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TXTransplant
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The biggest problem with this approach is that there are some districts that already have a low case count.

Harris County is huge, and the rest of the county is being punished for what's happening in CoH.

Active cases CoH:Harris Co is 2.6:1

I just checked the stats for the five zip codes covered by our district. There are a total of 695 active cases.

One of those zip codes (77375) has ZERO recorded cases (active or recovered).

The zip code with the most active cases (77429) has 277, but there is only one school there.

The majority of our schools are in 77389, 77375, and 77377, where there are a grand total of 418 active cases.

I don't know what the number of new cases per day is, but if the total number if active cases is only 695, I'm pretty sure it's <400.

Starting in-person school should be a district by district decision.
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Ducks4brkfast said:

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I read it as 400 cases per day and either 5% positive or 15% of medical resources. Regardless it's a ridiculous set of criteria.

The below quote is bolded in this article:

https://www.readyharris.org/a-roadmap-to-reopen-schools

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To move down the ladder of the threat level system, all the thresholds for the indicators must be met sustainably.


And Orange is still only 25% in-person and that's special ed, homeless kids, etc.
This sh-t is almost criminal.
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cone said:

are you serious?

she's saying less than 200 positive cases in the greater Houston area cases for two weeks straight to allow for in-person instruction?

holy f if that's correct


Thank goodness she got told to get ****ed.
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So if people just stopped testing, our kids could go to school. Seems simple enough.
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did I miss something
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Only if you completely stop because the positive percentage would still get you. That is the get you either way statement. You have to be love total cases and low percent positive...
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Their "exit strategy" here is complete garbage. They would keep us locked up until cases are effectively zero and apparently they reserve the right to count as creatively as they please.

Then they get Karen Facebook to applaud them for "being brave" for restricting others' lives and paying no price for being wrong. They have successfully exploited the safety angle into a political heads I win, tails you lose because people do not care for truth, evidence or reason, only feelings.

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One of y'all (looking at you, Keegan) ought to create a twitter campaign to get this info out, something like "Harris County Held Hostage" and rip the mask off of some of this stuff. Tweet at the TV stations and Michael Berry and Crenshaw and Cruz or whomever.

I don't know how there's going to be any changing any of this. It's certainly not helping being buried on a Tine board on Texags.
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Absurd
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It's almost like they picked the stats that are easiest to manipulate and moved the goalposts so they're unobtainable. I wonder why death rate isn't included in their metrics? I wonder why number of deaths isn't included? I wonder why they're stockpiling positive tests and trickling them out?

Hmmm....

They used to tar and feather mother ****ers for less than this.
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Well I know when it comes to medical recommendations I trust Lina Hidalgo more than Harvard. Damn Yankees.


Well her resume's only entry under "Experience" prior to her current role is "Medical Center Spanish Interpreter," so maybe she learned a thing or two from the doctors.
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candidly I'm shocked a left leaning advocacy group hasn't fired up a federal lawsuit alleging the suffering minority and economically disadvantaged children will suffer due to scientifically dubious policy.


Maybe you missed this, but Lina is a Democrat.
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she's a lot of things
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cone
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I liked Sly and was ambivalent to her as the year began

not so much now
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cone
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probably because I don't care that much

until they started going out of their way too **** up my scene
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cone
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I mean it sucks

but why is this surprising?

lockdowns have their own death tolls and the pandemic is disrupting literally everything
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This is simply not true.



https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

See that 110 next to 1662833? That means all cause deaths are 110% of expected.

That means excess deaths are in the neighborhood of 151k (calculated by 1662833 * (1 - 1/1.1) ).
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My problem is its gone from flattening the curve to make sure no one gets it..Making sure no one ever gets sick from this is not realistic.
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we don't know the long term effects of bat aids tho
TXTransplant
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cone said:

we don't know the long term effects of bat aids tho


So what? Pneumonia has long term effects. The flu has long term effects. Diabetes has long term effects. Obesity has long term effects.

We haven't shut everything down to protect people from those illnesses.

We are to the point where protecting yourself and your family needs to transition from being a group effort to an individual effort.

Preventing hospitals from becoming overwhelmed and running out of PPE necessitated a collective group effort.

Hospitals are not overwhelmed and they have sufficient PPE.

It's time for people to take personal ownership. If you don't want to get sick, stay home.

If you want to venture out in public, wear a mask and socially distance.

Evaluate your risk tolerance for yourself and your family and act accordingly.

We cannot prevent 100% of infections. It's impossible, EVEN IF we keep things shut down. And in the process, thousands of people will suffer needlessly and die from other causes because everything is shut down. Why is suffering with or dying from coronavirus more tragic that suffering or dying from hunger, diabetes, the flu, depression/suicide, domestic violence, etc? The answer is, it's not.

As a society, we have to accept that some people will get sick with this virus and some people will die. That's not being cruel and insensitive; that's accepting reality.

It's pointless to create a hierarchy for tragedy and suffering. We do our best to prevent all forms while also accepting that they are an inevitable part of life.

Edited to add: I don't know why I even bothered to reply to this poster, as he admitted on another thread that he would not send his kid to public school if the school required masks. Because masks are psychologically harmful to children. So, it's clear he/she is all about the 'buts' and 'what ifs' as long as he or his family isn't personally inconvenienced.
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Fort Bend continues to report the Texas Health Trace backlog info (which is months old) in their daily numbers. Presenting 152 cases instead of the actual 35 new cases is a huge difference in where we are actually at...

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I think he was being sarcastic. Never know, though.
TXTransplant
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He posted something similar a few weeks ago, so it's hard to tell if it's sarcasm or not.
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He's a coronabro one day, open it up advocate the next
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I'm honestly kind of to the point where I believe everyone is just cashing in on their laziness. Maybe I'm overly skeptical, who knows. Outside of a small percentage that truly believes we can't let anyone get sick, the rest are just cashing in on the fear porn to enjoy a free ride.

But people got to work from home, government stimulus checks, bonus unemployment checks. And they just don't give a ***** Keep it all locked down, I'm enjoying not doing jack **** and the government will keep printing money and keep paying me to do jack *****
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Unintended consequences of vast sweeping social changes. Deferred medical care is likely a significant factor.
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third coast.. said:

It's impossible to get a bead on cone
Cone:
TXTransplant
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htxag09 said:

I'm honestly kind of to the point where I believe everyone is just cashing in on their laziness. Maybe I'm overly skeptical, who knows. Outside of a small percentage that truly believes we can't let anyone get sick, the rest are just cashing in on the fear porn to enjoy a free ride.

But people got to work from home, government stimulus checks, bonus unemployment checks. And they just don't give a ***** Keep it all locked down, I'm enjoying not doing jack **** and the government will keep printing money and keep paying me to do jack *****


I have quite a few friends/coworkers who probably should take extra efforts to protect themselves, and I want them to have that option.

I, however, am not one of those people. I am healthy, do not suffer from preexisting conditions, and want to be free to live my life (as long as I don't put others at risk - which I don't). There is absolutely no reason why I should be cooped up in my house, avoiding things like getting my hair cut.

Frankly, it's those of us who ARE healthy/lower risk who are going to drag the restaurant, retail, and travel industries out of the economic gutter they are in right now, at least for the short term. We need to be allowed to do that.
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As if it wasn't abundantly clear what the election was about

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Absolutely absurd and as expected on cue
If this post is on the B&I forum, lighten up it's just money!

Disclaimer: I'm not that smart.
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