KBTX story about children and the vaccine.

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Tookieclothespin
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Using raw VAERS numbers to say the vaccine is killing large swaths of people is akin to calling a car-accident death a Covid death because the deceased tested positive. Remember that ridiculous data?

What I'm looking for is deaths or adverse reactions that are clearly linked the the vaccine. VAERS alone cannot tell us that. VAERS is just data from a vaccinated population to compare to background data from the general population.

There is a difference between acquiring a condition or dying after getting the vaccine and acquiring a condition or dying because of the vaccine. I think you know that, right?

But still, I agree the push for all kids to get the vaccine is not ok.
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MisterShipWreck
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Tookieclothespin said:

Using raw VAERS numbers to say the vaccine is killing large swaths of people is akin to calling a car-accident death a Covid death because the deceased tested positive. Remember that ridiculous data?

What I'm looking for is deaths or adverse reactions that are clearly linked the the vaccine. VAERS alone cannot tell us that. VAERS is just data from a vaccinated population to compare to background data from the general population.

There is a difference between acquiring a condition or dying after getting the vaccine and acquiring a condition or dying because of the vaccine. I think you know that, right?

But still, I agree the push for all kids to get the vaccine is not ok.

I understand that. But given the research that claims VAERs only catches about 1% of the true numbers - this is cause for concern no matter what. When taken with the reported #'s from Europe - it IS concerning.

Do I believe the #'s indicate that society is falling because of the shot? No. But it is worrying. As is the media blackout.
MisterShipWreck
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Saw this on another forum:

I am always skeptical of fringe stuff, but....

Once again - I am not a scientist. None of us are. We only know what we are told...

But this kind of stuff is worrisome, IF true.....


Guy on the video is:
Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH, FACC, FACP, FAHA, FASN, FNKF, FNLA, FCRSA
Professor of Medicine, Texas A & M College of Medicine, Baylor Dallas Campus
President, Cardiorenal Society of America
Editor-in-Chief, Cardiorenal Medicine
Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine
Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology

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Peter McCullough on VAERs studies and required vaccinations knowing death is possible - VIDEO
Peter gives good info despite his interviewer being avg, excellent video.

-2:24 What changed his mind on the vaccine
-3:19 threshold of death was high, 186 by Jan 22.

-3:45 If there was a monitoring board, would have shut it down in Feb.

-4:24 How did you realize deaths were related to the vaccine

-5:07 Two Analysis of the VAERs data - 86% of the deaths have no other explanation. Vaccine is the cause in the majority of cases.

-6:47 Never seen a situation where people are being coerced into a treatment that could be fatal

-7:33 Rose analysis on non-fatal reactions, attacks 4 organ systems.

-8:54 Myocarditis can be very serious

-12:06 d-dimer elevated in vaccine injury cases, indication of blood clots

-13:37 jab remorse, but not possible to reverse.
Rapier108
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It is inevitable a child without any underlying health issue would die from the virus, but 1 out of the ~330 children who have died from it is not a trend, just a sad statistic.

And it is still very possible the child had an undiagnosed condition such as a heart problem, but without an autopsy, no way to know for sure. They should conduct one, not only to see if this was the case, but if it was not, to maybe learn something about how the virus affects young children in the most severe cases.

And this isn't the first case of a child dying while infected with the virus where the media claimed the child died while having no underlying health issues. When it came out the child died because his mom put him in the bathtub, and the heat from it combined with his fever trigged a febrile seizure. The child passed out and drowned because his mom had left him alone in the tub.

And here is a link for that case.

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/more-details-released-on-7-year-old-georgia-boys-coronavirus-death/MNTHT4CKBJCRNDHPAIF7UHDWEM/

Without a doubt, he is still counted a coronavirus death, even though the virus did not cause it.

Edit: Removed a oddball link which I have no clue where it came from.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
jeffk
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Good context on the VAERS data.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/does-vaers-list-deaths-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines
MisterShipWreck
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jeffk said:

Good context on the VAERS data.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/does-vaers-list-deaths-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines

I have said that not every VAERS case means that the shot caused it. But c'mon. Over 6k here in America of reported deaths. And, over 13k in Europe. Even a fraction of that being true is a HUGE problem... Especially with hundreds of thousands of reports of serious issues.

Is ANYONE hearing ANY reports of this in the main stream media? Why?

I've been told that you have to swear that what you submit is true, when you make a VAERs report. Are all of those fake? Are ALL of those the result of something else, and not the shot? For a virus with a 99.8 survival rate for most healthy adults, we ALL need this shot?

And all our kids?

Remember in the 70s when around 50 people died from the swine flu vaccine, and the government put a stop to it because "it was just too dangerous"?

