KBTX story about children and the vaccine.

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Gone Camping
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5:22p, 8/24/21
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I used to have a lot of faith in KBTX. I've done multiple events with several of their anchors through the years and was impressed with their skills and professionalism in person. I expect that media tends to run a little to the left but the past few years seem to have spiraled out of control at KBTX. My morning routine was always to have channel 3 on in the background as I made breakfast and everyone got ready. For a while I would hear "Covid in context", roll my eyes and turn off the tv. No more. It's off now or I watch something entertaining. I'm tired of being frustrated with the overbearing pushing of agendas and skewing of graphs and charts to make things look as scary as possible.

Of course this discussion starts from the excess of Covid fear newscasting but I think an example from one of Shel's recent Facebook posts (August 10th I believe) sums up mine and so many other's frustrations very well. Shel was encouraging a discussion (that's fair) on climate change. He linked to an August 9th KBTX article with the following statement as the second line.

"It's just guaranteed that it's going to get worse," said report co-author Linda Mearns, a senior climate scientist at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research. "Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide."

I think we're all fed up with talking heads on tv feeding us reporting and articles that say "It's just guaranteed" or something similar. It's not guaranteed. There's science that someone can back on both sides of most of these arguments. Please spend more time reporting and less time trying to convince us, scare us, whatever. Give us the reports and we'll make our conclusions. Basic journalism, that's all we ask for. If you want to convince us one way or the other, write an editorial elsewhere, but the regular broadcast isn't the time for that.
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In reply to Gone Camping • 7:21p, 8/24/21
Well said.
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In reply to Gone Camping • 10:43p, 8/24/21
Your frustration is shared by many. We used to be news junkies but have completely stopped watching because it seems to try to tell us what to think instead of reporting the facts.
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11:22p, 8/24/21
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KBTX is wrong on this. Not because they did any journalism and investigated and got it wrong. No, they pay for stories from cbs and others and run them without further investigation because it would cut into their profits. They don't care if it's correct, they just want to fill the newscast.
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8:37p, 8/25/21
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For the sake of journalistic facts and reporting. Every covid report should include the following for each patient.

Age
Symptomatic Y/N
Preexisting conditions
Vaxxed Y/N

Most reports I see go something like this 37 new cases in the brazos valley total cases 250. 7 deaths this week age 49-79.

Be more specific please! We're all people symptomatic? Was only one person that died under 78yrs old? Did they have a major condition like heart issues or diabeties? We're they already in the hospital before they tested positive for covid. It's not hard to put this info out. They have it. And personally I would like to know what type of testing is used. False positives are real and abundant.

Ask the little league World Series team from needville,tx that their coach tested positive yet had no symptoms and they booted them from the tournament. He immediately took numerous tests once he was notified of the positive test. All subsequent tests came back negative. They were still booted from the tournament and a once in a lifetime experience for those kids. I'm sure kbtx covered this story

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MisterShipWreck
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10:37a, 8/27/21
Oops, wrong thread
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In reply to redball • 11:18a, 8/27/21
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redball said:
MisterShipWreck said:
Who the hell knows what is true anymore....
Science. Science knows.

I've just read just about every response to this thread and the trend appears to be many folks arguing against vaccines and looking for "evidence" don't understand basic statistics. The astonishment over the high number of breakthrough infections in Israel proves this. The story FlyRod shared explains exactly WHY "Why isn't there talk about this in America?" - because it's not news to anyone who understands how numbers work. As for KBTX, from what I've seen they do a good job reporting how a pandemic that has claimed millions of lives around the world is affecting the local area. I say we cut them a break, take science seriously, and stop jumping to conclusions based on a poor understanding of science and statistics.

Before y'all go losing your d@mn minds and desperately try to interpret facts in a way that fits your predefined narrative I encourage y'all to step back and examine the situation objectively. The massive effort to hide the truth some of you seem eager to buy into sounds a whole lot like a conspiracy theory and those nearly 100% of the time turn out to be bunk.

For a lighter perspective on conspiracy theories, please enjoy the wonderful Mitchell and Webb (a great British comedy duo) clip on the subject below.

Mitchell & Webb - Conspiracy Theories
anytime someone claims that "science" knows. I'm assuming they don't know how "science" works.

"science" is an ongoing process of discovery. this is why some feel they've been lied to consistently over the past 18 months.

