Postal service rant.

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dallasiteinsa02
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They have fixed the problem locally. They are just holding stuff in Houston for 5 or 6 days.
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dallasiteinsa02 said:

They have fixed the problem locally. They are just holding stuff in Houston for 5 or 6 days.


I can guarantee you that the local branch is far from fixed. We are a large account for USPS and they are extremely short handed. I won't say that there are not bad carriers making things worse, but the majority that do care are overloaded 2 to 1 for the amount of local routes.
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Absolute zero reason for mail from this area to this area to go to Houston firstv
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I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.
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bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.
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iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
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I work out of my house. I have to have good mail.
Also, many things rely on mail that is personal. Wedding invites. Christmas cards. Etc.

So even if it doesn't affect you much, it is a problem that impacts our community.

Old people too. Sorry you don't care about them.
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bcstx06 said:

iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
Yes, you can use FedEx and UPS for a letter being sent but it's much more expensive. I sent a one page letter to San Antonio Thursday with two day delivery and the cost was $23.00. A first class letter would have cost 73 cents. I could have sent it ground rate and it would have been right at $9. Overnight was over $40.

If you are a small business that is sending multiple mailings every day and week, the difference in the mailing cost would be very significent to a small business just struggling by already.

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woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
Yes, you can use FedEx and UPS for a letter being sent but it's much more expensive. I sent a one page letter to San Antonio Thursday with two day delivery and the cost was $23.00. A first class letter would have cost 73 cents. I could have sent it ground rate and it would have been right at $9. Overnight was over $40.

If you are a small business that is sending multiple mailings every day and week, the difference in the mailing cost would be very significent to a small business just struggling by already.





We'll do something about it. Look up who runs the USPS and who put him in that position. There is your answer! USPS was bad before that guy but he drove it into the ground.
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Typewriters are gone and so is great postal service.

A phone call or an editorial in the newspaper or a story on the local news will not fix.

It is not zip code specific.
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bcstx06 said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
Yes, you can use FedEx and UPS for a letter being sent but it's much more expensive. I sent a one page letter to San Antonio Thursday with two day delivery and the cost was $23.00. A first class letter would have cost 73 cents. I could have sent it ground rate and it would have been right at $9. Overnight was over $40.

If you are a small business that is sending multiple mailings every day and week, the difference in the mailing cost would be very significent to a small business just struggling by already.





We'll do something about it. Look up who runs the USPS and who put him in that position. There is your answer! USPS was bad before that guy but he drove it into the ground.
No one is going to do much about it, regardless of Party in power. It's been a failure for decades.

No one want to really solve the problem by making some tough decisions or it would have been addressed over the years

We need to go to everyother day delivery which reduces the number of employees needed and extends the life of the vehicles.

We need to critically study the opportunities of closing many of the rural post offices and replace them with postal kioskes. Do we really need all the rural post offices and the employee, maintenance, and property lease cost?

In our area, most every rural homeowner either works in BCS, shops in BCS, goes for medical treatment pharmancies to BCS, etc.

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legalbird said:

Typewriters are gone and so is great postal service.

A phone call or an editorial in the newspaper or a story on the local news will not fix.

It is not zip code specific.

Is your argument "we're not dependent on paper any more for important stuff, so it's natural that we have crummy postal service now"? ... I agree it makes more sense to have a low cost postal service when you also have a high volume of important letters. But although letters are niche (and my typewriter is a fun hobby) we still have parcels.

We get emails now & expect things to be consistent. The problem today is not knowing if you package was actually delivered or if it got lost somewhere.

Customer expectation is broken.

Seems likely post office folks are pressured to mark it as "delivered" because the logistics flag is tied to their performance, even in situations where it makes zero sense. Do we need an act of Congress to require folks to be honest, or can we change the USPS:
  • Use actual delivery cost, especially when last leg costs are high
  • Use real-time maps to indicate "Things are taking longer to deliver here for a valid reason", to keep performance metrics from being insane

Have we come full circle? "By the mile" pricing was part of the original Ben Franklin USPS pricing idea. We switched to stamps because it was too much burden back in the day to tally up the actual miles. I'd argue we can do that for every parcel now, with stunning accuracy. It's OK to be realistic.

