My concerns are Joe citizen calling in neighbors or whoever they see not conforming to Joe Citizen's perceptions of lockdown/ shelter in place.
Yep, because Joe Citizen dones't even know what is going on.Psychag said:
My concerns are Joe citizen calling in neighbors or whoever they see not conforming to Joe Citizen's perceptions of lockdown/ shelter in place.
agreed - they think they can't be held accountable for going to the extreme on shutdowns/ lockdowns/ cancellations/ all online classes/ etc.Leonidas said:
Typical politicians.....make policy with incomplete information. Snowflake population ready to panic despite lack of said data. Perfect storm.
Carnwellag2 said:
-should givernment employees (professors. administrators. teachers/ city/county employees) stop drawing a paycheck to mirror the private sector? seems like decisions are easy when your livelihood isn't effected.
then why did they close and go remoteGa said:
The CDC (i.e. scientists and doctors) never even recommended that schools in places like Texas with no outbreak close down and go remote.
The first sentence of the order shutting the school doors doesn't usually reference a CDC recommendation but it begins with "out of an abundance of caution".Carnwellag2 said:then why did they close and go remoteGa said:
The CDC (i.e. scientists and doctors) never even recommended that schools in places like Texas with no outbreak close down and go remote.
I know several teachers in B/CS and other communities and NONE of the ones that talk to are doing that. They are figuring out ways using Khan Academy and other programs to formulate an entirely new way of teaching their students when they are given a green light. From what it sounds like, they are communicating with each other on a regular basis in order to share ideas.Quote:
get that teachers didn't have a say in how all of this went down, but it's ridiculous to think that we, as working parents, can just absorb another full time role while the teachers are just chilling at home monitoring FB and checking a few boxes here and there to keep up with who is participating and who isn't, all while retaining their full rate of pay because it comes from taxes, which don't stop.
Rapier108 said:
The mayors are blaming this mostly on the college students and other young people for the spread.
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Stupe said:I know several teachers in B/CS and other communities and NONE of the ones that talk to are doing that. They are figuring out ways using Khan Academy and other programs to formulate an entirely new way of teaching their students when they are given a green light. From what it sounds like, they are communicating with each other on a regular basis in order to share ideas.Quote:
get that teachers didn't have a say in how all of this went down, but it's ridiculous to think that we, as working parents, can just absorb another full time role while the teachers are just chilling at home monitoring FB and checking a few boxes here and there to keep up with who is participating and who isn't, all while retaining their full rate of pay because it comes from taxes, which don't stop.
They are also highly stressed because they are worried about their students and the long-term effect this is going to have on them. Especially on the juniors and seniors.
I realize that not all of them out there are putting forth that effort, but unless you have first-hand knowledge that most teachers are doing what you're insinuating, that is a very ignorant an insulting comment.
Edit: Neither I nor my wife are teachers, but I'm getting sick of people...not just on here...bashing these people when they are caught up in the whirlwind like the rest of us.
It's baseless and ignorant.
Depends on how one defines "lock down."88planoAg said:
What does 'total lockdown' mean?
I don't think anywhere in the US has come close to China type lockdown. I HATE that term, it is overused, vague and creates fear and panic. (I'm not directing it at you). So I always ask the question what is a lockdown in any of these discussions.Rapier108 said:Depends on how one defines "lock down."88planoAg said:
What does 'total lockdown' mean?
If it is Italy style, then the only things open to the public would be grocery stores, pharmacies, and medical providers/hospitals.
If it is "Wuhan Style" then virtually nothing would be open, or access to grocery stores would be highly regulated to the point where you would be allowed to shop 1 day a week, and only for a specific time during that day, if they even left the stores open.
Doing a "Wuhan Style" lock down would basically be martial law, and we'd probably see riots.
When I was an undergrad, I would have been at Skaggs doing the same thing! Now that I'm older and wiser, I had the foresight to acquire such provisions before the shelter in place order.Aggie said:Rapier108 said:
The mayors are blaming this mostly on the college students and other young people for the spread.
They are exactly right
Was are HEB yesterday ( Saturday) and several groups of college age kids buying ton of beer/ alcoholic drinks talking about " corona parties"
Your argument is not with the teachers because we all know they didn't choose this. It's also a bad side of the argument to be on. By in large, we appreciate our teachers around here and the state of normal affairs is that they work long hours, have to sometimes/often dip into their own pockets for school supplies, and should be paid more. Now we're in a weird crisis situation, the teachers have had to stop doing what they normally do as a result of other people's decisions, and now some of them are enjoying a little slack time as the situation allows and some think it's right to come down on them.Gangster Octopus said:
Baseless? You mean other than the fact that my kid's teachers and my friends who are teachers aren't putting in near the time that they do when things are normal? Daily FB updates to their class pages of "lol enjoying the sunshine," "water day in the pool," and "bath day for the farm animals" solidify my experiences. A buddy is a teacher and has spent more time on the lake lately because there's nothing he can do from home. White knight all you want, but when he says things like "I hope no one wakes up and realizes what a joke this all is because it'd suck if they cut off the paychecks," there's obviously less work getting done than normal. You want to argue that things are more stressful at times because of all of the uncertainty, I'll give you that. But to act like it's an 8-10 hour grind now that everyone is stuck at home is laughable.
I get that there are juniors and seniors in high school that are getting the shaft, and that sucks for them. What I'm talking about, though, is elementary school. We just got a notification that all assignments are due by midnight tonight. That's crap, especially when they just email out a bunch of worksheets and check out. We've offered our personal Zoom account (with enough spaces to accommodate multiple classes) and got a "thanks but no thanks" in return. I get that not everyone has Internet, but for those that do, why not spend an hour or two teaching on Zoom and helping go over assignments? If the concern is finding a way to teach, there are extremely easy ways to do that that aren't being utilized.
An extension was already coming.nthomas99 said:
Get comfy folks! The President just extended the nationwide social distancing guidelines until April 30. Brazos County shelter in place extension in 3...2...1...