"science" will continue to change. we will continue to be told one thing one month and another the next.

for the record: I am vaccinated and I do not think any of this is a hoax. I also agree with you that few seem to understand statistics.

that being said, examining a situation objectively can still lead you to be skeptical of apparent "science"

and as for kbtx, they recently spread a story about a couple with covid who lost their unborn baby at 37 weeks. This is a tragedy. I understand the couple wanting answers. I also think it's irresponsible for the story to be told the way it was. If this tragic case is 100% caused by covid, why are we not seeing this happen en masse to pregnant women with covid? what's that saying? oh ya, "correlation does not equal causation."
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In reply to Tookieclothespin • 12:52p, 8/27/21
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Every doctor I have discussed it with thinks that story was done in a irresponsible manner.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
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In reply to Tookieclothespin • 3:43p, 8/27/21
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought the stillborn story was irresponsible on KBTX's part. There is so little evidence to link covid to fetal demise that no dr in their right mind should go on record to make claims like the dr in this story did. I will say that he never quite commits that it was absolutely only due to covid like the headline suggests. Only that it could be a possibility. Well anything is possible and they barely touch on the fact that this couple has a very lengthy history of fertility issues. Did Kbtx explore her past infertility issues to see if this pregnancy loss was related to that? Nope. They got the headline they wanted. Nothing but fear propaganda.
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In reply to TaterTot_09 • 5:05p, 8/27/21
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And total exploitation of a tragic event. that's the part that makes me so sick.
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7:10p, 8/27/21
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KBTX is "knowingly" irresponsible. They will never correct their mistakes because to them they are not mistakes. They are pushing a one sided agenda, and anyone with the ability to think for themselves can see that. Critical thinking was literally the main objective that most majors at A&M teach. Where has that gone in this town?
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10:52p, 8/27/21
I originally posted this today, but took it down until I saw more proof that this was true... I don't want to sound like some conspiracy nut...

And, I was hesitant to post this over the past couple of days - as news of this issue has been talked about online at many places. It sounded too crazy to believe... I was waiting to see something in print from some news stories before I was willing to believe it.

If this is true or not true, where are the tv stories to tell us?

Basically - the word going around is that it appears that there are two versions of the Pfizer vaccine. The one that has been given up to now, under emergency authorization. And then the APPROVED version called: Comirnaty. The problem is that the current shot is still under emergency authorization - which shields the company from liability.

But, the Comirnaty labeled bottle does not enjoy that protection. The problem? You can't get Comirnaty. And, you won't be able to get it anytime soon.

So, same exact product, two different labels. 1 label is approved, the other label is still under emergency authorization.

Sounds crazy, right? I thought so myself when I first heard it. Then, today - I see this:

2 Things Mainstream Media Didn't Tell You About FDA's Approval of Pfizer Vaccine
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But there are several bizarre aspects to the FDA approval that will prove confusing to those not familiar with the pervasiveness of the FDA's regulatory capture, or the depths of the agency's cynicism.

First, the FDA acknowledges that while Pfizer has "insufficient stocks" of the newly licensed Comirnaty vaccine available, there is "a significant amount" of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine produced under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) still available for use.

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Second, the FDA pointed out that the licensed Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine and the existing, EUA Pfizer vaccine are "legally distinct," but proclaims that their differences do not "impact safety or effectiveness."

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EUA-approved COVID vaccines have an extraordinary liability shield under the 2005 Public Readiness and Preparedness Act. Vaccine manufacturers, distributors, providers and government planners are immune from liability. The only way an injured party can sue is if he or she can prove willful misconduct, and if the U.S. government has also brought an enforcement action against the party for willful misconduct. No such lawsuit has ever succeeded.

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At least for the moment, the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine has no liability shield. Vials of the branded product, which say "Comirnaty" on the label, are subject to the same product liability laws as other U.S. products.

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Americans, told that the Pfizer COVID vaccine is now licensed, will understandably assume COVID vaccine mandates are lawful. But only EUA-authorized vaccines, for which no one has any real liability, will be available during the next few weeks when many school mandate deadlines occur.

The FDA appears to be purposefully tricking American citizens into giving up their right to refuse an experimental product.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mainstream-media-fda-approval-pfizer-vaccine/


Thoughts? If this is true, it's crazy, right?

Why isn't anyone talking about this to tell us what is going on?
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10:57p, 8/27/21
And another story - if this is true, it is a huge deal...

There's Definitely Something Very Wrong with Pfizer-BioNTech's 'Full Authorization' Docs

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"It's deceitful," Lee claimed. "If the vial says Comirnaty- It's FDA approved. It the vial says Pfizer BioNtech- it's under EUA and they're not subject to liability. There's millions of doses to get rid of first."
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Yet if the next batch of vaccines being dispensed were being produced under the Cominarty label, then that would appear to reconcile the issue.