Most people don't live rural, and if you do I'm sorry but you're the exception. Hopefully you're OK to do your own thing and not depend on the Feds. Free market & performance metrics can rule the roost in the burbs, but remote places should be different, for example batch delivery or on/off schedules, like others have mentioned above.
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97degsNorth said:

legalbird said:

Typewriters are gone and so is great postal service.

A phone call or an editorial in the newspaper or a story on the local news will not fix.

It is not zip code specific.

Is your argument "we're not dependent on paper any more for important stuff, so it's natural that we have crummy postal service now"? ... I agree it makes more sense to have a low cost postal service when you also have a high volume of important letters. But although letters are niche (and my typewriter is a fun hobby) we still have parcels.

We get emails now & expect things to be consistent. The problem today is not knowing if you package was actually delivered or if it got lost somewhere.

Customer expectation is broken.

Seems likely post office folks are pressured to mark it as "delivered" because the logistics flag is tied to their performance, even in situations where it makes zero sense. Do we need an act of Congress to require folks to be honest, or can we change the USPS:
  • Use actual delivery cost, especially when last leg costs are high
  • Use real-time maps to indicate "Things are taking longer to deliver here for a valid reason", to keep performance metrics from being insane

Have we come full circle? "By the mile" pricing was part of the original Ben Franklin USPS pricing idea. We switched to stamps because it was too much burden back in the day to tally up the actual miles. I'd argue we can do that for every parcel now, with stunning accuracy. It's OK to be realistic.

Most people don't live rural, and if you do I'm sorry but you're the exception. Hopefully you're OK to do your own thing and not depend on the Feds. Free market & performance metrics can rule the roost in the burbs, but remote places should be different, for example batch delivery or on/off schedules, like others have mentioned above.

Yep, FedEx, UPS, and USPS packages and bulk mail are basically charging "by the mile" using location zip codes. It could done with first class stamped mail also.

Most everyone has internet access and could determine the value of the stamps they need to add to an envelope going anywhere in the country. For the few w/o internet access, the USPS could have a toll-free # to call the get the stamp cost.

BTW, my letter sent to lufkin 11 days ago still hasn't been delivered.



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woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
Yes, you can use FedEx and UPS for a letter being sent but it's much more expensive. I sent a one page letter to San Antonio Thursday with two day delivery and the cost was $23.00. A first class letter would have cost 73 cents. I could have sent it ground rate and it would have been right at $9. Overnight was over $40.

If you are a small business that is sending multiple mailings every day and week, the difference in the mailing cost would be very significent to a small business just struggling by already.





We'll do something about it. Look up who runs the USPS and who put him in that position. There is your answer! USPS was bad before that guy but he drove it into the ground.
No one is going to do much about it, regardless of Party in power. It's been a failure for decades.

No one want to really solve the problem by making some tough decisions or it would have been addressed over the years

We need to go to everyother day delivery which reduces the number of employees needed and extends the life of the vehicles.

We need to critically study the opportunities of closing many of the rural post offices and replace them with postal kioskes. Do we really need all the rural post offices and the employee, maintenance, and property lease cost?

In our area, most every rural homeowner either works in BCS, shops in BCS, goes for medical treatment pharmancies to BCS, etc.


You should read a little more about the current post master and what he's said in the past. Some believe his post assignment and the intent of it was to drive USPS into the ground (its under the executive branch and an easier place to start) and ultimately do away with it. Not saying USPS was a well oiled efficiency machine before, but if you have someone in charge of it that had zero experience and numerous conflicts of interest...you don't really have to wonder why its become a dumpster fire.
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BluHorseShu said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
Yes, you can use FedEx and UPS for a letter being sent but it's much more expensive. I sent a one page letter to San Antonio Thursday with two day delivery and the cost was $23.00. A first class letter would have cost 73 cents. I could have sent it ground rate and it would have been right at $9. Overnight was over $40.

If you are a small business that is sending multiple mailings every day and week, the difference in the mailing cost would be very significent to a small business just struggling by already.





