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jtraggie99
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SoupNazi2001 said:

Do you guys really think mask mandates are about the "science". Let me know how many mask mandates are in Democrat controlled areas vs Republican. There is an agenda here. I will hang up and listen.
What's the agenda? And I live in McKinney. I'm not required to wear a mask, but I do. So do my kids, their mom, and most people I know. Does it help? You can argue that all day I suppose, but it certainly does not hurt. So why not? What's the harm?
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03ki11erAG said:

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03ki11erAG said:

I'll never understand people who have no issues with government taking more and more of our individual liberties away in the name of safety.

There's nothing wrong with wearing a mask. I wore one the other day because I do feel like there is enough research now to justify it. That said, it's never more important than our first amendment right not to wear one. And don't get that confused with a businesses right to require one.

We're all adults here. If this flu scares you enough to give up your rights to wear what you pleases or more importantly require what you please in your own business then by all means stay home. Don't infringe on my choice because you think it's best.
Have you ever seen any of the archive clips from NBC5 in Dallas that they air from time to time? I think it was last year, they aired a clip from street interviews they did with people when seat belt laws went into affect in Texas. There were a lot of irate people who thought it was ridiculous and intrusive and there was no way they were going to wear a seat belt or go along with being told what to do. People can be quite irrational sometimes...


It is intrusive. It's not the states job to protect you from stupidity. Stop giving elected officials power.
How difficult is it to understand that it's not about protecting you, Thypoid Mary, it's about keeping you from spreading it to others.
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The mask mandate is about reducing the transmission of the virus and mask use to prevent the spread of the virus is backed by "science". I think the mask mandates in blue areas are because these areas typically have higher populations. Dallas does not have the resources to manage a large outbreak if one should occur.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

jtraggie99 said:

SoupNazi2001 said:

Do you guys really think mask mandates are about the "science". Let me know how many mask mandates are in Democrat controlled areas vs Republican. There is an agenda here. I will hang up and listen.
What's the agenda? And I live in McKinney. I'm not required to wear a mask, but I do. So do my kids, their mom, and most people I know. Does it help? You can argue that all day I suppose, but it certainly does not hurt. So why not? What's the harm?


That's great that you choose to do so. My family and I chooses not to. You don't think there is an agenda when mask mandates fall exactly on political lines. It is why you don't have one in McKinney.
Yes, it has become political. We have a lot of conservative people in Collin County that refuse to wear masks. I see it all around me. And the politicians are catering to a lot of their constituents.

But again, what's the agenda (in your mind) for requiring masks? Aside from the idea that they might slow the spread of a contagious virus.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

clobby said:

The mask mandate is about reducing the transmission of the virus and mask use to prevent the spread of the virus is backed by "science". I think the mask mandates in blue areas are because these areas typically have higher populations. Dallas does not have the resources to manage a large outbreak if one should occur.


That is not why. The big cities in TX have ample hospital capacity. The more rural counties have far less hospital capacity and would be more at risk. The science is not clear on masks especially cloth masks. Plus people don't wear them properly and constantly touch them which can cause them to infect themselves.

So, since the science is not clear, and it's possible they might help, and they definitely do not hurt anything, why not wear one?
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What libs don't want you to know is that wearing a mask increases the carbon dioxide you're breathing which can lead to other problems. And if you have a small amount of the virus in you, when you breathe in the mask and then keep breathing then you increase the amount of virus you've got. Grow a brain. I won't wear one and neither should anyone else, they DON'T WORK and they are actually BAD FOR YOU.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

jtraggie99 said:

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clobby said:

The mask mandate is about reducing the transmission of the virus and mask use to prevent the spread of the virus is backed by "science". I think the mask mandates in blue areas are because these areas typically have higher populations. Dallas does not have the resources to manage a large outbreak if one should occur.


That is not why. The big cities in TX have ample hospital capacity. The more rural counties have far less hospital capacity and would be more at risk. The science is not clear on masks especially cloth masks. Plus people don't wear them properly and constantly touch them which can cause them to infect themselves.

So, since the science is not clear, and it's possible they might help, and they definitely do not hurt anything, why not wear one?


Because there is not enough evidence that they help materially. They are also hot and uncomfortable and would increase my chances of getting virus particles on my hands by constantly adjusting my mask and touching my face. I choose to wash my hands instead. They also promote fear in a lot of people including my children.

Thanks for the response. I've been genuinely curious why people are so opposed to taking precautions. To each their own...
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Is it even a political issue at this point? Seems people across the spectrum are on board with this.

The only that aren't seem to be the brainlet meme "muh freedom" crowd.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

jtraggie99 said:

SoupNazi2001 said:

clobby said:

The mask mandate is about reducing the transmission of the virus and mask use to prevent the spread of the virus is backed by "science". I think the mask mandates in blue areas are because these areas typically have higher populations. Dallas does not have the resources to manage a large outbreak if one should occur.


That is not why. The big cities in TX have ample hospital capacity. The more rural counties have far less hospital capacity and would be more at risk. The science is not clear on masks especially cloth masks. Plus people don't wear them properly and constantly touch them which can cause them to infect themselves.

So, since the science is not clear, and it's possible they might help, and they definitely do not hurt anything, why not wear one?


Because there is not enough evidence that they help materially. They are also hot and uncomfortable and would increase my chances of getting virus particles on my hands by constantly adjusting my mask and touching my face. I choose to wash my hands instead. They also promote fear in a lot of people including my children.


