What's really stupid on the 'indicators' is that three of them have the same threshold for red, orange and yellow. How does that work?
drumboy said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:
The vaccines could cause infertility and / or birth defects and we wouldn't even know it yet.
Thats a fact.
Let that sink in.
Interesting. Got any backup to this fact of a possible side effect?
TXTransplant said:
But I guess we all "could" get struck by lightning, hit by falling pieces of Chinese rocket, or die in a plane crash, too.
aTm_bomb said:TXTransplant said:
But I guess we all "could" get struck by lightning, hit by falling pieces of Chinese rocket, or die in a plane crash, too.
All possible vaccine side effects
You really showed them. Wonder if they are out of business yet?J_Daddy05 said:
Had my first "no mask no service" experience at a UPS store in Cypress. No problem. Up the road to the next one.
Really, really hard to imagine a private business throwing away money over a big nothing burger like a mask. Especially at this point and time.
I actually phrased my post (and my response to the employee at the store) in a non-confrontational manner. I literally do not carry a mask with me any where anymore and they did not have an extra available.WES2006AG said:You really showed them. Wonder if they are out of business yet?J_Daddy05 said:
Had my first "no mask no service" experience at a UPS store in Cypress. No problem. Up the road to the next one.
Really, really hard to imagine a private business throwing away money over a big nothing burger like a mask. Especially at this point and time.
WES2006AG said:You really showed them. Wonder if they are out of business yet?J_Daddy05 said:
Had my first "no mask no service" experience at a UPS store in Cypress. No problem. Up the road to the next one.
Really, really hard to imagine a private business throwing away money over a big nothing burger like a mask. Especially at this point and time.
J_Daddy05 said:
At this point I truly wonder what the effect of a business just saying "screw it" and letting employees go completely maskless would be. I'm just guessing it's easier to continue to comply (somewhat) than face the threat of a viral video with a Karen ranting at employees.
gougler08 said:
It sure seems like a lot of people don't understand encouraged vs. required on signs and/or people just don't read the signs anymore.
SW side here and it's probably 50/50 on signs where I visit, but probably 90/10 on masks vs. no masksTXTransplant said:gougler08 said:
It sure seems like a lot of people don't understand encouraged vs. required on signs and/or people just don't read the signs anymore.
I don't know about where you are, but up here in The Woodlands, the vast majority of establishments that still have signs up, the signs say "required". I've maybe seen one that says "recommended".
J_Daddy05 said:
At this point I truly wonder what the effect of a business just saying "screw it" and letting employees go completely maskless would be. I'm just guessing it's easier to continue to comply (somewhat) than face the threat of a viral video with a Karen ranting at employees.
I tend to agree, but TxTransplant also brought up a fair example of someone who may continue to require employees to mask due to the nature of their customer base. I do think the overwhelming majority of businesses (especially small businesses) could easily dump them, including employees. More and more customers coming maskless to their stores will probably help expedite the process.aTm2004 said:J_Daddy05 said:
At this point I truly wonder what the effect of a business just saying "screw it" and letting employees go completely maskless would be. I'm just guessing it's easier to continue to comply (somewhat) than face the threat of a viral video with a Karen ranting at employees.
Considering the number of small businesses I've been to whose employees are no longer wearing them, I'd say it's minimal.
WES2006AG said:You really showed them. Wonder if they are out of business yet?J_Daddy05 said:
Had my first "no mask no service" experience at a UPS store in Cypress. No problem. Up the road to the next one.
Really, really hard to imagine a private business throwing away money over a big nothing burger like a mask. Especially at this point and time.
Where did he say that? Thats a positive step for sureRanger #007 said:
We're definitely seeing less mask wearing as the weeks go on on the southeast side. Couple that with even Fauci saying they're likely going to be loosening guidance and I think you see it start to drop drastically.
I'll reiterate my above statement.SoupNazi2001 said:Ranger #007 said:
We're definitely seeing less mask wearing as the weeks go on on the southeast side. Couple that with even Fauci saying they're likely going to be loosening guidance and I think you see it start to drop drastically.
Um he didn't say that. Quite the opposite actually.Fauci: "Possible" That Mask Mandates Could Last Indefinitely To Fight Flu https://t.co/gQBnXn3PA2
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) May 10, 2021
Quote:
Dr. Anthony Fauci says federal guidance on wearing face coverings indoors may change soon.
Sunday on ABC News, Fauci was asked whether it's time to start relaxing indoor masks requirements. Fauci replied, "I think so, and I think you're going to probably be seeing that as we go along, and as more people get vaccinated."
He and Biden are in a race to see who become completely senile first.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
This stale fart scoffed at the general public wearing masks.
Talked down to people like a bunch of peon uneducated neanderthals in flyover country.
Whatever this senile boomer says, I'm doing the opposite.
People have cast their lot with a group based on emotion and appeal to authority. None of that carries much freight with me and the inability to get more substantial reasoning has been frustrating. Everyone else in the world is scared well beyond the actual circumstances and will accept anything to get out of the doom loop.TarponChaser said:
So disappointed in my family- meaning my sister and BiL and parents.
My sister and BiL live with their kids outside Denver. Their kids are 10 & 6 and are close to our boys (niece is 9 months younger than our oldest and nephew is 10 days younger than our youngest). My sister has been planning to come down to visit everybody here next month and then drops the whole "if you're not vaccinated we won't be seeing you" in the family text string.
The Mrs. and I have not been vaccinated because we're still exhibiting antibodies from our covid infections 6 months ago. And there's the TBD nature of long-term effects, positive and negative, of the vaccine. We're not opposed to vaccines in general it's the still unknown nature of a lot of things and the still "emergency authorization" rather than standard approvals. Plus, there's the ultimately very low risk of actual bad outcomes vs. the unknowns here.
Of course this blows up on the family text string.
Then my old man, a man with an Ivy League PhD in microbiology calls and starts haranguing me over it. Of course I lay out my reasoning and it's not mere stubbornness. It's reading studies and speaking with doctors, including my primary care physician and weighing the risk vs. reward here.
It's so frustrating for people who are educated and should know better to lose their heads. And even more frustrating to have to defend reasoned and rational decisions made on research and personal risk tolerance.
Ranger #007 said:
I think that's kind of thing people can expect when people have started lumping in folks that don't want to get this vaccination right away with the anti-vaxers we've had for years. We got the vaccine, but I completely understand why some people don't want to.
XpressAg09 said:
Are they vaccinated? Do they trust their vaccine? They should be fine. If not, why do they hate science?