We'll do something about it. Look up who runs the USPS and who put him in that position. There is your answer! USPS was bad before that guy but he drove it into the ground.
No one is going to do much about it, regardless of Party in power. It's been a failure for decades.

No one want to really solve the problem by making some tough decisions or it would have been addressed over the years

We need to go to everyother day delivery which reduces the number of employees needed and extends the life of the vehicles.

We need to critically study the opportunities of closing many of the rural post offices and replace them with postal kioskes. Do we really need all the rural post offices and the employee, maintenance, and property lease cost?

In our area, most every rural homeowner either works in BCS, shops in BCS, goes for medical treatment pharmancies to BCS, etc.


You should read a little more about the current post master and what he's said in the past. Some believe his post assignment and the intent of it was to drive USPS into the ground (its under the executive branch and an easier place to start) and ultimately do away with it. Not saying USPS was a well oiled efficiency machine before, but if you have someone in charge of it that had zero experience and numerous conflicts of interest...you don't really have to wonder why its become a dumpster fire.
Perhaps, but I had a mailorder business from about 1997 to 2010 before I went another direction and shipped out about 200 to 300 packages a month via the flat rate padded envelopes and small boxes and we were always having deliveries to Texas addresses and around the country that took a week to three weeks to be delivered.

I think the quality of service gets better at times and then crashes at times.

This stating item delivered when it wasn't should be illegal.
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BluHorseShu said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
Yes, you can use FedEx and UPS for a letter being sent but it's much more expensive. I sent a one page letter to San Antonio Thursday with two day delivery and the cost was $23.00. A first class letter would have cost 73 cents. I could have sent it ground rate and it would have been right at $9. Overnight was over $40.

If you are a small business that is sending multiple mailings every day and week, the difference in the mailing cost would be very significent to a small business just struggling by already.





We'll do something about it. Look up who runs the USPS and who put him in that position. There is your answer! USPS was bad before that guy but he drove it into the ground.
No one is going to do much about it, regardless of Party in power. It's been a failure for decades.

No one want to really solve the problem by making some tough decisions or it would have been addressed over the years

We need to go to everyother day delivery which reduces the number of employees needed and extends the life of the vehicles.

We need to critically study the opportunities of closing many of the rural post offices and replace them with postal kioskes. Do we really need all the rural post offices and the employee, maintenance, and property lease cost?

In our area, most every rural homeowner either works in BCS, shops in BCS, goes for medical treatment pharmancies to BCS, etc.


You should read a little more about the current post master and what he's said in the past. Some believe his post assignment and the intent of it was to drive USPS into the ground (its under the executive branch and an easier place to start) and ultimately do away with it. Not saying USPS was a well oiled efficiency machine before, but if you have someone in charge of it that had zero experience and numerous conflicts of interest...you don't really have to wonder why its become a dumpster fire.


Not sure I would call 35 years working and leading logistics companies "zero experience". Unless what you mean is zero experience as a government employee dealing with unionized government employees.
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BiochemAg97 said:

BluHorseShu said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
Yes, you can use FedEx and UPS for a letter being sent but it's much more expensive. I sent a one page letter to San Antonio Thursday with two day delivery and the cost was $23.00. A first class letter would have cost 73 cents. I could have sent it ground rate and it would have been right at $9. Overnight was over $40.

If you are a small business that is sending multiple mailings every day and week, the difference in the mailing cost would be very significent to a small business just struggling by already.





We'll do something about it. Look up who runs the USPS and who put him in that position. There is your answer! USPS was bad before that guy but he drove it into the ground.
No one is going to do much about it, regardless of Party in power. It's been a failure for decades.

No one want to really solve the problem by making some tough decisions or it would have been addressed over the years

We need to go to everyother day delivery which reduces the number of employees needed and extends the life of the vehicles.

We need to critically study the opportunities of closing many of the rural post offices and replace them with postal kioskes. Do we really need all the rural post offices and the employee, maintenance, and property lease cost?

In our area, most every rural homeowner either works in BCS, shops in BCS, goes for medical treatment pharmancies to BCS, etc.


