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https://www.atf.gov/media/30961/download?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAcGRvZgNzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA80Mzc2MjYzMTY5NzM3ODgAAR4_fkzJBKRqjgVLPsyjNgtjIqgFWOvZK0E9Z7S1Eejt6JqtYfiLtrNIvKie8w_aem_bggKnNqazQEfMrknot--iA

No Form1 or Form4 required for SBR, SBS, Suppressors or AOWs for anyone.

Eta: on the federal level.

Dumb state laws may vary
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"Although the district court's injunction applies only to plaintiffs and certain other specified
persons, the Department has determined to exercise its enforcement discretion to create greater
uniformity, consistent with the Attorney General's statement today. Consequently, effective
October 9, 2026, ATF will no longer require individuals to seek ATF approval under the NFA
before making or transferring short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, silencers, and "any
other weapon" as defined in 26 U.S.C. 5845(e). ATF will also no longer require such items
to be registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.
These policies apply
uniformly to anyone otherwise subject to these requirements, not just to the plaintiffs in the
litigation."
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So I can now slap my SBR upper on any lower I want? Color me shocked.
JLN90
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When will the dealers start following this? Can I go today and buy an SBR in Texas with no NFA registration?
Average Joe
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I hope manufacturers start increasing production and dropping price.
TX_COWDOC
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Everyone I talk to - including manufacturers- have been a little gun shy on these changes. Today's message from ATF puts that to bed.
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BenderRodriguez said:

Dumb state laws may vary

E.g., Georgia.
TX_COWDOC
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FAQs worth the read.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/update-to-nfa-transfer-guidance
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JLN90 said:

When will the dealers start following this? Can I go today and buy an SBR in Texas with no NFA registration?

Mine already has.
The Sun
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My only remaining question is, can I dispose of my NFA binder now?
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Can't wait to see some formerly SBSs hit the market. Went ahead and ordered an FBI length UZI barrel.
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So I can now, as an individual, sell some of my extra silencers to other individuals?
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^ interested
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So do I need a trust to get a suppressor?

That has been what was holding me back.
El Chupacabra
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Off to Scheels...who just happens to be having sales on silencers.
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The future risk section of the FAQ is concerning.
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El Chupacabra said:

Off to Scheels...who just happens to be having sales on silencers.

Thank you kind sir.

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BSD said:

So I can now, as an individual, sell some of my extra silencers to other individuals?
not if it was form 4 originally you'll have to still transfer that. but at zero cost
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El Chupacabra said:

Off to Scheels...who just happens to be having sales on silencers.
let us know how you made out
tamc93
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So a trust is no longer needed, but do I legally need to transfer the items from my trust back to myself as an individual if I want to get rid of the trust?

Any benefits to keeping the trust?
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BSD said:

So I can now, as an individual, sell some of my extra silencers to other individuals?

Interested. Need to suppress a 6.5Grendel AR
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tamc93 said:


Any benefits to keeping the trust?


Democrats
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I had that as my primary reason to want to keep it, but was curious of other benefits that I am not seeing right now.
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Yes- in my (attorney's) opinion - you should put your firearms in a trust so that they are not subject to public record probate upon your death.
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El Chupacabra said:

Off to Scheels...who just happens to be having sales on silencers.

Thanks for the post. One ahead on 183 as I sit in traffic. The Austin Scheels must be new.
Gunny456
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This.
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Mas89 said:

El Chupacabra said:

Off to Scheels...who just happens to be having sales on silencers.

Thanks for the post. One ahead on 183 as I sit in traffic. The Austin Scheels must be new.

Correct. The Cedar Park one opened up a few weeks ago.
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How do you "put them in a trust"?

There's no ownership records for 99% of my firearms.

What's to say that the trust I have doesn't already own them?

tamc93
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Great point. I probably need to update mine to include everything I own.
nealan
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Feels like Christmas morning !
El Chupacabra
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Mas89 said:

El Chupacabra said:

Off to Scheels...who just happens to be having sales on silencers.

Thanks for the post. One ahead on 183 as I sit in traffic. The Austin Scheels must be new.


Looks like they're not on sale, but giving $100 or $150 gift cards with a purchase.
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In the Schedule A section of the trust you list the assets owned by the trust.
El Chupacabra
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Scheels (Montana) is still requiring form 4 due to state constitution.

Said things could change once they get more clarification, but anything purchased this weekend will require form 4.
 
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