Combine that with this kind of info:

White House refuses to reveal extent of Covid among vaxxed population

This is what I am talking about. An amazing amount of hiding things, and the media doesn't do their job...
Oogway
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VAERS and its various flaws with respect to accuracy and the problems with people drawing conclusions from it has been discussed to a large extent over multiple years on the Politics and Health boards. I know I've done so in the past, specifically during the measles outbreak that occurred several years ago. So I'm not going to rehash that here. Neither am I going to attempt to convince you otherwise, but just know that using VAERS as evidence w/o the ability to interview surrounding claimants is not considered credible. On a related note, given that the push to vaccinate was concentrated in nursing homes and other vulnerable demographics, I'm not surprised that there would be fatalities surrounding the timeline because older populations are usually in nursing homes precisely because their health is not in prime condition.

With respect to your link, I saw the entire press conference as I've been watching those for many years. I would ask that people who like to 'do their own research' find original source material and watch the full event, otherwise context is missing, as it is in this case. While the media has an agenda that is wholly dependent upon: their audience (regardless of bias), their sponsors, and their owners, social media influencers (such as the account you posted) have their own agenda. I watched this happen throughout the last two presidencies prior to this one as social media became more prevalent, so its not surprising, but it does take some diligence on behalf of the viewer.

Currently, there is no COVID 19 vaccine available for children under age 12, nor is one mandated. Speculatively, I would imagine that down the road it would likely be approached like the flu shot--optional if one feels it necessary. Which is exactly the way it is for adults and the 12 plus age group now. What private entities/businesses choose to do with respect to employees is their own call.

Since this topic was specifically about the KBTX broadcast, I'll sign out here.
MisterShipWreck
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Oogway said:



With respect to your link, I saw the entire press conference as I've been watching those for many years. I would ask that people who like to 'do their own research' find original source material and watch the full event, otherwise context is missing, as it is in this case.
Here ya go - watch more of it. It doesn't change...



But you are right - this thread was about the lack of any investigation on the news, specifically KBTX. And, that was my only point in starting this thread....

Believe what you want. But no main network is telling people this stuff... Why is that? If it is true - tell us. If not true - tell us. Giving death #'s every day, and that is all, when the news starts everyday is just panic porn.
Rapier108
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Front and Center KBTX is at it again. They can't even get their stuff right.

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The Brazos County Health District reported Monday that COVID-19 patients make up 9.83 percent of local hospitals, which equates to 20 people. (That would be 9.83% for the entire "N" region.)

The state dashboard is reporting that in Region N, which Bryan and College Station falls under, there are three ICU beds available. (Pointless statistic designed to scare people into thinking the ICUs are about to be overwhelmed.)
Bryan, College Station hospitals seeing increase of COVID-19 patients (kbtx.com)

Also blaming it solely on people who haven't been vaccinated, even though data of other parts of the US and other countries shows that vaccinated people are making up a good chunk, and in some places more than half, of the new cases.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
JR Ewing
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happyinBCS
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Don't think Warren Buffett has anything to do with Gray Tv
Rapier108
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And they just have to keep at it.

COVID in Context: In Brazos County, July sees highest average hospitalization rate in 14 months (kbtx.com)
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
damiond
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Nobody should get experimental vaccines.

Natural immunity is the way to go. The way God intended.
KidDoc
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damiond said:


Nobody should get experimental vaccines.

Natural immunity is the way to go. The way God intended.
Ok if you get cancer or pneumonia just let nature take it's course.

Nature wants to kill you. We have tools through centuries of scientific advancement to try and stop that at least for a while.

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Ribbed Paultz
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How has this thread not been shifted to the Politics board yet??
Rapier108
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Despite the random off topic posts, it is talking about the local media outlet.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
damiond
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Nice straw man. Trusting time tested medical "tools" is WWWAAAAYYYY different than trusting an experimental vaccine rushed out the door, and that has killed people in some instances, to treat a disease equivalent to weak flu season.

God doesn't wants to kill me.
Tailgate88
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Where is the investigative journalism in 2021?
There is no such thing. "Journalists" are just propagandists these days. "News" organizations are wholly owned subsidiaries of the Democrat party.

Nothing that is reported in the mainstream media should be taken at face value. Mainstream "News" in 2021 (and for awhile now) is a mind-control tool used by leftists, nothing more.
Rapier108
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And KBTX just continues.

Said tonight that there are no more ICU beds available in B/CS which we all know is just bunk. We heard the same hysteria over and over last year. As we've all discussed many times, the number of ICU beds fluctuates every single day for a variety of reasons.

What annoys me the most is they always try to imply that it is all filled with coronavirus patients when it is 10%.

Then they trot out a bunch of doctors to tell everyone you better take the vaccine because if you don't, then you're causing the latest number of cases.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
MisterShipWreck
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Someone leaked the Pfizer's purchase agreement with the Albanian government... For the vaccine...

See section 5.5 (2nd to last sentence)

This sounds GREAT, right? Real healthy? They admit: "long term effects and efficacy of the vaccine is currently not known and that there may be adverse effects of the vaccine that are not currently known."