You should read a little more about the current post master and what he's said in the past. Some believe his post assignment and the intent of it was to drive USPS into the ground (its under the executive branch and an easier place to start) and ultimately do away with it. Not saying USPS was a well oiled efficiency machine before, but if you have someone in charge of it that had zero experience and numerous conflicts of interest...you don't really have to wonder why its become a dumpster fire.


Not sure I would call 35 years working and leading logistics companies "zero experience". Unless what you mean is zero experience as a government employee dealing with unionized government employees.
I Think his remarks were directed at me, but I did use the USPS for about 13 years and sent out about 3,000 packages over those years. A little experience from the past.
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We ship around 100k packages a year and I can guarantee you that UPS and FedEx are not close to an option for every package. With their extreme pricing increases over the past few years, they are 2-3 times more expensive than USPS. Anyone who is not directly involved in shipping logistics probably has very little knowledge on how important USPS is to companies.
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BCStalk said:

We ship around 100k packages a year and I can guarantee you that UPS and FedEx are not close to an option for every package. With their extreme pricing increases over the past few years, they are 2-3 times more expensive than USPS. Anyone who is not directly involved in shipping logistics probably has very little knowledge on how important USPS is to companies.


I think that is one of the fundamental issues. They aren't/can't charge enough to provide a level of service that people expect. What is that saying… good, fast, cheap, pick two, but in this case you only get one.

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In today's economy, most people are opting for cheap and still expect fast. You are not going to get both.
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But if I'm paying for UPS, and they get it from AZ to Carrollton in 2 days but then turn it over to USPS and it then takes 4 days to get to Bryan, then 2 days of "out for delivery" then today "delivered yesterday" while tracking says "available for pickup"... Now who knows where it is...
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Here is a good one.

Expecting a package from Amazon today. Get a notification from Amazon of a delivery problem. Go check the tracking:
6:10 AM out for delivery Bryan tx
7:44 pm arrived at post office Bryan tx
7:59 pm no access to delivery location. College station tx.

Well, it is a Bryan address, so a bit of a challenge to deliver it is you are trying to deliver in College Station.

Then, trying to find where to report things to see if we can start reporting these BS "can't access delivery location". Suddenly, the tracking changes. 7:44 and 7:59 are replaced with 9:37 delivered in/at mailbox. Sure enough, it was there when I went to check just now.


None of the regular mail that was listed for delivery today was delivered, but they made sure the Amazon package was delivered even after marking it as can't deliver.
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I got my regular mail this morning. Just got notified like 15 minutes ago that my packages were delivered..
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Fleen said:

But if I'm paying for UPS, and they get it from AZ to Carrollton in 2 days but then turn it over to USPS and it then takes 4 days to get to Bryan, then 2 days of "out for delivery" then today "delivered yesterday" while tracking says "available for pickup"... Now who knows where it is...
There's some of the problem. Like any production operation, the throughput of the whole process of using FedEx/UPS is dependent on the weakest link which often is the last mile USPS bottleneck.

I try to anticipate needs and buy with, with free shipping, enough lead-time to incur the USPS issues.

100% of my monthly, quarterly, and annual bills are paid online either automatically or actively paid online in about a minute.

I go into a post office about twice a year and into a bank about once every five years.


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legalbird said:

Typewriters are gone and so is great postal service.

A phone call or an editorial in the newspaper or a story on the local news will not fix.

It is not zip code specific.
I hate to tell you, but I live in the Waco area. Your issues are ZIP code specific. In fact, if I order something shipped from in state, I'd prefer they use USPS, I'll get it faster than if they use UPS or FedEX, this is especially true if they use the service where it's picked up on UPS or FedEX, then delivered by USPS.

I once sent a birthday present to a friend who lives in the area. I wasn't going to see her until the weekend. I dropped off the package at the post office near my office, it was delivered to the recipient's house that afternoon.

If I see something show up on my Informed Delivery email this morning, it will be in my mailbox this afternoon.

There are huge issues with the Houston area distribution center that covers BCS and there may be additional issues in BCS, but this isn't happening everywhere.
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It isn't great throughout the country. But this area is really bad.

