesting.

Mayor Whitmire said that George R Brown had no power yesterday and it's bad that Minute Maid Park did.

I just learned that GRB did have power yesterday and people were being served food. I was sent this photo showing Texas Mesquite Grill giving over 3,000 burgers pic.twitter.com/Wvmj4L2Aa2

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) July 11, 2024

it's turtles all the way down

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Whitmire really didn't do himself any favors by complaining about the Astros. The Astros are an absolute beacon for Houstonians during hurricane events, and this week they've been awesome in serving the community that's in need. Minute Maid Park also has a giant (like 18 wheeler size) generator in the basement that I assume was paid for privately. Can you imagine how much of a disaster it would be if Houston's infrastructure decided to crap out during a World Series game with 40,000+ people at it? Could get deadly with no lights/communication ability and people trying to exit as quickly as possible. So ya I'm glad the Astros are prepared for an extended power loss and I'm glad that they are an entity that is trying to get life back to normal right now.

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TXTransplant said:

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Cepe said:

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The problem is, and why nothing will change with CenterPoint, is that people are like me.

I was pissed off and *****ing - but then my power came back on - I got back to life and haven't thought about CenterPoint since except reading this thread.

There won't be any follow-up because people just move on.

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I tried. Things were so bad in my neighborhood last year, I spoke in front of The Woodlands Township board twice and there was an article in The Chronicle. There have been similar articles on other neighborhoods (a lot of them in Spring) with the same problem.

In addition to calling out the issues with our power supply, I called out the complete lack of communication, and another person quoted in the article raised the red flag about what was going to happen in a hurricane (since our outages were occurring in sunny weather).

I filed a complaint with the TPUC, and that was just sent right back to Centerpoint to address. I got a Landry list of excuses, and was even told that some of the multi-hour outages we had didn't even occur.

Their tracker and "outage updates" system hasn't been working since last June.

I don't think Centerpoint even has an accurate number of how many people are without power and where all of those outages are.

Bottom line is, they don't like the negative press, but they know there are no repercussions to continuing their MO. No fines, they ignore unhappy customers, and as others have said, once most people have power, we go about our daily lives and don't complain until another outage occurs.

They have zero real accountabliity, and for that reason, nothing will change.

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Add to it that all the costs they incur to repair just get passed on to the customer. There's no accountability from even a profit margin standpoint. Which is why you see so many pictures of parking lots full of out of town workers (getting paid significant overtime I'm sure) waiting for hours on instructions for where to go. There's no need to be efficient. There's not even a need to provide updates.

And I'm in no way railing on the workers here. They deserve significant praise and compensation for being away from their homes to repair our city. Just wish Centerpoint could actually have an effective and efficient plan for how to utilize them.

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The rep assigned to our case (who was a nice guy who I think genuinely cared) flat out admitted that they don't have the money or the staff to address either the tree/vegetation or equipment maintenance issues.

I think part of the problem is their service area has just gotten too big for them to maintain with their current staffing and budget.

I think the disjointed local governments spread out over the multi-county area where they operate makes accountability difficult as well.

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The reason why ERCOT got in so much hot water after the freeze is that it caused lasting damage to people's homes. Being a little hot for 3 days isn't enough to call people to action. People will just get back to it. When you don't have any power, all there is to do is sit on Texags and complain. Then, power comes back on and you go back to work.

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Don't want to get political, but ERCOT also got a lot of attention because people were able to attack a republican governor of a red state (and Cancun Cruz) and use it to their advantage. With this, they will not point fingers at the failure of their fellow democrats in a blue city. Same reason you hear nothing about Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, DC, etc.

Sooooo…is this our big storm? Are we good for the next seven or eight years??

Maybe it's the timing - being in July and not September - it just doesn't seem like a regular hurricane.

This doesn't even seem like a bigger storm... we could very well get another one this year.

cone said:

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Anyone who knows my love for Houston knows how radical this idea is: I’m just not sure if I want to live here anymore.

— Alison Cook (@alisoncook) July 11, 2024

Three days without power

I'm sorry this is single ply soft

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Houston is mostly a ****hole on its best days. I don't blame anyone for wanting to get out after three days without power.

Talmbout!

I’d rather die in Houston in the dark, a dehydrated, shriveled-up ballsack of a raisin than to live a single comfortable minute in Dallas.

— Archbishop Deshaies (@HouCounterplot) July 9, 2024

Furlock Bones said:

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Our choices were SheJack or him. There were no winners in this.

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Yeah, but does SheJack also hate Dora?

I'm guessing yes since they both want camera time.