Except that isn't the case. Buried deep within the footnotes of the Pfizer-BioNTech documents is one footnote that puts into rather jolting perspective that the currently labeled vaccines are still under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

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Attorney Robert Barnes got to the heart of the matter in a post on Wednesday night: "There is no *available* FDA approved licensed vaccine," Barnes said. "Here's what is happening. If FDA approved & licensed COVID19 vaccine, it would have to revoke the EUA vaccines & subject the vaccine maker to more liability risk. So it only approved a future vaccine that isn't 'available'."

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"Did you fail to read the part of the FDA letter where it said the licensed vaccine isn't 'available' yet?" Barnes asked. "How is there ANY EUA vaccines when the law does not allow them if there is a licensed vaccine available?"

https://thekylebecker.substack.com/p/theres-definitely-something-very
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In reply to MisterShipWreck • 7:40a, 8/28/21
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It is true. I read the FDA letter directly from them. Once again another direct lie from our government and echoed by the media. If the vial for the shot you are taking does not say "Comirnaty" then it isn't FDA approved.

They say they are interchangeable and the "same" ingredients. If that was the case then why would you have to update the EUA for the Phizer BioNotech Covid 19 vaccine.

And if they are the same why is comirnaty only allowed for 16 yrs and older but the Pfizer is for 12yrs old and up.

And if the same why does comirnaty say you only need a booster shot if you have a "compromised immune system". But Pfizer bioNotech covid 19 vaccine allows boosters for everyone of age every 6-8 months.

And the fda stated that there isn't enough comirnaty on the market for everyone to take so you can interchange with the current Pfizer vaccine. If they are the same why would they even need to make that statement or change the name? We have hundreds of millions of excess Pfizer bionotech covid 19 vaccines on the market, but hardly any Of the comirnaty vaccine. But the fda says they are the same doesn't add up.

Pfizer bionotech vaccine is still protected under EUA with zero liability. So if you take it and have complications or die Pfizer cannot be sued. But if you take comirnaty Pfizer is legally held responsible. If you are going to take it and have held out this long then I would advise you to hedge your bet and only take comirnaty. At least your family can sue in the event that something happens.

My guess is we never see comirnaty roll out on a mass scale. Why would Pfizer, which is the most sued pharmicutal company in history (paying out over 4 Billion dollars in law suits) put themselves at risk for liability.

No other main stream media including KBTX will actually show you the fda statements and letters.
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8:10a, 8/28/21
Here is the FDA letter: https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

This is like the biggest hoodwink ever.... Wow.
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In reply to MisterShipWreck • 8:11a, 8/28/21
MisterShipWreck said:

And, I was hesitant to post this over the past couple of days - as news of this issue has been talked about online at many places. It sounded too crazy to believe... I was waiting to see something in print from some news stories before I was willing to believe it.

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Thoughts? If this is true, it's crazy, right?

Why isn't anyone talking about this to tell us what is going on?
"Online at many places."

The internet is the Wild Wild West and some of the many places one can stumble across have various agendas. Rather than take the time to explore the problems that issue has created for the world at large, I'll offer you my two cents, Lucy from Peanuts style: No one is talking about it because there is no there, there.


You have one piece from the *Children's Health Defense, a known anti-vaccination group which used to call itself the World Mercury Project and spent considerable time and effort promoting that vaccines cause autism among other things.

You have another piece from a former Fox writer who got suspended from his gig at the conservative Independent Journal Review for promoting a conspiracy theory and who touts his award winning journalism by mentioning awards for 'most page views and content'--in other words, 'likes' and shares instead of quality of content. When you've lost the IJR, you've likely lost your way and are trying to stay relevant on not on the dole (SUBSCRIBE FOR THE INFORMATION NO ONE ELSE IS TELLING YOU!!!!!!).

CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and the like are infotainment "news" and I pretty much ignore them too, but the other mainstream media is not likely to "tell us what is going on" because to give conspiracy theory type topics air time gives them validation and pushes them into the mainstream when they should remain on the fringes. Because that is what they are. If anything, it muddies the water for the independent investigative journalists who follow the story without an agenda other than the truth. Everyone from the lowly grifter peddling shingles made from cardboard to the National Enquirer Alien Specialist will tell you only they know the truth, but the internet has given them all a much bigger audience. Much more money from peddling falsehoods and misinformation because we all wanna believe. Fear porn is a 'both sides' issue I'm afraid.

(Also I'm curious now that Moderna has submitted their paperwork for full approval what will be the response.)

KBTX is a small market station, owned by a large media corp and really has no business reporting on that. They have enough problems as it is.