I mail a bunch of stuff every week. If possible, I drive to Austin or Waco to drop off mailings. That way the mail doesn't go through the Houston black hole on the way out. Nothing I can do about the return mailings.
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No mail delivery since Friday……it begins again after 5 days straight of delivery…..
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A package was supposed to be delivered to us yesterday. Informed Delivery showed it was delivered at 9:33 last night, but there was no package to be found.
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It will be delivered today
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Charpie said:

It will be delivered today
Yup, that's the classic - they were delivering mail until 9:00pm and finally had to call it a day and get home to their family, but they don't want to get dinged for not delivering packages so they mark them all as delivered and then just put them back on the truck for tomorrow.
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Its been 14 days and my letter still has arrived at the Lufkin address.

I could have walked it backwards to Lufkin in 14 days.



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BiochemAg97 said:

BluHorseShu said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

woodiewood said:

bcstx06 said:

iisanaggie said:

bcstx06 said:

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just different, but what are you all looking for in the mail all the time? I don't care for mail at all, and when I don't get any, I look at it as a win. Most bills are routed through a credit card and paid electronically. I don't need a physical bill, that's just more s**t I would have to shred. I prefer an email to a physical letter because I can easily press delete. Coupons and discounts are all done online and through apps now. The only thing I can see needing the post office for is a package of something I ordered, and that's usually just for things I can't pick up locally or when I don't feel like going to the store. I'm never desperate to get whatever it is. If it's a day or two late, it's not going to kill me. Maybe you all are from a different generation. If I were you all I would looking into switching my bills from physical letter mail to email to reduce what you are expecting in the mail to mostly package. Just my 2 cents.



Mail for businesses is a huge thing. Many receive medications through the mail now. Many items I purchase aren't even available locally. Mail delievery isn't just about bills and coupons and political ads. It is a service being paid for, and people expecting the service to be performed as promised is not an unreasonable expectation.


If you actually read what I said, I was addressing the old timers that rely on it for paper letters LOL! As far as business, there are other options UPS, FedEx, etc. yeah they cost more but you get what you pay for.
Yes, you can use FedEx and UPS for a letter being sent but it's much more expensive. I sent a one page letter to San Antonio Thursday with two day delivery and the cost was $23.00. A first class letter would have cost 73 cents. I could have sent it ground rate and it would have been right at $9. Overnight was over $40.

If you are a small business that is sending multiple mailings every day and week, the difference in the mailing cost would be very significent to a small business just struggling by already.





We'll do something about it. Look up who runs the USPS and who put him in that position. There is your answer! USPS was bad before that guy but he drove it into the ground.
No one is going to do much about it, regardless of Party in power. It's been a failure for decades.

No one want to really solve the problem by making some tough decisions or it would have been addressed over the years

We need to go to everyother day delivery which reduces the number of employees needed and extends the life of the vehicles.

We need to critically study the opportunities of closing many of the rural post offices and replace them with postal kioskes. Do we really need all the rural post offices and the employee, maintenance, and property lease cost?

In our area, most every rural homeowner either works in BCS, shops in BCS, goes for medical treatment pharmancies to BCS, etc.


You should read a little more about the current post master and what he's said in the past. Some believe his post assignment and the intent of it was to drive USPS into the ground (its under the executive branch and an easier place to start) and ultimately do away with it. Not saying USPS was a well oiled efficiency machine before, but if you have someone in charge of it that had zero experience and numerous conflicts of interest...you don't really have to wonder why its become a dumpster fire.


Not sure I would call 35 years working and leading logistics companies "zero experience". Unless what you mean is zero experience as a government employee dealing with unionized government employees.
Well, he does have experience enriching himself with the XPO contracts...so he does have that in common with politicians.
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My Monday and Tuesday mail showed up at 830am today. Wonder when Wednesday will….
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Tailgate88 said:

Charpie said:

It will be delivered today
Yup, that's the classic - they were delivering mail until 9:00pm and finally had to call it a day and get home to their family, but they don't want to get dinged for not delivering packages so they mark them all as delivered and then just put them back on the truck for tomorrow.


Showed up on Halloween - 2 days late.
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Ending the month with near perfect service re mail and Amazon deliveries. Maybe my house sits in some kind of weird magic circle.
 
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