If wearing an "uncomfortable" mask (boohoo) helps keep the economy open, that seems like reason enough to me, not to mention the possibility of saving lives. Granted probably not your life, so you probably don't care. When (if) we see spikes in numbers again (which we already are) and the state shuts down again, will you promise to not ***** about it, since you couldn't be bothered to wear a mask? I'm guessing not.
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City Dumme said:

What libs don't want you to know is that wearing a mask increases the carbon dioxide you're breathing which can lead to other problems. And if you have a small amount of the virus in you, when you breathe in the mask and then keep breathing then you increase the amount of virus you've got. Grow a brain. I won't wear one and neither should anyone else, they DON'T WORK and they are actually BAD FOR YOU.
Interesting. Do you have a legitimate source for this?
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SoupNazi2001 said:

jtraggie99 said:

SoupNazi2001 said:

clobby said:

The mask mandate is about reducing the transmission of the virus and mask use to prevent the spread of the virus is backed by "science". I think the mask mandates in blue areas are because these areas typically have higher populations. Dallas does not have the resources to manage a large outbreak if one should occur.


That is not why. The big cities in TX have ample hospital capacity. The more rural counties have far less hospital capacity and would be more at risk. The science is not clear on masks especially cloth masks. Plus people don't wear them properly and constantly touch them which can cause them to infect themselves.

So, since the science is not clear, and it's possible they might help, and they definitely do not hurt anything, why not wear one?


Because there is not enough evidence that they help materially. They are also hot and uncomfortable and would increase my chances of getting virus particles on my hands by constantly adjusting my mask and touching my face. I choose to wash my hands instead. They also promote fear in a lot of people including my children.
Dallas hospitals are overwhelmed on average flu years. Increasing capacity to hold sick patients is one of the easier resources to obtain. Supplies and staffing are the more limiting factors IMO. The science supports the proper use of masks to prevent the spread of airborne and droplet illnesses. Although cloth and surgical masks are not as effective as a N95 respirator, they do provide more protection than nothing at all.
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City Dumme said:

What libs don't want you to know is that wearing a mask increases the carbon dioxide you're breathing which can lead to other problems. And if you have a small amount of the virus in you, when you breathe in the mask and then keep breathing then you increase the amount of virus you've got. Grow a brain. I won't wear one and neither should anyone else, they DON'T WORK and they are actually BAD FOR YOU.
This is the funniest thing I have read about the virus. Thank you for the laugh!!!
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Methodist Dallas Medical Center said it has so many patients with flu-like symptoms that its staff is swamped and it is running out of beds.

As of Sunday night, all non-emergency patients are being re-routed to other hospitals. Methodist is also encouraging people with non-emergency issues to get help at an urgent care facility or go to their primary care doctor.
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Some North Texas hospitals are so overwhelmed with flu patients that they have run out of available rooms to admit them, medical officials say.

"It's a very serious situation," said J.R. Labbe, a spokeswoman for John Peter Smith Hospital in Fort Worth. "Our beds are full. It's pretty dramatic."
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At Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, waiting rooms turned into exam areas as a medical tent was built in order to deal with the surge of patients. A Houston doctor said local hospital beds were at capacity, telling flu sufferers they might be better off staying at home. Austin's emergency rooms have also seen an influx of flu patients.

But high emergency room volumes and filled hospital beds are "not uncommon" for this point during flu season, which runs from October to May, said Lara Anton of the Texas Department of State Health Services.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

Maybe we should mandate masks during flu season as well going forward.
There is a vaccine for the flu. Although it may not always be 100% effective, it certainly helps and dramatically decreases your chances of getting the flu. There is no such thing for this new virus yet.
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clobby
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If the mask mandate reduces deaths or hospitalizations by a fraction, it will be beneficial. If it doesn't, we are out a few bucks on mask and maybe some acne.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

No it doesn't work like that. Many places of business will suffer economic consequences because of this mask mandate. One example is gyms which are already struggling but will really struggle as many patrons were starting to work out but will stop if masks are required.


Business won't suffer if covid keeps rapidly increasing? People will soon stop leaving their homes chief.
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There is no point in arguing with SoupNazi. He's never wrong, and his opinion is backed up with nothing but facts. Any facts you present to dispute his opinions are deflected and/or fake news.

He is to the metroplex board as aTm2004 is to the Houston board.
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It does work like that. Businesses are going to experience consequences regardless of the mask mandate due to the pandemic and the shutdown. If anything, the masks provide a sense of security to rationalize going out. If we follow your plan of non-action and we continue to see a rise in infection rates and deaths, people are probably going to quit going to places like the gym.
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I'm not one for government unnecessarily meddling in private business, but this was the right decision.

Your discomfort is a small price to pay for the possibility of limiting the spread of the coronavirus. If you're too big of a ***** to understand that, you need psychiatric help.
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AggieBarstool said:

I'm not one for government unnecessarily meddling in private business, but this was the right decision.

Your discomfort is a small price to pay for the possibility of limiting the spread of the coronavirus. If you're too big of a ***** to understand that, you need psychiatric help.
This is where I am. I'm all for the minimum amount of government necessary. But government does have a role in promoting the general welfare. There's also the whole: your right to swing your fist stops at my nose thing, which seems to apply here.
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Denton county? Eww. I'd wear a mask there without corona
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Bones08 said:

But if there was an easy way for us to reduce the number of car deaths then we would do it, right?
seatbelts are required by law
 
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