The contract FROM Pfizer, that countries must agree to to buy it.



And, the full link is here. You can download the ENTIRE PDF of the agreement:

http://ti-health.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Albania-Pfizer.pdf

Why isn't THAT on KBTX? Or, anywhere else on the main stream news? Why the secrets?
MiMi
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And KBTX just continues.
I haven't watched a KBTX news broadcast for the past couple of years. I'll skim the 'top stories' on their website once or twice a day and check the weather forecast, but that's all the traffic I'll give them. It's pathetic with their misinformation and bias. I will not give them any clicks.
FlyRod
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How has this thread not been shifted to the Politics board yet??


Sadly there's a reason. And the reason is truly sad and very disturbing.
Rapier108
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FlyRod said:

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How has this thread not been shifted to the Politics board yet??


Sadly there's a reason. And the reason is truly sad and very disturbing.
What the heck is your problem? This thread is to discuss KBTX and their reporting on the coronavirus.

If you don't like it, don't read it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Rapier108
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5+ minutes of nothing but coronavirus to start the news.

Biden babbling

BCHD press conference

Interviewing local business owners who want people to wear masks, because they think we're going back to lock down if we don't and they won't survive. (Hint: We will not go back into lock down.)

The TAMUS is spending money to push people around the state to get the vaccines.

Edit: Then another 2+ minutes on kids getting it at camp (they are at ZERO risk unless they have serious health issues) and how schools need masks and constant testing.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
FlyRod
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KBTX reporting has been just fine. Thumbs up to our local reporters and journalists covering the pandemic. Not an easy job, and always open to knee jerk criticism.

If someone doesn't like it, they can simply not watch or follow the KBTX app.

I don't understand the hysteria about KBTX "fearmongering" when they are just reporting data. Maybe the station has become some kind of weird Covid Rorschach test for people.
Rockdoc
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KBTX coverage sucks. Fear porn on the menu every night.
MisterShipWreck
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Someone on another forum posted this.

A 9 hour long CDC video from October 2020:



"At the 2:33:40 mark, a slide flashes for less than one second. Anyone who is not paying attention would miss it."

This is what the slide shows:

(You aren't seeing this being discussed on the news... Why?)


FlyRod
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Because this is the case with virtually all vaccines. And the key word in the slide is "possible."

Think of how many, many medicine ads you've seen with the rapid voice over at the end: "May cause seizures, hallucinations, blood clots, delusions of grandeur, claims to the throne of the Holy Roman Empire. Please consult your doctor."

I got over vaccine phobia during numerous trips to parts of the world raging with terrible infectious diseases. Diseases the vaccines prevented or minimized. Side effects from them? Yes, at first, just like with the Covid ones.

MisterShipWreck
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Well, go look at the VAERs reports. And, the European numbers, broken down by category of injury. It's not good...
Rapier108
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We can discuss vaccines on F16 or F84.

Well, some people can on F84. I'd get banned if I post there again.

Can we stay on the topic of the failure of our local media in reporting facts?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
MiMi
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Adverse events following immunization that are reported to VAERS does not confirm causality. The adverse event could just be temporally associated with the vaccination.
MisterShipWreck
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MiMi said:

Adverse events following immunization that are reported to VAERS does not confirm causality. The adverse event could just be temporally associated with the vaccination.
I understand that. I totally do... But it's hard to wipe away thousands of reported deaths and hundreds of thousands of reported adverse effects sent to VAERs... And, over 12,000 reported deaths and over 1 million reports of adverse effects in Europe.. SOME of them are going to be real. I mean, c'mon....,

The European numbers even have it broken down by symptom. - I posted this information on page 1 of this thread.

That sheer volume of numbers doesn't just wash away as some other unexplained event. Spin it however you like.

Yes, it is hard to believe, and concerning at the same time. So, why doesn't the tv news do a story on this to explain it to us? You'd need MANY reports, but get started... Instead, we get crickets... That is what we are getting now...

I've said it before... explain it to the public. But that's not happening...

And, why is that?
Rapier108
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Their story tonight about how pregnant women should get vaccinated and "listen to the experts who say it is safe" was irresponsible.

There is a reason we don't test on pregnant women, at least not until there is a massive amount of evidence that the drug or vaccine is very safe. No one ever wants to have another Thalidomide.

I was surprised they talked about RSV and how it is running amok lately.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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It was a good story. You are wrong about pregnant women. You can't do the studies because of plaintiff attorneys. Not thalidomide or anything else. It's sad. Pregnant women get penalized because they are different - thousands of pregnant women get insufficient or substandard care annually because doctors are afraid to treat the mother
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FlyRod
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/us/baton-rouge-childrens-hospital-surge/index.html

Perhaps this is a fluke. Perhaps it doesn't mean, per KBTX, that children need to be vaccinated.

But children do get sick and apparently require hospitalization.
 
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