If you have questions regarding the safety and efficacy of a vaccine for yourself or your family, I urge you to speak with your physician.

If you want to continue going down this rabbit hole regarding Phizer it really has little to do with KBTX and local news any more.

If you don't want to get the vaccine, then don't, but again, why not talk it over with your medical personnel and see if they have any answers to your questions?



*One thing about the CHD that I do support is they are a watchdog for pesticide use as it relates to childrens' health and I can support that completely.
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9:30a, 8/28/21
Bluestar to Oogway! Shipwreck, for the love of God, Man, stop with the conspiracy theory sites.
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9:47a, 8/28/21
The misinformation and conspiracies Shipwreck tosses around are much more dangerous than any vaccine he's afraid of.
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10:06a, 8/28/21
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I'm here for you MisterShipWreck. We should hold our local media accountable for the information or non-information that they provide. Most people on here arguing against the information you provided are the same type of people that use the 1st topic in a google search for their talking points.
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10:26a, 8/28/21
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Yeah, Using Children's Health Defense as a source is dubious at best.
They have agenda that all vaccines are bad and cause autism.
they have had many lawsuits thrown out as having no merit in trying to blame vaccines as everything that is bad in the world.

I just don't understand why people want to believe the craziest conspiracy theories.
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In reply to 91_Aggie • 11:00a, 8/28/21
91_Aggie said:
Yeah, Using Children's Health Defense as a source is dubious at best.
They have agenda that all vaccines are bad and cause autism.
they have had many lawsuits thrown out as having no merit in trying to blame vaccines as everything that is bad in the world.

I just don't understand why people want to believe the craziest conspiracy theories.
Go read the FDA letter yourself. That's what it says:

https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

It's not a conspiracy theory.
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11:08a, 8/28/21
Second blue star for Oogway. Spot on post.
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11:10a, 8/28/21
If you think everything is on the up and up, watch this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
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In reply to MisterShipWreck • 12:10p, 8/28/21
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MisterShipWreck said:
If you think everything is on the up and up, watch this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
very trustworthy when X files theme is playing in background... come on, man!
and she starts with "This is the story FOX NEWS banned me from showing"

If you can't get your conspiracy theory on Fox news, then wow! It must be real, right?? lolzzzzzzzz
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In reply to 91_Aggie • 12:19p, 8/28/21
91_Aggie said:
MisterShipWreck said:
If you think everything is on the up and up, watch this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
very trustworthy when X files theme is playing in background... come on, man!
and she starts with "This is the story FOX NEWS banned me from showing"

If you can't get your conspiracy theory on Fox news, then wow! It must be real, right?? lolzzzzzzzz
Now you are changing the subject - She has audio of supervisors telling her what she can and cannot talk about... When she did this, it made the rounds on various news sites... She WAS fired - There was an entire story on her:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3OfOzSMvCRk1/

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-fox-26-reporter-releases-tape-of-corruption-censorship-fox-corp/

Interesting - you dismiss everything the ER doctor in Houston said, though..... How as he is getting questioned by reporters from all over the world, they all tell him they are not allowed to give specifics about his treatments for covid on the air in their stories....
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In reply to MisterShipWreck • 12:29p, 8/28/21
AG
MisterShipWreck said:
91_Aggie said:
MisterShipWreck said:
If you think everything is on the up and up, watch this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
very trustworthy when X files theme is playing in background... come on, man!
and she starts with "This is the story FOX NEWS banned me from showing"

If you can't get your conspiracy theory on Fox news, then wow! It must be real, right?? lolzzzzzzzz
Now you are changing the subject - She has audio of supervisors telling her what she can and cannot talk about... When she did this, it made the rounds on various news sites... She WAS fired - There was an entire story on her:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3OfOzSMvCRk1/

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-fox-26-reporter-releases-tape-of-corruption-censorship-fox-corp/

Interesting - you dismiss everything the ER doctor in Houston said, though..... How as he is getting questioned by reporters from all over the world, they all tell him they are not allowed to give specifics about his treatments for covid on the air in their stories....
Get more than 1 ER doctor to tell the story.
Get more than 1 banned fox reporter telling the story.

There's enough journalists and doctors in the world that if they found a true story, there'd be more than ONE of each.

Project Veritas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas

Bit chute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute

Dude. you aren't helping yourself.
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In reply to 91_Aggie • 12:32p, 8/28/21
91_Aggie said:
MisterShipWreck said:
91_Aggie said:
MisterShipWreck said:
If you think everything is on the up and up, watch this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
very trustworthy when X files theme is playing in background... come on, man!
and she starts with "This is the story FOX NEWS banned me from showing"

If you can't get your conspiracy theory on Fox news, then wow! It must be real, right?? lolzzzzzzzz
Now you are changing the subject - She has audio of supervisors telling her what she can and cannot talk about... When she did this, it made the rounds on various news sites... She WAS fired - There was an entire story on her:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3OfOzSMvCRk1/

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-fox-26-reporter-releases-tape-of-corruption-censorship-fox-corp/

Interesting - you dismiss everything the ER doctor in Houston said, though..... How as he is getting questioned by reporters from all over the world, they all tell him they are not allowed to give specifics about his treatments for covid on the air in their stories....
Get more than 1 ER doctor to tell the story.
Get more than 1 banned fox reporter telling the story.

There's enough journalists and doctors in the world that if they found a true story, there'd be more than ONE of each.

Project Veritas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas

Bit chute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute

Dude. you aren't helping yourself.

We are getting off topic, but I can post 10 stories from the inventor of wikipedia himself - he will state that the site has been taken over by partisan hacks, and that the site is not reliable. If that's your source, I'm sorry. I'd post the links, but then the mods will say we are off topic. But the guy was even interviewed on tv about it recently.

Bitchute is no different than Youtube. There are some wacky nuts on youtube. Do you disregard each and every video on Youtube because of that?
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In reply to MisterShipWreck • 12:35p, 8/28/21
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MisterShipWreck said:
91_Aggie said:
MisterShipWreck said:
91_Aggie said:
MisterShipWreck said:
If you think everything is on the up and up, watch this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
very trustworthy when X files theme is playing in background... come on, man!
and she starts with "This is the story FOX NEWS banned me from showing"

If you can't get your conspiracy theory on Fox news, then wow! It must be real, right?? lolzzzzzzzz
Now you are changing the subject - She has audio of supervisors telling her what she can and cannot talk about... When she did this, it made the rounds on various news sites... She WAS fired - There was an entire story on her:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3OfOzSMvCRk1/

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-fox-26-reporter-releases-tape-of-corruption-censorship-fox-corp/

Interesting - you dismiss everything the ER doctor in Houston said, though..... How as he is getting questioned by reporters from all over the world, they all tell him they are not allowed to give specifics about his treatments for covid on the air in their stories....
Get more than 1 ER doctor to tell the story.
Get more than 1 banned fox reporter telling the story.

There's enough journalists and doctors in the world that if they found a true story, there'd be more than ONE of each.

Project Veritas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas

Bit chute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute

Dude. you aren't helping yourself.

We are getting off topic, but I can post 10 stories from the inventor of wikipedia himself - he will state that the site has been taken over by partisan hacks, and that the site is not reliable. If that's your source, I'm sorry. I'd post the links, but then the mods will say we are off topic. But the guy was even interviewed on tv about it recently.

Bitchute is no different than Youtube. There are some wacky nuts on youtube. Do you disregard each and every video on Youtube because of that?

So everythign on the those wiki's are documented with their sources. I don't take Wikipedia at face value. but when you google both of those organizations, nothing good comes up at all for them. And yeah, I know your next conspiracy is "Google won't show you the true stuff"
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12:42p, 8/28/21
Dude. Just go read the FDA paperwork. I just gave the link. It says it there in black and white.
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12:47p, 8/28/21
And, that news story by that reporter (on that Bitchute link) had info that really helped save someone:
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12:49p, 8/28/21
AG
I've read the FDA letter. Pretty obvious to me folks seeing conspiracies here went in looking for them.
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In reply to 91_Aggie • 1:01p, 8/28/21
91_Aggie said:

Get more than 1 ER doctor to tell the story.
Get more than 1 banned fox reporter telling the story.

Another reporter blowing the whistle: https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-cbs-62-insider-april-moss-becomes-second-reporter-to-be-terminated/

And, a story that touches on her and Ivory Hecker: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/reporter-fired-refusing-mask-project-veritas

And another reporter:

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2:36p, 8/28/21
Is it physically possible for the size of a heart to double in 5 days? Serious question.
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In reply to jeffk • 2:51p, 8/28/21
jeffk said:
I've read the FDA letter. Pretty obvious to me folks seeing conspiracies here went in looking for them.
Apparently not - because there ARE two products listed in the paperwork from the FDA. Only 1 of them have been approved. The one you can't get.
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In reply to Bucketrunner • 2:59p, 8/28/21
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Bucketrunner said:
Is it physically possible for the size of a heart to double in 5 days? Serious question.


Yes, a quick search. It's called severe acute heart failure or severe acute heart problems. This can happen in a mater of days and enlarge the heart that much.
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